Opinions Please...

[JR]

Started writing to a lady in Pitr. We've had 22 emails back and forth, eleven each way. I send her a first email (canned but customized) telling a bit about myself and asking a few questions. This is the response I got:

hello dear
thank you for your letetsr
you are very interesting to know u better
you can ask me what you want to know of me i tell you
i am at work now little bizu
thinking of you
kisssssssss

In all of the eleven emails she has sent to me not once has she addressed me by name. Most of her responses are 1 1/2 sentences in length and sound something like this:

you have beautiful daughter. when are you coming.....

We have spoken on the phone 4 times and in each she asks "When are you coming?" During the first conversation she mentions that she has three girlfriends married to American men and living in Los Angeles, (I'm in LA, she knows this)))). The last time I called her on the phone I said, "Hi Yulia, this is Joe." During the conversation she calls me Micheal three times, the third time I ask her to repeat what she just said. She does so without using a name and I point out that I am not Micheal, I am Joe. She then begins to tell me that she is not writing to any other men but me. I explain to her that I realize an attractive (she is SMOKING hot) woman will have many men writing, calling and visiting her and it does not bother me. I expect it to be this way and perhaps she even dates local men.

She informs me she is going to Dubai or Thailand and invites me to meet her there. I ask which it is and she says she will know by tomorrow. Tomorrow comes and I get an email:

hello dear
how are u ?
you know i think to going in tailand for 10 days
maybe u like to come to meet ?

Twice, in emails I have asked to be able to contact her friends in LA. My reasoning is that if I know them, I know her. And the reverse works also. I have asked many pointed questions and mostly recieved no or glancing answers. Questions regarding minimum requirements of lifestyle, etc.

Now a ten day trip in the pants of a very beautiful, sexy woman (even though she's a complete stranger) in Thailand sounds like just what the doctor ordered, it is not what I am looking for. No...that's not completely true LOLOLOL!!! But I am looking for more. It is the more part that isn't there. I have this feeling that as soon as I meet her this is what I'm going to start hearing:

visa

Visa

VISA

VISA!

VISA!!!

VISA!!!

She hasn't asked me a single question about my life, work, family, etc. etc. et al, ad nausem....

My gut tells me she will hop onto the first mule to Los Angeles. I hear a train whistle blowing in the distance, I look down at my feet and see a big, bold X

Does anybody else see the yet to occur train wreck this path leads to?

[Shostakovich]

To depart soon to Thailand and then to immerse in sexual dalliance?   "In youth and beauty wisdom is rare", but such is our world.  Very well then.

But, sir, you ask the wrong question; Try:

'Does anybody not see the train wreck this path leads to?'

[IAmZon]

In my experience most very hot and eligible women have many choices.  The promise of a US VISA is not what it once may have been.  However, I have also found that very hot and eligible women explore many possibilities and are subsequently hardened.  These women's recent histories and intentions often do not match the pretty pictures and promising email exchanges - and general steriotypes of AM who desire to meet them.

Do you feel like vacationing to Thailand?  How could it be a bad thing ..

You are searching for a diamond in the rough.  It is more likely you will find the rough than the diamond ... but without trying one never knows.

[Faux Pas]

You are a single able-bodied man aren't you? Go to Thailand. She's not taking you serious. Apparently she has enough keyboard Romeos and whatever game you've tossed out thus far, she ain't buying. Chances are great she is communicating with several and just as great that she isn't as hot as her pics. Sounds to me that so far, she's outplayed you 

[Lily]

JollyRats,

To me her communication style looks like not the best skill she might have in her life. Perhaps she is not good at writing at all. There are however people who are bad at this but in real life they are just totally normal and even interesting. Meet her. Otherwise you never know.

JR, your picture would be more clear if we learn something about her as person. How does she earn her daily bread? Any profession? Hobbys, interests? Education? What does her lifestyle look like? What do her parents do?

As far as her real feelings to you, we never know. Lack of genuine interest to JR? May be but not necessarily. Confusing names? Big problem so far. Eventually she might want to learn from Zsa Zsa Gabor calling everyone 'darling' She may take all this online dating thing somehow less than serious, and may also see the men in general as one class of nameless, faceless species who come and go and spoil her with attention and other nice things meanwhile. Just her character, but definitely not the best one. 

OTOH she may belong to the people who believe in online dating only when an eye-to-eye meeting occurs. This may be the reason why she talks about meeting all the time, and why she does not invest a lot in writing to you, but of her time and of her epistolary efforts.

Last but not least, sorry to say, the person with the described manner of communication may just be plainly and incurably stupid.

What a pity. Such a smoking hot woman, and such a bleak creature on her inside.

P.S. do you really say it in America 'this is what a doctor ordered'?

[GQBlues]

Opinion?

Women this much trouble is never worth the chase. BUT...

If you find yourself still contemplating this scenario by the 23rd of this month and would like to surround yourself with real live devushkayas in your home city, then allow me to serve up this nice, maybe promising, option for you. Dancing shoes optional, Aunt Mary not allowed.

Maybe you can even have her friends/hubbies sign on and show up and get the gist on this woman from those who are really in the know...

[UTRO]

Or maybe she's answering your 'light' sarcasm with her own JR. Maybe it's her who's on to you and not visa versa?!
Could be you two really are a match!

[ECOCKS]

Lily:

"Just what the doctor ordered" is a common saying when something happens or turns out in a favorable way.

[Jumper]

JR- you've spoken to her on the phone seperate 4 times,,

honestly you should have the answers , not "us"??
but it seems the phone conversations wern't any deeper than the emails..???

if they were decent convo's you wouldn't be here posting any questions?  
you'd be buying tickets to go see her?

granted i' m picky, but with those  emails ,i wouldn't be even slightly  interested in meeting her no matter how hot she is..   likely  a huge waste of time,  unless you just want to see Thailand.. for some fun.

I woman with no english abilty at all, usually writes much more interesting letters than those..

Shows no personality or effort at all...

"hey joe, fred, whatever your name is, you want to go on vacation? ok.."

i do agree with Lily,that if she is that "hot" maybe she just may be of  a personality, that doesnt  care enough to exert
any effort, you will or you wont go, she doesn't care because someone else would go to Thailand with her anyway..

if you have the time and dough to waste? I guess why not?

[Ludmila]

JR,

 All those 11 emails from both of you mean nothing so far.

1. You haven't learnt anything  about her worth knowing so far.

2. Those emails are not serious.

3. She is corresponding with many ( it is OK).

4 She knows  her main forte is her looks ( if she had a lot to say, she would have).

5. Therefore, she wants you  to "come over and look at you". She is treating you as an errand boy so far. She doesn't care whether you come over or not : she may have invited a couple of other volunteers, who have too much time on their hands, and don't mind to part with a couple of thousands of dollars.

6. She is sending you a " come over- I will look at you- and if I don't like you-- be at ease" message

It is obvious some body is financing this trip. You will be a suitable back up for her ( if it doesn't work out with the guy who paid for it). A " smart", elaborate ( non obliging) plan.

7. She may be a prostitute .
 
You haven't either talked on the phone or seen her on skype.

 It will be a  meeting of complete strangers, one of whom may turn out " smarter" and "more experienced in taking advantage of men"  than you think.

 What happened to the girl from Tashkent, JR?

[Gator]

Joe,

Perhaps she is just fishing for someone to buy her a vacation in Thailand.  Her boney ass is probably cold and she wants a holiday in the sun.  While she indicates she will pay her own way, perhaps at the last moment after you are hooked she will need help.

Aren't there more fish in the sea?

[greg2654]

7. She may be a prostitute .

This was my impression also. Save your money and hit the eject button on this one.

[RussianWind]

hello dear
thank you for your letetsr
you are very interesting to know u better
you can ask me what you want to know of me i tell you
i am at work now little bizu
thinking of you
kisssssssss

She must be really smoking hot to compensate a lack of intellect and still keep you interested. Is it your usual catch?

[Jumper]

Ludmila-
 JR said they did speak on the phone?
but i certainly agree with all your points.



JR-
I wanted to add - 
I didn't notice this was in the ask the RW section,, sorry! 
 

but  i don't think you will hear visa visa visa,
i think while there with her, you will hear :  visa, mastercard, Amex ,


or maybe ,,,,even western union..the day before the flight.


Seriously you must get better "just  introduction"  letters than this i'm sure??
and from some equally "hot" women..

So i just can't imagine why you'd be interested in this one.
you mentioned "looks" but she's not the only *hot chick* in the FSU.. so what does she have?

the local RW just wasn't that good looking, or was beyond your maximum  age threshold? what?
 come clean !!
because somethings up if you'd consider this " a possibility" at this point !
and it sure isn't a simple thirst for adventure..

[myrddin]

Oops, just noticed this was questions to RW, too, but anyway I'm throwing in a couple kopecks

While a 10-day romp through Thailand with a hotkova sounds certainly has its appeal (assuming this isn't outright scam), you said you are looking for more.  From your description of brief, distracted communication, it's hard to believe there's any intellectual or emotional appeal.

BTW, I don't think it's a train wreck unless you actually board for the ride

[Rutherford]

Joe,

Perhaps she is just fishing for someone to buy her a vacation in Thailand.  Her boney ass is probably cold and she wants a holiday in the sun.  While she indicates she will pay her own way, perhaps at the last moment after you are hooked she will need help.

Aren't there more fish in the sea?

Inclined  to agree with this quote and other responses.

My question is , why are you asking for opinions  after only  4  phone and 11 email  contacts  , besides , the obvious look obvious to me .

A  real prospect  would want you to  come to visit her  , or at least meet her in a near by city  .  I would not have it any other way .


RR

[Shadow]

If you want to be with a hot woman in Thailand you do not need to meet a dating contact, thugh you should be sure to check the 'goods' for having more balls as advertised.

As for this woman, clearly she is only interested in meeting you. I had a similar case once through ICQ, and let her go her own way. She later mentioned proudlyy that she got married and went to Ireland.

If you wish to meet her, St Piter is not the worst place, and the cold will require extra warming. If you feel uncomfortable meeting a woman who seems not to care if you are a homicidal maniac or a politician in your daily life, there are plenty other women who will line up to replace her.

[JR]

A coworker went to Bangkok for business and while at a restaurant a very attractive young woman comes and sits next to him and starts making small talk. He gets excited, thinking he's getting somewhere when she leans over and whispers in his ear "I boy-girl." LOL.

Thanks guys...only two reasons for entertaining the thought of going. Tired of writing letters and the little brain was talking. All I know about her is that she has three girl friends married to Americans and she wants one child. Not much to base a relationship on.

I just wanted to confirm what I was thinking. I have jumped to too many conclusions in my life and been wrong. She has always wanted to meet over writing letters and I figured she might be as sick of writing as I am)))  But when a woman doesn't ask even one personal question before inviting you to vacation with her I am thinking she is acting like a man. Namely not interested in the person but wants "something" out of the situation.

http://www.elenasmodels.com/index.php?ap=4259910

Oh, I won't be going)))

[Ludmila]

JR,  you will do a very right thing.

And another piece of info. This girl is a 100% scam.

I analyzed the text of her profile , it is clear the text was written with INTENTIONAL errors to make it look genuine. But it doesn't reconcile with certain  linguistic logics. I am not elaborating here lest the scammers take it into account.

PM me, if you are interested.

[greg2654]

I can tell you there's absolutely nothing wrong with your eyes!!

[JR]

Episode over.

I got an email from her this morning: you want to meet my friends in  los angeles????i never met you dont know u and you want to meet my friends??????????????????

Haha, apparently it is perfectly OK for me to fly half way around the world to meet/marry someone I don't know and have never met but it's not OK for me to meet her friends and more importantly, their husbands.

This is the reply I just sent her:

Hello Julia,

I want to know who you are and meeting your friends would be a very good way to understand what you are looking for. Additionally they would contact you and say "yes" or "no."

Be at ease Julia. I can see that our lives are leading to different destinations.

I wish you the very best.

Joe

[Gator]

JR,

You are tooooo nice.  Yes, your answer is correct.  However, I would have felt the need for a little insult.

__________________

Hello Julia,

Yes, I wanted to meet your friends because I am a gentleman and I am serious about developing a relationship. 

What are you serious about?   We don't know each other, yet you suggest a holiday in Thailand and all that it implies! 

Where I come from, it is more appropriate to be introduced to friends for a short chat rather than jumping into bed as strangers under the glow of a Thai full moon.

It sounds like you wanted me just for sex.

Gentleman Joe

[UTRO]

A coworker went to Bangkok for business and while at a restaurant a very attractive young woman comes and sits next to him and starts making small talk. He gets excited, thinking he's getting somewhere when she leans over and whispers in his ear "I boy-girl." LOL.

Thanks guys...only two reasons for entertaining the thought of going. Tired of writing letters and the little brain was talking. All I know about her is that she has three girl friends married to Americans and she wants one child. Not much to base a relationship on.

I just wanted to confirm what I was thinking. I have jumped to too many conclusions in my life and been wrong. She has always wanted to meet over writing letters and I figured she might be as sick of writing as I am)))  But when a woman doesn't ask even one personal question before inviting you to vacation with her I am thinking she is acting like a man. Namely not interested in the person but wants "something" out of the situation.

http://www.elenasmodels.com/index.php?ap=4259910

Oh, I won't be going)))

JR, can we have your Elena's password to see the other pics?
Seriously buddy, you made the right decision....
Going to Thailand to meet her would have been a Trainwreck worse than JR and Daveman's Excellent Adventure and Sculpto's Mexican...er, Thailand Odyssey, combined X 10
.... and I'm sure you knew this from the beginning.

[Shadow]

JR,  you will do a very right thing.

And another piece of info. This girl is a 100% scam.

I analyzed the text of her profile , it is clear the text was written with INTENTIONAL errors to make it look genuine. But it doesn't reconcile with certain  linguistic logics. I am not elaborating here lest the scammers take it into account.

PM me, if you are interested.

You are correct. The errors are inconsistent with Russian language.

[RussianWind]

JR, can we have your Elena's password to see the other pics?

For me too please  Just wanted to look how much the other pictures are photoshoped.

Hmm hmmm speaking not about this case but in general... I wouldn't like the idea to bother my friends by a complete stranger whom I didn't even meet myself. They would think I am having problems with my head at least. Fortunately I don't have friends in LA... errr in America