Hello. I'm ukrainian woman, does anybody wants to ask something? :))

[Simoni]

I reply on questions, but sometimes in private messages, because questions about my modeling can make women here more angry then they are now.

No woman here is jealous of your modelling,

That is NOT what she said.   Read more carefully.  She wrote angry, not jealous.

Which is true.

[Simoni]

Simoni

 28 would be the lowest age I would consider, I would just have to many problems with a bigger age gap.  Only time will tell :noidea:

I think you are wise, Bear.

[Boethius]

Fine,  Simoni, replace "jealous" with "angry".  No, they are not "angry" with her, and my comment about Doll still stands.

[Assamena]

I already said sorry to her few times, if you will open your eyes - you will see.

[Simoni]

Fine,  Simoni, replace "jealous" with "angry".  No, they are not "angry" with her, and my comment about Doll still stands.

When you do that, also place your period inside your quote mark.  That is, if you want to write in American English.

[Assamena]

In other words, what can a man say in a letter that makes you like him?

If he writes letter on 3-5 pages with 100questions, it will make me scarry and probably I will not reply.

If he writes short and informative - I like that.

If he is joking sometimes - I like him very much

[Boethius]

Oh, my eyes are open.  You followed your so called "apology" with another, more generalized insult.

Knock it off.

Thank you, Simoni, but I don't use "American" English.  Nevertheless, you are incorrect.

[sunandsail]

Sun-- are you a male or female or transexual?  Your post does not show gender???

Not transexual Simoni - I'm sorry to disappoint.

Just as well though, it would add a whole new set of RWD acronyms.

WOTVOT
WMTVMT

I still want to know what's for dinner.

[Assamena]

sunandsail - I'd like to cook you on the dinner.

Who woud like to try a piece?

[Simoni]

Thank you, Simoni, but I don't use "American" English.  Nevertheless, you are incorrect.  A terminating period goes inside a closing parenthetical mark only if the content of the parentheses is a complete sentence unto itself.

I hate to argue, but I can't allow your incorrect linguistic information to be posted and not corrected.

Since you don't believe me, go to your bookshelf.  Pick up any book.  Start reading.

When you come to conversation that is in quotes, look at the punctuation.  It goes inside the quote mark.  I know it doesn't make sense to you, but that is the way it is done.

Any published book in the US demonstrates this. Or, you can look at the APA style manual, or the Chicago style manual.

________________________

You wrote:

Fine,  Simoni, replace "jealous" with "angry".

Correct written English is:

Fine,  Simoni, replace "jealous" with "angry."

[Simoni]

Not transexual Simoni - I'm sorry to disappoint.

Whew!  That is a relief!  :-)

Thanks, SunandSail :-)

[Handycam72]

Hi Assamena

I just like to say hello to you, and hope you are enjoying your time here at RWD.

Now as your thread here is about people having questions for you, maybe you would like to answer these small questions, in fact anybody can answer them

What is your most favorite word, and your least favorite words?
What sound or noise do you love?
What sound or noise do you hate?

[Olgam]

Fine,  Simoni, replace "jealous" with "angry".

Correct written English is:

Fine,  Simoni, replace "jealous" with "angry."


Actually both sentences are not quotes by their meaning

[Assamena]

Whew!  That is a relief!  :-)

Thanks, SunandSail :-)

Really relief

Then probably there sits more younger woman then me, just with good English, and afraids to show her face.  

[RussianWind]

What seems to be driving some of R/UW totally nuts is all the attention that the guys here are giving her.

Like I said in another thread, jealousy is like a cancer to RU/W and can eat them up.

You are mistaken. I am annoyed that the OP makes a mountain out of a molehill or as we say here "an elephant out of a fly". I find BF's comment as quite innocent kidding to the topic name. What else can you ask her about...  

[sunandsail]

sunandsail - I'd like to cook you on the dinner.

Who woud like to try a piece?

I'm not totally opposed to ukranian cannibalism.

[Boethius]

I hate to argue, but I can't allow your incorrect linguistic information to be posted and not corrected.

Since you don't believe me, go to your bookshelf.  Pick up any book.  Start reading.

When you come to conversation that is in quotes, look at the punctuation.  It goes inside the quote mark.  I know it doesn't make sense to you, but that is the way it is done.

Any published book in the US demonstrates this. Or, you can look at the APA style manual, or the Chicago style manual.

I don't particularly hate to argue, as I am, after all, a Slav, but I do read.  A great deal.  All day, in fact.  I used the parenthetical example, as that was used by Fowler.   Fowler advocated using periods and commas inside quotation marks only when they are part of the quoted material.

I will also quote directly from Sir Ernest Gower's The Complete Plain Words at pp. 257-258:

The second question is whether punctuation marks (including question and exclamation marks) should come before or after the inverted commas.  This has been much argued, with no conclusive result.  It does not seem to me to be of great practical importance. . . The truth is that there is no settled practice governing this most important subject. . .

(Sir Gower then goes on to provide his preference, including examples, which have punctuation included within inverted commas, or quotation marks, when a direct quote is lifted, and outside in other cases.)

Some publishers will not have this.  They dislike the look of stops outside inverted commas. . . But we need not concern ourselves here with questions of taste in printing.  The drafter . . . is avised to stick with the principle of placing the punctuation marks according to sense.


My point was "American" usage is not necessarily universal usage.  This is the manner I was taught to use punctuation in grade school, it is the way I used it throughout university, including for professors (mostly Brits) with PhD's from Oxford and Cambridge, and it the way I will continue to use punctuation.

[Olgam]

I'm not totally opposed to ukranian cannibalism.

 

[ECOCKS]

With all due respect to all parties involved. Ludmilla why would you ever think this woman would be interested in your husbands boss that is 55 and very rich? If the guy is 55 and likes 21 year old girls then he needs his balls removed with a rusty fork.

Uh Greg, the reason Ludmilla did that would be that Assamena is looking for guys in this age range, she's just trying to help the poor girl find a man of interest. Why is it that youdeclare the guy "needs his balls removed with a rusty fork" yet there is nothing wrong with Assamena openly pursuing a girlfriend in this age range. Seems a double-standard situation from where i sit.

Catching up:

I am catching up with this thread in a linear fashion and haven't gotten to the end yet.

I thought I would chime in after the first 10-12 that hit after bedtime last night.

First a short review.

Assamena is 21 years old, professes how much she loves to date older men (30+ years older) and came here offering her advice and counsel with carte blanche.

Her chosen name presents a puzzle to a few folks which has drawn a bit of comment and somewhat established "sides" as defenders and attackers rose up, along with some pragmatic observations as to what might constitute a reasonable question and casual conversation, then the fun starts.

She posts an exceptionally attractive picture which, if true, certainly garners the interests of several board members.

Now the fun starts.

The only surprise I personally find in the seeming "attack" by the women is that some of the guys are surprised by it.

Motivated by jealousy? I don't think so. I do think several guys want to believe this and lash out about it, but deep down, I think this is like a scam avoidance lab exercise. The women, even the ones who have been here for a few years, have good instincts guys. Just maybe you might wonder a little if they don't see things a bit more clearly than some of you.

Maybe Assamena is real, maybe she's not quite what she seems?

Maybe she is something we haven't had on here very much?

Maybe some of you got more motivated after that avatar pic was posted?

Maybe some of you are a bit concerned that the women might not suffer from thinking from a certain direction that the men do?

Now to continue sorting it out....

[I/O]

I'm not totally opposed to ukranian cannibalism.

Now that IS clever. Very very clever but I somehow doubt many will catch more than two meanings.

[Simoni]

The point, Simoni, is that "American" usage is not necessarily universal usage.  So, if you wish to be a pedant, you should broaden your universe a bit.

When you do that, also place your period inside your quote mark.  That is, if you want to write in American English.

That is exactly why I said "if you want to write in American English."

And here you go, quoting a style guide for British English!  Silly.   My undergraduates make this mistake, but I would expect better of you, since you have a college degree.

The point is, you made the statement that what you used was correct.  It is not correct in the US, which constitutes the largest number of books published each year.   And RWD is not a British site. 

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

For others reading this, I'd recommend that you post here using the rules of American English.  Why demonstrate incorrect English to our readers?

[Simoni]

Maybe Assamena is real, maybe she's not quite what she seems?

Maybe she is something we haven't had on here very much?

Well, she is real.  Greg and AJ can confirm mutual acquaintances, and her IP checks out as being from Kharkiv.

And yes, she is something we had before, and that person met the EXACT same reaction from many ladies and a few guys.

She was a cute little blond in her 20s--do any of the "old timers" remember her name?  Marina was her real name--Pen name something like sensuality, which pissed some girls here off!

Her threads are still here.

[sunandsail]

For others reading this, I'd recommend that you post here using the rules of American English.  Why demonstrate incorrect English to our readers?

Now Simoni, there is no reason for you lads in the colonies to go getting so defensive.  I really didn't like the colour of what you say at all.   You really are throwing petrol on a fire, and causing quite a row.   Getting your trowsers in a tizzy.   It's all for nought.  Move a few metres over and get closer to centre. Just be a good bloke and be understanding. 

If you can't behave better, you'll be required to drink an american beer.

[ECOCKS]

Well, she is real.  Greg and AJ can confirm mutual acquaintances, and her posting IP checks out as being from Kharkiv.

And yes, she is something we had before, and that person met the EXACT same reaction from many ladies and a few guys.

She was a cute little blond in her 20s--do any of the "old timers" remember her name?  Marina was her real name--Pen name something like sensuality, which pissed some girls here off!

Her threads are still here.

As I said, "very much" -- the knee jerk defensiveness on here is hilarious.

[Faux Pas]

That is exactly why I said "if you want to write in American English."

And here you go, quoting a style guide for British English!  Silly.   My undergraduates make this mistake, but I would expect better of you, since you have a college degree.

The point is, you made the statement that what you used was correct.  It is not correct in the US, which constitutes the largest number of books published each year.   And RWD is not a British site. 

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

For others reading this, I'd recommend that you post here using the rules of American English.  Why demonstrate incorrect English to our readers?

You are nitpicking and it's pure BS. American English isn't the only English on the planet. In fact if you wish to get technical, it is more pure slang of the original King's English than other derivatives. There are no rules of English for posting on RWD that I am aware of. If the teacher in you has to correct someone you'd be much better served to look elsewhere than the period inside or outside of a quotation mark. Would it have killed you to remain silent or admit you misstated rather than trying to defend that?