A question of weight

[Misha]

But, to be nice, when AW offer and give me their number, I take them and toss or lose after.

I am just curious as what you think you will find in RW that you don't find in AW.

[phantom]

It was actually an honest question, not too good at height/weight, not a big deal.  As far as a girl of 24 posting about an older man, what about those little girls that write them first.  I often get those, so it poses another question, why do young girls of 18-24 write someone of say 20+ years difference?  I state on my profile, ages from usually the youngest 29-42.  But, still get the letters from the younger women.  I wasn't making fun of this lady.  Actually, she seems nice.  So, if I continue my correspondence, I'll probably write to her and maybe meet her, if it looks good, when I go back and some others as well.

As far as RW instead of AW, I have my reasons. 

[JR]

How can you not like AW?

Because it frees him to chase women in the FSU

[berkough]

Weight distribution... The closest I've come to the figures phantom quoted was around 6'0 at probably 170 or so (maybe heavier...) She was amazing in bed and just an all around great girl.
I don't pursue bigger girls, I prefer 5-5'5" and 90-115 lbs (I myself am 5'9" at 160 or so). I don't think it really matters. If she's always got coffee going first thing in the morning and a beer and dinner ready for me when I get home from work, then I'm a happy guy.

[RussianWind]

I often get those, so it poses another question, why do young girls of 18-24 write someone of say 20+ years difference? 

Why are you so naive...

[Shadow]

If she's always got coffee going first thing in the morning and a beer and dinner ready for me when I get home from work, then I'm a happy guy.

Are you in for a surpise....

[Misha]

I often get those, so it poses another question, why do young girls of 18-24 write someone of say 20+ years difference?  I state on my profile, ages from usually the youngest 29-42.  But, still get the letters from the younger women.

Which site are you using? Trust me, if you were on a free Russian dating site and had listed all your information correctly, I can guarantee you that no 18-24 year old women would be writing you and initiating contact. At best you would be getting the occasional spam message from alleged daughters or sons of former generals or presidents in Africa...

As far as RW instead of AW, I have my reasons. 

Keep in mind that if you believe that all RW are somehow inherently superior to all AW, you risk being severely disappointed. Women are women everywhere and yes RW do put up with a lot more in the FSU because they have no choice, but they will quickly understand that they don't have too once they get married and move to their new homes.

[Jumper]

Which site are you using? Trust me, if you were on a free Russian dating site and had listed all your information correctly, I can guarantee you that no 18-24 year old women would be writing you and initiating contact. At best you would be getting the occasional spam message from alleged daughters or sons of former generals or presidents in Africa...

umm, misha you can get  emails from the 18 to 24 yo age group, on the free dating sites.(or USA sites from AW) regardless the criteria you have in your profile.....granted the motivation is one thing , but it's not simply spam.....

Keep in mind that if you believe that all RW are somehow inherently superior to all AW, you risk being severely disappointed. Women are women everywhere and yes RW do put up with a lot more in the FSU because they have no choice, but they will quickly understand that they don't have too once they get married and move to their new homes.

i agree women are women,and men are men,,still if you ask my ex ,or most any married RW here, they  would likley say there are more men of good husband material in the west. perhaps culturally,generally more often to live up to a fathers role?
its a possibilty that RW ,or the culture ,provides differences that are tangible in a general way? obviously you still marry an individual.Having been married to a RW , i would say there are legitimate differences,but yes the fundamentals in human beings are the same the world around,we are far more alike than different

[Jumper]

It was actually an honest question, not too good at height/weight, not a big deal.  As far as a girl of 24 posting about an older man, what about those little girls that write them first.  I often get those, so it poses another question, why do young girls of 18-24 write someone of say 20+ years difference?  I state on my profile, ages from usually the youngest 29-42.  But, still get the letters from the younger women.  I wasn't making fun of this lady.  Actually, she seems nice.  So, if I continue my correspondence, I'll probably write to her and maybe meet her, if it looks good, when I go back and some others as well.

As far as RW instead of AW, I have my reasons. 

phantom -
if it was an honest question, which it appears to be by your clarification..
then my apologies.

[Jumper]

Why are you so naive...

RW!! Do you mean to imply every 19 yo smokinhotkova emailing me isn't sincere?????? :whirling:



my world is upside down now..

 

[Misha]

umm, misha you can get  emails from the 18 to 24 yo age group, on the free dating sites.(or USA sites from AW) regardless the criteria you have in your profile.....granted the motivation is one thing , but it's not simply spam.....

Not in my experience. In the year or so that I was on the mamba network, I could count on my fingers the letters that I got from any women. The few that I did get were simply from women that I had happened to check out their profile. The motivation for the women is quite different on the free Russian sites from what I gather.

[phantom]

Russianwind, I'm not naive, I believe they have other motives.  Misha, no I'm not on any of the free sites, at the moment, I'm paying a monthly fee for letter translations, which also includes 5 video chats, 20 minutes.  The other site is a monthly fee for translations, where the girls actually come into the agency, at both places.  It's also not a matter of what an RW will put up with, so since the first vistit did not go well, I have a pretty relaistic view of things and not dreaming of some fairy tale wedded bliss.  If AW seems to appeal to you, why are you looking in the FSU?  I'll set you up with the southern bell, that won't let up on me.  You may like her.

Okay AJ. 

[Jumper]

Not in my experience. In the year or so that I was on the mamba network, I could count on my fingers the letters that I got from any women. The few that I did get were simply from women that I had happened to check out their profile. The motivation for the women is quite different on the free Russian sites from what I gather.

I've only been on free personals ru, or mamba, a month or so?
but i'd say  if you are ever single again misha,
 i guess you have to get yourself a *dolphinchik *

 

[facetrock]

  Phantom. Their is a huge difference between free sites and agencys. For one, the girls are usually far more real on free sites instead of some money grubbing agency trying to sell video chats, translations and charging to open agency generated letters from the hot young girls.
 
  The free sites are like the real world. If you send out a bunch of letters and get jack back. You are most likely searching out of your league. The hot girls of all ages are getting flooded with mail from locals and you better be decent looking and in SHAPE if you expect to get any responses. You will find on sites like mamba that few girls will even consider a foreign man unless you live there.
Good luck.

[GQBlues]

Phantom-

I would like to believe that you will have a better net return by investing in yourself first before investing in life.

What I mean by that is, instead of trying to determine which dating site is good for you, wasting your time, money, and energy on agencies/emails/webcams/chats etc in the process; that maybe it'll be better spent on weight control programs to help you shed those unhealthy pounds off of you. With proper medical consultation, you can easily determine which rigorous programs are available out there that will aggressively get you fit.

A good year's investment will do wonders for your social adventures anywhere. Forget MOB for a short while. Build yourself and be confident with it. If and when you do - dating will be elemental...just like the phrase 'build it, they will come!'

If you in fact have sole ownership of that earth-occupying whopping mass of *385* - man, zap it!. Maybe it'll help tilt the earth back to 23.5 and help stop climate change.

A year is nothing, man. In Obama term, that's how fast/long it takes to spend 2 trillion dollars without even trying.

[phantom]

Misha, I didn't realize you were married.  My mistake. 

Raven, yes that was good advice, I do need to shed lbs.  On the weight, it was a mistype, it should have read 230, at 5' 9", either way, I'm carrying a big spare tire.  GQ, I was actually considering stopping the correspondence for right now, as the payment is about to run out, and don't want to keep paying, have some things to work on, it should take 6 mos.  Then, back at it and check out different agencies, read the board posts, etc.  Correspond for two months, or less and then go back. 

[GQBlues]

Misha, I didn't realize you were married.  My mistake. 

Raven, yes that was good advice, I do need to shed lbs.  On the weight, it was a mistype, it should have read 230, at 5' 9", either way, I'm carrying a big spare tire.  GQ, I was actually considering stopping the correspondence for right now, as the payment is about to run out, and don't want to keep paying, have some things to work on, it should take 6 mos.  Then, back at it and check out different agencies, read the board posts, etc.  Correspond for two months, or less and then go back. 

Wow! You are actually very close, Phantom! 230 to your optimal is pretty darn close. Sweat a little bit and you'll definitely look sweet in no time. Roll the guns out and you'll easily close a few deals in no time.

Good luck!

[RussianWind]

On the weight, it was a mistype, it should have read 230,

You see... people normally don't know their own weight 

[Misha]

I've only been on free personals ru, or mamba, a month or so?

Free personals ru, however, is not mamba. An example of a mamba site is singles.ru. Free personals ru is in English and is meant for Russians and others to find foreigners. A site such as singles.ru was intended to be for Russian-speakers to find others and to date locally. They only recently added an English interface. Russians who join singles.ru do so to find local people to date. Free personals is made to find someone who is not local. There is a difference.

but i'd say  if you are ever single again misha,
 i guess you have to get yourself a *dolphinchik *

LOL! That might be a winning strategy God forbid, if I ever was single again, I wouldn't want to go through the culture shock and all that again.... 

[Faux Pas]

phantom

The difference between 385 and 230 is one hellva mistype. Something there is amiss. I have no idea what your weight is. I only asked you up thread because for some reason this woman seemingly some how peaked your interest for you to pose such a question to the forum. The answers you received were something I would expect to hear in a Jr. High school locker room. FWIW, if you are that much overweight you will keep finding uninterested women as you did on your first trip. It is as if you have been misrepresenting yourself. You have been misrepresenting yourself here on the forum. My point here is, this woman was apparently honest with you, you should be honest with her. If you are interested let her know, if not let her know as well. At the end of the day you will meet a woman and if there is deception, it will be evident.

Some people will always be overweight. You may or may not be one of them. If you are grossly overweight you know what a challenge it is especially when trying to build a relationship with a stranger. Working on yourself and losing weight is only half of the battle if you seek an FSUW. The other half is getting your mind right.

[phantom]

Faux, my weight is really 230 and I'm 5' 9", I sometimes do hit the wrong keys, like hitting the blasted shift key when hitting numbers.  Typing too fast, as got into the habit when writing.  I've posted my true weight in my profiles, with current pictures and have been being honest.  She seemed nice enough, but I have been thinking over the last week, about stopping for now with the correspondence, working on the weight and some other issues.  My mind is fine.    I know what I want and what I'm looking for.

Thanks GQ. 

[Misha]

Russianwind, I'm not naive, I believe they have other motives.  Misha, no I'm not on any of the free sites, at the moment, I'm paying a monthly fee for letter translations, which also includes 5 video chats, 20 minutes.  The other site is a monthly fee for translations, where the girls actually come into the agency, at both places. 

The reason I asked it that the site might be making a profit if women write and men are more likely to write in most cases to young and attractive women  I was going to counsel you to be wary of sites where too many young women are writing.

[phantom]

Misha, okay I see.    The sites I have been using, just charge a flat fee per month for the translations.  I'm just not looking for someone that young.  Posibly 28 or 29, but try to stick with 30 and up to 42.  I've been on some of those pay per letter sites, and have done that at first, opening letters from young girls.    Have learned since then.

[sunandsail]

<img src="http://www.RussianWomenDiscussion.com/Forum/avatars/Actors/David_Boreanaz.jpg" alt="" class="avatar" border="0" align="left" hspace="10" />I could be fat.  Or really fat.  Typing 230 and 385 is so similar.  She could be 28 or 42.  I'm not sure.  I sure don't like those fat AW though.  

[phantom]

sunandsail, you don't know me to call a hypocrite.  You must not be able to read to good either.  I don't care for AW, fat, pudgy, slim, sexy, ugly, pretty or beautiful.  Also what was said, was I'm searching for someone only as low of the age of 28 and as high as 42.  I never specified the RW's age.  When you make your first trip, you will learn a few things.   Anyway, your school bell just rang, you're late for class.