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Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« on: February 02, 2010, 06:06:32 PM »
I had heard about this rumor some months ago from my wife's uncle who is a deputy warden at an all women facility just outside Kharkov. It seems that the prison bureau of Ukraine is encouraging women who are locked up to being writing to western men with the hopes of marriage. As crazy as it may sound steps are already being taken to make this happen. The prison is for ladies who are locked up serving misdemeanor offenses such as theft, tax evasion, assault and some possession of drug charges. According to him he said that this is going to be an experimental process with his prison in Kharkov as the first one and with some success they are hoping to expand it to different regions and facilities.

The women are being taught English and computer skills while serving their time. I do know that there are several agencies here in the states that help men connect with women that are incarcerated. He said the idea behind such a movement was to help the women garner some hope about their future. He said his facility houses some 400 women from all over Ukraine with most of them not being maximum security. The prison will have it's own website and tours and housing will be available for up to 10 men at a time who are coming to visit the different women. He said that there are apartments that were built for guards and workers at the prison that are not in use that will be used to house men coming to visit. Because no major felony crimes have been committed by these ladies, it will not effect their K-1 status. Of course not all the women who are incarcerated are marriage material but I'm sure there are some. The website will be up in a month or so. The ladies who are interested have been learning English everyday now for several months. Not all women are eligible are interested. He told my wife that the demeanor and attitudes of the ladies in prison are so much better since talk of this program began. I can certainly see where the women would view this as a great opportunity. He said because of overcrowding in Ukraine's women prisons that it is an excellent opportunity to help alleviate some of the over crowding. I know he'll keep me informed and I'll post a link to the website when they are up and running. I enjoy talking to him. His English is very good because he lived in London for 10 years.

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2010, 06:11:33 PM »
I had heard about this rumor some months ago from my wife's uncle who is a deputy warden at an all women facility just outside Kharkov. It seems that the prison bureau of Ukraine is encouraging women who are locked up to being writing to western men with the hopes of marriage. As crazy as it may sound steps are already being taken to make this happen. The prison is for ladies who are locked up serving misdemeanor offenses such as theft, tax evasion, assault and some possession of drug charges. According to him he said that this is going to be an experimental process with his prison in Kharkov as the first one and with some success they are hoping to expand it to different regions and facilities.

The women are being taught English and computer skills while serving their time. I do know that there are several agencies here in the states that help men connect with women that are incarcerated. He said the idea behind such a movement was to help the women garner some hope about their future. He said his facility houses some 400 women from all over Ukraine with most of them not being maximum security. The prison will have it's own website and tours and housing will be available for up to 10 men at a time who are coming to visit the different women. He said that there are apartments that were built for guards and workers at the prison that are not in use that will be used to house men coming to visit. Because no major felony crimes have been committed by these ladies, it will not effect their K-1 status. Of course not all the women who are incarcerated are marriage material but I'm sure there are some. The website will be up in a month or so. The ladies who are interested have been learning English everyday now for several months. Not all women are eligible are interested. He told my wife that the demeanor and attitudes of the ladies in prison are so much better since talk of this program began. I can certainly see where the women would view this as a great opportunity. He said because of overcrowding in Ukraine's women prisons that it is an excellent opportunity to help alleviate some of the over crowding. I know he'll keep me informed and I'll post a link to the website when they are up and running. I enjoy talking to him. His English is very good because he lived in London for 10 years.

Okay, I will be the first to say it... I call "BS".  This reminds me of another thread...
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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2010, 06:14:55 PM »
If I were a Ukrainian with a relative who was a deputy warden, I wouldn't be bragging about it online, or anywhere else, for that matter.  
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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2010, 06:19:17 PM »
Good luck to them filing for a K-1/3 with a criminal record. 

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2010, 06:23:37 PM »
Any Man who would write to a Ukraine Inmate just took desperation to a whole new level.
Would love to hear the after stories to these. Would make Maxx story sound like a trip to Disney Land.

Ditto as well to what Blues Fairy said.

Wonder how many of the ladies are locked up for running a scam already on Western Men?  :D
Now the judicial system is allowing them to do it with a free pass.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2010, 06:29:18 PM by Ravens9273 »

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2010, 06:26:32 PM »
How long will it be before the Warden start pimping the girls to Western men?

Do you think they'll offer "group" discounts. Groups of women that is...
« Last Edit: February 02, 2010, 06:29:23 PM by JollyRats »
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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2010, 06:29:15 PM »
How long will it be before the Warden start pimping out the girls to Western men?

He says, with ticket in hand...
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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2010, 06:30:08 PM »
He says, with ticket in hand...

Damn you, how'd you know?????
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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2010, 06:46:48 PM »
Any Man who would write to a Ukraine Inmate just took desperation to a whole new level.
My initial thoughts exactly. GTG's, GGG's, Pro Daters, Sluts, Hookers and now registered Crooks to weed out or include as it takes your fancy. ::)

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2010, 07:01:28 PM »
Maybe AFA will start doing socials at the penetentiary.

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2010, 07:08:01 PM »
I had heard about this rumor some months ago from my wife's uncle who is a deputy warden at an all women facility just outside Kharkov. It seems that the prison bureau of Ukraine is encouraging women who are locked up to being writing to western men with the hopes of marriage. As crazy as it may sound steps are already being taken to make this happen. The prison is for ladies who are locked up serving misdemeanor offenses such as theft, tax evasion, assault and some possession of drug charges. According to him he said that this is going to be an experimental process with his prison in Kharkov as the first one and with some success they are hoping to expand it to different regions and facilities.

The women are being taught English and computer skills while serving their time. I do know that there are several agencies here in the states that help men connect with women that are incarcerated. He said the idea behind such a movement was to help the women garner some hope about their future. He said his facility houses some 400 women from all over Ukraine with most of them not being maximum security. The prison will have it's own website and tours and housing will be available for up to 10 men at a time who are coming to visit the different women. He said that there are apartments that were built for guards and workers at the prison that are not in use that will be used to house men coming to visit. Because no major felony crimes have been committed by these ladies, it will not effect their K-1 status. Of course not all the women who are incarcerated are marriage material but I'm sure there are some. The website will be up in a month or so. The ladies who are interested have been learning English everyday now for several months. Not all women are eligible are interested. He told my wife that the demeanor and attitudes of the ladies in prison are so much better since talk of this program began. I can certainly see where the women would view this as a great opportunity. He said because of overcrowding in Ukraine's women prisons that it is an excellent opportunity to help alleviate some of the over crowding. I know he'll keep me informed and I'll post a link to the website when they are up and running. I enjoy talking to him. His English is very good because he lived in London for 10 years.

Greg,

'Joke' topics are, occasionally, a pleasant break from the norm - however, given that we just had someone play out a charade on our members less than a week ago - and that some members (especially those in the 'Starting Out' section) are possibly going to be misled - and that some other members will feel a bit offended if taken in by the charade - I think it may be in poor form to post another one of these ruses.

On the very small chance (miniscule) it is not a ruse - feel free to send me a PM.

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2010, 07:14:32 PM »
Greg,

'Joke' topics are, occasionally, a pleasant break from the norm - however, given that we just had someone play out a charade on our members less than a week ago - and that some members (especially those in the 'Starting Out' section) are possibly going to be misled - and that some other members will feel a bit offended if taken in by the charade - I think it may be in poor form to post another one of these ruses.

On the very small chance (miniscule) it is not a ruse - feel free to send me a PM.

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2010, 07:18:12 PM »
It was starting to seem like Monty Python there.
'He said knowingly
Know what I mean
Know what I mean nudge nudge'
There is such a site though...

http://russian.women-ru.com/dating-women/dating-women-in-prison.html
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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2010, 07:21:04 PM »
If you wish to take it one step further:

http://mingle2.com/zombieharmony/free-dating-sites

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2010, 07:30:11 PM »
If you wish to take it one step further:

http://mingle2.com/zombieharmony/free-dating-sites


Damn... I am joining the zombie women discussion group.  I am sure I will see some of you there.
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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2010, 08:00:00 PM »
I am being 100% honest with everything I have posted regarding this issue. I dont know what else to say. Posters,moderators and seekers are free to believe or not believe. I dont know how I can prove my post other than we'll just have to wait and see how this plays out in the next month or so. I'm just trying to help people out here. Maybe it's time for me to start to think about taking what little knowledge I know about this endeavor and moving on since I seem to get no respect around these parts. All I did was repeat what has been told to me.

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2010, 08:05:34 PM »
I am being 100% honest with everything I have posted regarding this issue. I dont know what else to say. Posters,moderators and seekers are free to believe or not believe. I dont know how I can prove my post other than we'll just have to wait and see how this plays out in the next month or so. I'm just trying to help people out here. Maybe it's time for me to start to think about taking what little knowledge I know about this endeavor and moving on since I seem to get no respect around these parts. All I did was repeat what has been told to me.

Greg,

No disrespect intended - just a healthy dose of skepticism. That, and as Blues Fairy mentioned, the background police report ought to prove 'interesting' in terms of any K-visa submission.

If you get a link to a working site, feel free to post it. If our members are interested in taking on whatever challenges it creates, then that fits within our principles of encouraging individual choice.

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2010, 08:06:51 PM »
I am being 100% honest with everything I have posted regarding this issue. I dont know what else to say. Posters,moderators and seekers are free to believe or not believe. I dont know how I can prove my post other than we'll just have to wait and see how this plays out in the next month or so. I'm just trying to help people out here. Maybe it's time for me to start to think about taking what little knowledge I know about this endeavor and moving on since I seem to get no respect around these parts. All I did was repeat what has been told to me.

If what you say can truly be proved to be true, and reputable, I will be the first to say I am sorry.
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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2010, 08:09:35 PM »
If what you say can truly be proved to be true, and reputable, I will be the first to say I am sorry.

If I prove what I said, will you get a haircut?

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2010, 08:09:52 PM »
It was starting to seem like Monty Python there.
'He said knowingly
Know what I mean
Know what I mean nudge nudge'
There is such a site though...

http://russian.women-ru.com/dating-women/dating-women-in-prison.html

I opened this page and its title does read "DATING WOMEN IN PRISON."  

Yet, it gives no information specific to prison until the bottom of the page where it mentions apartments in Nikolaev.  That makes it clear, because Nikolaev and prison are indistinguishable.

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2010, 08:13:49 PM »
If I prove what I said, will you get a haircut?

Doubtful... 

But that was very funny.    :ROFL:
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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2010, 08:14:26 PM »
Yawn........
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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2010, 09:36:42 PM »
 :P

Well Greg, just like the MOB mainstream, why go elsewhere when you can do it here. Maybe the folks in Ukraine got the clue there are enough AMs willing to actually go this route. Who knows...though full disclosure need to be logged. I'm not sure what the immigration complexities will be if there are any.
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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2010, 11:28:47 PM »
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He said because of overcrowding in Ukraine's women prisons that it is an excellent opportunity to help alleviate some of the over crowding.

How will that happen? Those who find a Western man will be released immediately?  ::)

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Re: Dating women from Ukraine who are in prison.
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2010, 02:06:44 AM »
The program works well. One of the first graduates is now running for president in Ukraine.
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