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[Doll]

Well. since you mentioned it and it is very serious, do explain it to me. Don't worry about my English.
I am just curious. I do agree with it, but what do you mean?

[Doll]

The truth is you judge a country by how many people want in, not out..  

BS

[Amerkanski]

Doll, I am sure he has every reason to hate Russians /FSU people as the only thing that is keeping him alive in Russia is paying ridiculous amounts of money.
If you read his background story its clear the guy has been a trouble maker for a long time, to the point where he has built an armour around himself that will disallow any dissenting opinion from his own to get through.
As long as he is lucky and smart enough to make money, in whatever (non-)questionable way,  he will get away with his antics. But I doubt he is actually capable of loving a woman, apart from the physical aspect.

Hey, whatever you have to tell yourself. Also, I am not paid by Russians, but Americans looking for Russian talent.

[Doll]

Hey, whatever you have to tell yourself. Also, I am not paid by Russians, but Americans looking for Russian talent.

Then you waste your employer's money because you are posting of this forum.

[Shadow]

Ok, I've finished the yesterday portion of this thread and now am sure what Amer wants- two things. One is he really wants to tell the AM here that RW are not what they think(which I agreed long ago as you,guys, remember), another - he wants to gain this sort of attention (I clearly see it as I work in special education and see these things every day).
  Some things are true (of what Amer says), some not.
 What I do agree is - it is not worth going overseas to fetch wives. I said it long ago- years ago. Why am I saying that? Because AW are close to you, guys, in mentality. Most of RW will always be "aliens" and THIS IS HOW IT IS!
 Amer is right when he writes that AW can and will show you love the way you want it, because they were raised so. RW were raised in a different environment and it will always affect the relationships (with a tiny exception).
  As for Amer's bitching Russian reality- then just pack up and go home of it is so ugly.

Doll, if a guy comes along who is in to agency hype about RW being angels that will dvote their life to the first guy who shows them a blue passport, I fully agree. But there are already plenty of people here, including RW, who can cure that picture.

As for going overseas to find a wife, for me it was worth it. If I would have to repeat I would not change myself, looking anywhere in the world, including the town where I live.
If you find your life partner, it is always worth it, no matter where she is from.

[Shadow]

The truth is you judge a country by how many people want in, not out..  

Do you have any idea how many illegal immigrants get in to Russia on a daily basis ? 

[Amerkanski]

Ok, I've finished the yesterday portion of this thread and now am sure what Amer wants- two things. One is he really wants to tell the AM here that RW are not what they think(which I agreed long ago as you,guys, remember), another - he wants to gain this sort of attention (I clearly see it as I work in special education and see these things every day).
  Some things are true (of what Amer says), some not.
 What I do agree is - it is not worth going overseas to fetch wives. I said it long ago- years ago. Why am I saying that? Because AW are close to you, guys, in mentality. Most of RW will always be "aliens" and THIS IS HOW IT IS!
 Amer is right when he writes that AW can and will show you love the way you want it, because they were raised so. RW were raised in a different environment and it will always affect the relationships (with a tiny exception).
  As for Amer's bitching Russian reality- then just pack up and go home of it is so ugly.

Oh my god, we actually agree on something and you're a RW? Hey, do you have a sister? J/k

- then just pack up and go home of it is so ugly- Honestly, when it's over I promise you that I will never step foot in Russia again. I promise!!!

[Amerkanski]

Then you waste your employer's money because you are posting of this forum.

They contract with me..

[Shadow]

Hey, whatever you have to tell yourself. Also, I am not paid by Russians, but Americans looking for Russian talent.

I am not talking about who is paying you, but about what money you pay and offer...

[SMS60]

Ok, I've finished the yesterday portion of this thread and now am sure what Amer wants- two things. One is he really wants to tell the AM here that RW are not what they think(which I agreed long ago as you,guys, remember)

^^This is it.

If you stand back and look at the big picture it is clear. There is a lot of smoke blown up people areses on this forum. The way he is delivering his message is bothersome to many members.

Sometimes the forum looks like amateur hour.

[Amerkanski]

Do you have any idea how many illegal immigrants get in to Russia on a daily basis ? 

Do you know how many incredibly talented and kind Russians leave? I am sure there is more then a few on this board you can chat with..

[Doll]

Oh my god, we actually agree on something and you're a RW? Hey, do you have a sister? J/k

Actually, Doll is well known for talking AM out of going overseas.
The difference is - I do like RW, but think that AW are not worse at all.

[Doll]

They contract with me..

Sure, they pay you hourly, so you can't use this time for personal posting.
 

[Amerkanski]

I am not talking about who is paying you, but about what money you pay and offer...

It just did not translate right.. still a bit lost on what you were trying to say..Don't worry about it.

But to answer your question about my good friends RW chasing foreigners I would not get involved..

[Shadow]

Do you know how many incredibly talented and kind Russians leave? I am sure there is more then a few on this board you can chat with..

I guess Doll was right with her comment.
If you judge a country by how many want in and how many want out, you take the 'net migration', taking the number of immigrants and subtracting the number of emigrants.

Net migration statistics show that the US should be counted as the best country. However if you see that the second place goes to Afghanistan, I get my doubts about the arguments.  

As for your comment, do you know that Russia has started a program to get these people back to Russia ?

[Amerkanski]

Sure, they pay you hourly, so you can't use this time for personal posting.
 

as long as you believe that... WTF?

[Doll]

Hon, so what about this "prison mentality"? Come on!
(BTW why do you want sister? You hate Russians, you said))))))))

[Shadow]

It just did not translate right.. still a bit lost on what you were trying to say..Don't worry about it.

But to answer your question about my good friends RW chasing foreigners I would not get involved..

I am not talking abot her chasing foreigners, but about her being the same as 'all RW'.

[Doll]

as long as you believe that... WTF?

The F is there is you are acting in a "non American" way- use your paid time for personal posting. See how we, Russians in America, now look at it? Hehe

[Amerkanski]

I guess Doll was right with her comment.
If you judge a country by how many want in and how many want out, you take the 'net migration', taking the number of immigrants and subtracting the number of emigrants.

Net migration statistics show that the US should be counted as the best country. However if you see that the second place goes to Afghanistan, I get my doubts about the arguments.  

As for your comment, do you know that Russia has started a program to get these people back to Russia ?

hey, your cheating using that Russian calculator.. Could we please bring it back on topic?

[Amerkanski]

I am not talking abot her chasing foreigners, but about her being the same as 'all RW'.

Alright, finally something worth learning.. can you write a bit more on what you mean? Like give me a scenario..?

[Daveman]

...
 What I do agree is - it is not worth going overseas to fetch wives. I said it long ago- years ago. Why am I saying that? Because AW are close to you, guys, in mentality. Most of RW will always be "aliens" and THIS IS HOW IT IS!
 Amer is right when he writes that AW can and will show you love the way you want it, because they were raised so. RW were raised in a different environment and it will always affect the relationships (with a tiny exception).
....

There is more than quite a bit of truth there.  I may not agree that it's not worth it (at least not yet), but god these relationships can be a royal pain in the butt sometimes.  You have to have (and you have to find someone who shares these qualities), first off, an open mind, secondly, patience, and thirdly, tenacity.   Of course love, etc, but without both people having those first three, the relationship is probably doomed from the outset.

[Amerkanski]

Hon, so what about this "prison mentality"? Come on!
(BTW why do you want sister? You hate Russians, you said))))))))

Doll you would not understand it..nor do I have the energy to explain it.. we can move on?

[Doll]

I guess Doll was right with her comment.
If you judge a country by how many want in and how many want out, you take the 'net migration', taking the number of immigrants and subtracting the number of emigrants.

Net migration statistics show that the US should be counted as the best country. However if you see that the second place goes to Afghanistan, I get my doubts about the arguments.  

As for your comment, do you know that Russia has started a program to get these people back to Russia ?

The USA is in the 1-st place because of Mexican people. What does it have to do with Russia (which BTW is "higher" than France and many other European countries)?

[Shadow]

hey, your cheating using that Russian calculator.. Could we please bring it back on topic?

The topic is get the truth.... so I am on topic all the time.