RW and latin men

[alex330]

Does not apply for me as I am a haole, but here is the question in case any of our Latin brothers are creeping around the site 
How do RW feel about about Latin men? They are a fast growing segment of the US population and there are some very eligible candidates.

[kievstar]

White men will have an advantage over non white men.  So it just is another potential issue to get over.

[alex330]

White men will have an advantage over non white men. 

My Cuban buddies would be sure to let somebody who told them they were not white know otherwise in a very quick and unfriendly way
There are many "white" latins. I have read about racism in the FSU. Was just wondering if there was substance to it.

[kievstar]

I am an American men and view blacks, Mexicans, and Asians as non white if they are not genetically white. 

You should have said Spanish genetic Cubans which is the majority of Cubans.  More than one million Cubans have black ancestry.

Seems you hang out with violent friends.  This will not sit well with RW.  You may want to reconsider going for a RW or change friends.

White Cubans make up a small population of Latin America and it gets smaller each year.

Brazil is where most of the white Latinos live.  I lived in Sao Paulo before. But many no longer have the white gentics look anymore. So the published rate of white Latinos is very much smaller than reality.

There is racism in USA as well.  You will find more racism in FSU than USA.  But is a racist worse than one of your violent friends?

[Gator]

How do RW feel about about Latin men?

Tell your Hispanic friends to write some RW.

-  My wife thinks Latin men are more handsome than the typical American man who in turn is better looking than the typical Russian man.  She dislikes the 'too white' look (so fair skinned and light blonde that they get lost on the bed sheets.

-  Latin dancing and music have a significant following in Moscow, with Mojito a popular cocktail.

I have read about racism in the FSU. Was just wondering if there was substance to it.

Some RW may think Latin men look like a 'monkey.'  Yet there are many RW who like the exotic.  There are a few RWD husbands who would never be considered a descendant of the Pilgrims.

[SANDRO43]

here is the question in case any of our Latin brothers are creeping around the site 

I assume you mean 'American' Latins? European Latins range from Portugal to Romania and are mostly white, although tending to the swarthy in our lower latitudes - natural sun shield .

The darker skin hues in your continent are a result of cross-breeding with the native 'bronze' populations first, and African slaves later on.

Brazil is where most of the white Latinos live. I lived in Sao Paulo before.

I visited Rio in 1976, and the variety of skin colours - from albino white to coal black - was astonishing. The Portuguese were much less inhibited than the Spaniards in this connection, as we were in our Eastern African colonies (Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia). 

[alex330]

You should have said Spanish genetic Cubans which is the majority of Cubans.  More than one million Cubans have black ancestry.

Seems you hang out with violent friends.  This will not sit well with RW.  You may want to reconsider going for a RW or change friends.

Brazil is where most of the white Latinos live.  I lived in Sao Paulo before. But many no longer have the white gentics look anymore. So the published rate of white Latinos is very much smaller than reality.

Yes, most Cubans in South Florida are descended from Spain.

I have all types of friends from all over. I was just pointing out that they would be quite offended.
 
Brazil I have always thought as a very diverse mix to be honest. Sothern Brazil has a large German and Italian ancestry I suppose.  What about Argentina, Uruguay, Costa Rica, and Chile? All very white countries.

[alex330]

I assume you mean 'American' Latins? European Latins range from Portugal to Romania and are mostly white, although tending to the swarthy in our lower latitudes - natural sun shield .

The darker skin hues in your continent are a result of cross-breeding with the native 'bronze' populations first, and African slaves later on.
I visited Rio in 1976, and the variety of skin colours - from albino white to coal black - was astonishing. The Portuguese were much less inhibited than the Spaniards in this connection, as we were in our Eastern African colonies (Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia). 

Yes, European Latins are very white. Argentina, Chile and Uruguay have a minimal indigenous population as they were wiped out. Most of the people in those countries are very European. In fact the cities them selves are very European looking as well. 

[kievstar]

I would say even if not white looking can still easily meet a wonderful Russian woman.  

Mojito is an interesting drink and was invented to cover up the taste of bad rum several hundred years ago.  A popular drink for bars as you can use lower priced rum and make a wonderful drink.

Brazil and Mexico make up the bulk of Latin Americas total population.  Personally think the men and women in Argentina are the most attractive of any of the Americas.  There European Spanish decent.  I think why Cubans tend to be very attractive as well.  I bet a Spanish decent from the Americas mixed with a Ukrainian woman would make nice looking children.

[alex330]

Mojito is an interesting drink and was invented to cover up the taste of bad rum several hundred years ago.

Personally think the men and women in Argentina are the most attractive of any of the Americas. I think why Cubans tend to be very attractive as well.  

Interesting fact on the Mojito, thanks

Yes, Argentines and Spanish Cubans are very good looking people. In Argentina you also have a large Italian and German population from after WWII. I have heard that these European countries are trying to lure people back to Europe with citizenship to make up for the population decline.

[SANDRO43]

Mojito is an interesting drink and was invented to cover up the taste of bad rum several hundred years ago.

Possibly caipirinha had a similar origin more recently, cachaça does have a rather pungent taste.

[SANDRO43]

I have heard that these European countries are trying to lure people back to Europe with citizenship to make up for the population decline.

I don't think demographics motivated that. As a former nation of emigrants, we've long had laws that maintained Italian citizenship for compatriots seeking a better life abroad.

IINM, proving 3-degree Italian ancestry (up to grand-grandparents) allows to claim Italian citizenship. Every time a South American country like Argentina hits political difficulties or an economic slump, our consulates there are swamped by requests for Italian passports. Then they get here and find that job opportunities, though better than at home, are not so hot .

[GQBlues]

There are many "white" latins. I have read about racism in the FSU. Was just wondering if there was substance to it.

I don't believe it is so much as racism as it is nationalism.

[Shadow]

There is racism in USA as well.  You will find more racism in FSU than USA.  But is a racist worse than one of your violent friends?

I would like to correct that in:
You will find more *open* racism in the FSU than USA.

The true amount of racism in the USA is covered by habits that are truly amazing for Europeans, and even more for Russians.

In the FSU people will state openly their mind about different races and people. But they will have friends within those groups and do not mind working with them or doing business.

As for 'white' Latins, remember that in the FSU people from the Caucasus (funny contradiction) who look like Turkish and white-Middle-Eastern are called 'black'.

For Africans and hteir descendents the term 'negro' applies, which can to Americans cause immediate cringing and thoughts of racism.

[Aloe]

Heyyy, almost every little girl's dream was Enrique Iglesias, so many girls my age 100% are not repulsed by word "latino", cuz Enrique comes to mind  Now the question is, how the latino really looks..

[OmegaSupreme]

Now the question is, how the latino really looks..

I would imagine that is one of the keys right there, the other being personality, of course. I am half "latin" myself (Spanish), and so far have not had any negative comments at all to that fact. I don't particularly look latin, but once they find out (or see a pic of my mother), then it become obvious to them. So I may be a special case.

[Gator]

The true amount of racism in the USA is covered by habits that are truly amazing for Europeans, and even more for Russians.

Good observation.  Do not be too harsh about American habits.

-   Keep in mind that racism was the darkest chapter in America's history.  We are still paying for our sins and perhaps overreacting, but that is another story.   
 
-   Also keep in mind that Americans are bombarded by the doctrine of political correctness:  "...the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." 

[SANDRO43]

Heyyy, almost every little girl's dream was Enrique Iglesias

An earlier generation was nuts for Enrique's dad, Julio:

[Shadow]

Good observation.  Do not be too harsh about American habits.

-   Keep in mind that racism was the darkest chapter in America's history.  We are still paying for our sins and perhaps overreacting, but that is another story.   
 
-   Also keep in mind that Americans are bombarded by the doctrine of political correctness:  "...the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." 

Gator you are mixing slavery with racism. Coming from a former nation of slave traders, and having studied some classics, this is a mistake that people seem to make often.
While they are intertwined in American history, not every slave owner was racist, and not every racist can be traced back to slave-owners.

As for the habits, I rather enjoy them. And every now and then it is interesting to see Russian TV and think of how certain jokes would cause a large uproar if repeated in the US, or in some Western European countries for that matter. 

[Boethius]

Enrique's good looks may also come from his mother, who is half Spanish and half Filipina.  She came from a prominent family in the Phillipines.  I can't remember her name, perhaps Sandro may know.

[SANDRO43]

Enrique's good looks may also come from his mother, who is half Spanish and half Filipina.  She came from a prominent family in the Phillipines.  I can't remember her name, perhaps Sandro may know.

Anybody can thanks to Wikipedia -  although grammar there might not be totally reliable :

Iglesias was born in Madrid, Spain, the third and final child of singer Julio Iglesias and socialite and magazine journalist Isabel Preysler. His mother is Filipino and his father is of Galician Spanish and Jewish ancestry. His parents divorced in 1978, and the following year their ??? father moved to Miami, Florida to continue with his musical career.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Iglesias

I'd say he looks more like his father than his mother, no Oriental features.

[GQBlues]

Enrique's good looks may also come from his mother, who is half Spanish and half Filipina.  She came from a prominent family in the Phillipines.  I can't remember her name, perhaps Sandro may know.

Her name is Isabel Preysler. She lived in Madrid when she was 18 to study and that is where she met Julio. She is the daughter of Philippine Airline's CEO and IIRC, her mother was a real estate magnate.

[djfourmonie]

Gator you are mixing slavery with racism. Coming from a former nation of slave traders, and having studied some classics, this is a mistake that people seem to make often.
While they are intertwined in American history, not every slave owner was racist, and not every racist can be traced back to slave-owners.

As for the habits, I rather enjoy them. And every now and then it is interesting to see Russian TV and think of how certain jokes would cause a large uproar if repeated in the US, or in some Western European countries for that matter. 

 How come "some" people think its okay to talk about Slavery like they are some sort of expert? Stop being revisionist!

 It was one of the worst things to ever happen in America and the legacy of White Supremacy keeps us from having Reconciliation Hearings like they did in South Africa or discussions about Reparations (when the US has paid Reparations to Iraqis, Vietnamese and Cambodians) and caused over 600,000 deaths as the result of the Civil War, so please don't try to minimize the damage racism has caused in America and continues to cause.

 This is the same country that wouldn't recognize Haiti when it kicked out the French and became the FIRST All Black Country in the Western Hemisphere in 1804, fearing it would give our own slaves ideas. 

 Back On Topic -

 I learned a while back to not ask a board like this that's homogeneous, when most of the posters don't have any clue what they are talking about.

 They simply don't know and the women they deal with have not considered anybody but Caucasian men, like somebody would REALLY ask - "Would you consider a Black or Brown man over me?"

 I can tell that you Color is not important for many women who only care about the man you are inside, you can take that to the bank.

 
 

 

 
 

[Gator]

 It was one of the worst things to ever happen in America...

I can not think of anything worse.

...and the legacy of White Supremacy keeps us from having Reconciliation Hearings...

and all other aspects of color blind relations.


Thanks for posting.  I was not going to debate the issue with Shadow (who is a decent man).

You are young and have only read about what I saw growing up in the South in the 1940s, 50s, 60s.  Tumultuous times.  My father was a racist and my mother a goodhearted liberal.  My eyes opened at the age of 10 when I went on a Boy Scout mission to deliver Christmas charity packages to the needy (and 75% of the recipients were black).  Driving the truck that day was a proud, intelligent, substantive black man with his son, also a Boy Scout.  We talked , talked , talked.  I learned so much.  One of my best 100 days. Whoever convinced white and black boy scout troops to join together for this mission was ahead of his time.

Many years later I was able to do something positive by funding a political campaign to get out the vote to elect the first black county commissioner in this rural Georgian community.  There was another reason, yet it made my heart feel good, especially when a man named Julian Bond called me.

I can tell that you Color is not important for many women who only care about the man you are inside, you can take that to the bank.

It's true.  And it helps that you are better looking than most of the white dudes.  One of my wife's best RW friends is happily married to an African-American.  And my wife thinks this man is easy on the eyes and a lot of fun. 

[Shadow]

How come "some" people think its okay to talk about Slavery like they are some sort of expert? Stop being revisionist!

I wonder the same thing, as there is nobody with first-hand experience available.

Slavery was abolished in 1865, why would anyone even think about Reparations ? Sounds like people are wanting free money from the governent for something they have no direct connection with.

I fully agree by the way that slavery is a dark page in modern history, and racism should be fought by any means. However when fighting racism I will always strive to fight racism from any human being, and the white skinned people are not the only ones who can be racists.

Colour is not important, as long as you do not make it important.