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Offline smilingjake

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Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« on: February 21, 2010, 07:57:24 PM »
Greetings All --

Its been almost three months since I have spent any considerable amont of time on this site.
The reason being the arrival of my fiance just prior to Christmas of this past year.

In that time frame I have been devoting all of my time at home to Tatianna and working on our relationship.

Regrettably, Tatianna advised me that she wants to return home. She just misses her familytoo much and doesnt feel that she could wait until the end of this year to return home if we were married.

I would say missing her family followed closely to adapting to life in the village were the two hardest things getting used to here in Pennsylvania.

I will post more in the upcoming weeks after Tatianna returns home. Perhaps I can offer some advice to others based on my failed first attempt.

No matter what may happen down the road, I have no regrets about getting involved in the process, or the woman whom I had hoped would be my life partner.

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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2010, 08:02:19 PM »
Where is she from? Where in PA are you?

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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2010, 08:19:18 PM »
Sorry to hear that Jake.

Best of luck in your future.
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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2010, 08:25:19 PM »
She just misses her familytoo much and doesnt feel that she could wait until the end of this year to return home if we were married.
I would say missing her family...

Do not want to be CRUEL with my words.
YOU ARE her family if there is BIG LOVE!!

...followed closely to adapting to life in the village

This can also be the big problem!!
It is a pity!! :(  brave girl

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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2010, 08:26:27 PM »
Doll ---

Fiance is from Dneptroptvosk. I reside in the Lehigh Valley area of Pennsylvania. I am 60 miles from Philadelphia and about 80 miles from New York.

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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2010, 08:32:53 PM »
Doll ---

Fiance is from Dneptroptvosk. I reside in the Lehigh Valley area of Pennsylvania. I am 60 miles from Philadelphia and about 80 miles from New York.
You're 1 hour drive from our house.
BTW I have friends here- the Ukrainian family from Dnepropetrovsk. They don't miss Ukraine too much.

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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2010, 09:09:33 PM »
Do not want to be CRUEL with my words.
YOU ARE her family if there is BIG LOVE!!

I never thought I would say it, but there is a lot of truth in Brave Girl's words. Nonetheless, I am sorry that things did not work out for you Jake. Such happenings are never easy to bear.

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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2010, 09:48:17 PM »

Thanks for sharing your story Jake. Not an easy pill to swallow but this can happen to anybody in this endeavor.
Fund the audits, spread the word and educate people, write your politicians and other elected officials. Stay active in the fight to save our country. Over 220 generals and admirals say we are in a fight for our survival like no other time since 1776.

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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2010, 10:26:16 PM »
I'm sorry things didn't work out for you, Jake.
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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2010, 12:50:54 AM »
Sorry to hear it Jake. Brave Girl is right that only a big love can overcome such problem, however for some people even that big love is not enough.
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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2010, 05:32:29 AM »
Jake, I am truly sorry to hear this. Elena will be here in a few weeks and she has close ties to her family as well. It is a subject we have discussed and I am hoping that we will overcome what you went through. Is there any chance in changing her mind? If you got married now, she could have her AP in a few months, not the end of the year.
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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2010, 07:58:30 AM »
Sorry to hear about his, jake. 
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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2010, 04:44:11 AM »
Thanks for posting that Jake and I hope you will post more after her return.  Sometimes we can learn more when things go wrong that when they go right. 

I went through that with my first fiancee as well so I know how it feels.  At the time I would have given anything to change her mind but in retrospect after the dust has settled it was the best thing that ever could have happened.

I am sure there are many reasons for her decision but Viking is right.  Had she stayed it would have been only a few months or maybe even less before she could have returned for a visit.

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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 09:14:14 AM »
Very sorry to hear this news Jake.
If there is no solution, better it happened now rather than after you married.
Tatianna sounds like a very sincere person.



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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2010, 10:10:54 PM »
Better to find this out now than later. Sorry it worked out that way. Would you consider moving closer to a big city for her?

Best to you.
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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2010, 08:27:14 AM »
Sorry to hear the news.

You mentioned two reasons for the issue.  One was family but you mentioned in the past her parents are deceased and only a sister. 

Regarding where you live I can see that.  But most RW along with there AM I have talked to have some kind of culture shock at first.  Was she able to meet friends in the area?

I just feel your both throwing in the towel to soon.  Would you consider going to Ukraine to live as your 55 any maybe already retired.  Do not have to get married.  You should try living there as well.  Than see what happens?  Remember work is work. 

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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2010, 10:35:28 AM »
Do not want to be CRUEL with my words.
YOU ARE her family if there is BIG LOVE!!

This can also be the big problem!!
It is a pity!! :(  brave girl

True.

Goes both ways.. Moving to RU was a consideration if my wife really did not like it here..  Actually she does not like it that awful much, but more or less tolerates it to be with me.

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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2010, 11:02:59 AM »
Sorry to hear that Jake.

But kudos to Tatianna for being honest enough with you to lay it all on the line. 

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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2010, 02:58:33 PM »
Kievstar brings up a good point here Jake.

If you are able to go there in terms of work and finnces, why not go to Ukraine for at least three months and see how things go. It's a viable option that most WM don't have the courage to try. You'll have some visa concerns in the offing but if it is really love between you, maybe you can find a way to do this.

Sorry to hear the news.

You mentioned two reasons for the issue.  One was family but you mentioned in the past her parents are deceased and only a sister. 

Regarding where you live I can see that.  But most RW along with there AM I have talked to have some kind of culture shock at first.  Was she able to meet friends in the area?

I just feel your both throwing in the towel to soon.  Would you consider going to Ukraine to live as your 55 any maybe already retired.  Do not have to get married.  You should try living there as well.  Than see what happens?  Remember work is work. 
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Re: Fiance returning to the Ukraine
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2010, 08:11:38 AM »
If it can serve as consolation, I brought 5 girls to stay with me, in London, for a period of time before I found "the one". The relationships did not work for various reasons. It's the nature of the beast, looking for a bride far away. But ending the relationship before you rush to get married is going to cost you a lot less in heartache, time and money than if it ends after you get married.

If the saying "plenty of fish in the sea" is true anywhere it is in the FSU. So, if you cannot restore the relationship with this one, find another one. Don't get obsessed with her. The first 4 girls I brought to my country I forgot quickly on finding others.
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