I need help about a woman from Ukraine

[kievstar]

I think she was trying to see what type of man you were Spunk.  I think you passed by not being into anal.

I also do not think your a sex tourist but a sex tourist has nothing to do with economics.  Sex tourists go to Ukraine even if it is more expensive than women in their own country.

There are many strange men who look for women in foreign countries and I think you met a woman that does a little due diligence.  Nothing wrong with that.

[Markus]

Amazing. I certainly would not have taken the road you have paved, but I paved a road some wouldn't take either.
So good luck with this.

[Gylden]

Spunk,
Sorry for the sharp welcome here, but in your OP you didn't explain much and asked for advice if you should continue a relationship. Responsible people will never give advice like that especially if they don't even know you or many details. Without having your later explanation about your experiences with other women on the net how were we to know you just weren't one of those types yourself? Then you said you wouldn't judge her and then did judge her. Any way many people asked you to supply more information.
I just want to remind you, that when you come to a public place like a forum and you don't explain better you will often get such responses.
Any way, as I said before Good Luck!

[Patagonie]

Of course you should meet this person. About you, nothing personnal. But I tell it again there a difference between be sexual (in whatever manners you want) and
ask questions about sex. First there are many sexuality behaviour, and this part is very secret, in particular for women. So are you sure to get true informations ? Not sure. Do you think talk about sex will give you informations about chemistry in this area of relationship ? Absolutely no. So what are the benefits? A lot of risks. And when you speak about this two "strange" girls you said they told herselves. True ? Often, people who don't have commons (look I say common not normal or good) sexual practice are not very shy to tell you when you know them a little bit. And in particular behind a computer where girls feel protected.

[Handycam72]

Spunk, what's your nationality? Born and raised in America? Is English your first language?

Maybe this is a clue

- And please don’t call me a sex tourist because I would be cheaper to buy sex in Copenhagen than use money on airplane tickets, apartment/hotel and the stay.

Now don't start the "Improve your English or you have no chance" seems some people (namely American) have an intolerence of other languages other than their own.

[thompsongunner06]

Anal sex,,,gross,,,,but some women like it.
Number of "men" she has been with,,,well will you tell her the number of girls you have "done"?
If she is 30 something she is no virgin. End of that subject.
Grow up, be a man and live life,,,Aloe is very right on this subject.
I have never asked my wife anything like that,,and never will. And she has never asked me those questions.
You should provide her an Aids/STD test result and she should do the same. Or use protection until her medicals tests are done to come to the US.
Welcome to the site.

[camachinist]

OP, my advice is to visit in April, have a backup plan for other enjoyable activities and for meeting other people if the lady and you don't hit it off IRL and find a trustworthy guide, assuming you don't speak/read Russian/Ukrainian fluently. If this woman is as beautiful as you suggest, and can read/type/speak English well, she is automatically subject to a lot of attention and such attention can foster less than savory behaviors. Kiev, given its accessibility and status as capital of Ukraine, is more likely to concentrate such aspects. That said, regardless, nuances of meaning (such as your online discussions of sex) can be lost upon someone who is not native to the language, so misunderstandings can happen. This is especially true around subjects of intimacy, emotion, and sex. IMO, be very careful with that part.

Enjoy your trip 

 

[Gator]

For some of our newer members here is a good example of a troll.

I agree. 

Probably a limey given the choice of "Spunk" as a handle.  While Americans may think of spunk as "courage," our British members probably will think of something else.

[Gylden]

LOL,
Well Gator, I am sure you and Jack are better versed to tell, but to be honest I thought he must have been for real, just VERY naive, I have met some similar guys
in my adventures here. There are many "out of the way" small villages here in Scandinavia, where people don't have the exposure to things as we are more accustomed to. (I hope I don't get clobbered for saying so, but it is true)
 

[JR]

Spunk, Spunky, SpunkMeister.....

You say you won't judge her then you do and additionally you ask us too also.....bad boy!!!

So she doesn't remember the exact number, so what? Women don't keep a score card the way men do.

So maybe she has done it with two men at once. Are really going to tell us that you have never dreamed of having two women at once  yourself?

You opened the door, stop complaining about what is on the other side. Just go and see for yourself. Leave the judgements at home.

Best of luck to you.

[Chicagoguy]

Where is Spunk ?

[tfcrew]

No Spunk [I guess]


And I had some popcorn made...........

[Spunk]

I’m here.

Let me tell all that I’m from Denmark.

Let me also tell about the name Spunk. Spunk was years ago the name of some liquorices we could buy. Because I liked it a lot I got the nickname “Spunk”.

First of all I don’t need a plan B. I would rather go home earlier than meet a new woman. I can only write with one girl at the time and so call me old-fashioned. Maybe other can but I don’t think it’s fair to other women or me.

I’ll go and meet the woman and I’m sure about everything will be all right. I learned something the last days and thanks to those persons, who opened my eyes and mind.

Regards

“Spunk”

[camachinist]

Spunk, as I related a bit in another thread, I had an 'online relationship' go south only a couple of weeks before my first trip to Ukraine over a decade ago, and that was before the internet was in wide use in the FSU and I was traveling from the West Coast (US) to Ukraine. Lemons got served so I made lemonade. I didn't cancel the trip. I ended up meeting some great people and enjoying one of the best Christmas and New Year's holidays of my life.

Tell me, what went wrong with your two prior relationships with RW/UW?

I can tell you that the one that blew up on me was due to getting too involved online with too many cultural differences and a language barrier. That was my fault. I was inexperienced with such things. Online was 'new' back then. Communicating intimacy is so complex anyway. When I visit again, it will just be light contact prior and see where it goes while there in person. IMO, that's the best way.

BTW, I wasn't advising writing to another woman as 'plan B'; I did that once my initial plan blew up and ended up meeting two ladies in different cities on that trip. I could tell they were uncomfortable with that arrangement and I didn't lie about it. Rather, I mean having resources in place to recover your trip if things don't work out in person. You get dumped (or dump her) and you're thousands of miles from home. You can go home, eat the costs and hang your head, or you can choose another way. Up to you

[Stirlitz]

I was a little surprised because I heard another place that women in Ukraine only had anal sex if they were prostitute.

Rubbish. Prostitutes are the first ones to avoid anal sex actually.

Now I really don’t know about it will be good idea to go and visit her about 3 weeks.… I can’t get out of my mind about she really was a bartender and maybe worked as a part time prostitute in this bar (or something like that).

OMG… Who is the woman here? You think way too much. Just go and get her!

[SANDRO43]

Rubbish. Prostitutes are the first ones to avoid anal sex actually.

Most of those on hooker sites include it in their services, sometimes at an extra charge .

[Markus]

I’m here.

Let me tell all that I’m from Denmark.

Let me also tell about the name Spunk. Spunk was years ago the name of some liquorices we could buy. Because I liked it a lot I got the nickname “Spunk”.

First of all I don’t need a plan B. I would rather go home earlier than meet a new woman. I can only write with one girl at the time and so call me old-fashioned. Maybe other can but I don’t think it’s fair to other women or me.

I’ll go and meet the woman and I’m sure about everything will be all right. I learned something the last days and thanks to those persons, who opened my eyes and mind.

Regards

“Spunk”

Going home earlier is your plan B. A plan B of this nature is much easier since you don't have to cross the Atlantic. So go check her out and let us know how it goes.

[ML]

So she doesn't remember the exact number, so what? Women don't keep a score card the way men do.

Apparently, some do!

* * * * * * * *

Today 16 March 2010 at 17:27 | London Reuters  (Reuters Life)

Sex study: Swinging 60 had nothing on the Noughties

Young women today are nearly three times more sexually active than those of their grandmothers' generation in the liberal heyday of the "Swinging 60s," according to a survey on Tuesday.

The study found that women in the so-called Noughties between 2000 and 2009 had an average of 5.65 different sexual partners by the time they were 24. Almost one in 10 of those asked claimed to have slept with more than 10 different partners.

By contrast, women who were in their early twenties in the 1960s had an average of 1.67 partners, and women of their mothers' generation, aged 24 in the 1970s, had 3.72 sexual partners by the same age.

The survey, carried out by ICM on behalf of Lloyds Pharmacy, questioned more than 3,000 women across Britain.

[ML]

Most of those on hooker sites include it in their services, sometimes at an extra charge .

Sandro, what do you usually pay for such service in Italy?
And, in your world travels, what has been the rate in other countries?
My company will allow for such on expense reports, provided the costs meet the criteria of:  "customary and usual for the country."

[ML]

Rubbish. Prostitutes are the first ones to avoid anal sex actually.

Stirlitz, in Ukraine, as you know, this is due to the Babushka information network.

According to Babushka network, anal sex could lead to activation of the A-spot (as distinct from the G-spot) and pregnancy could result.

And, even more unfortunate, the child from such a pregnancy will usually be very dark and hairy.  Almost like an ape-man.

A Ukrainian business associate of mine told that such happened to a woman in his city.  The woman quickly sent the child away to live with farm relatives in the country side.

But even there, neighbors started to gossip about the woman's involvement with anal sex which brought shame to the relatives.

However, they were able to regain family pride when they explained that the woman had not participated in anal sex; but rather she had been raped by a gorilla at the zoo.

[SANDRO43]

Sandro, what do you usually pay for such service in Italy? And, in your world travels, what has been the rate in other countries?
My company will allow for such on expense reports, provided the costs meet the criteria of:  "customary and usual for the country."

ManLooking, I'm referring to FSUW hookers, like for instance those on:

http://moscow.dosug24.ru/list.php?g=%C4%E5%E2%F3%F8%EA%E8

If you look at their Услуги column, you'll see that several list Анал there. On some other sites, this service is specifically listed as extra-priced.

Can't answer from direct personal experiences, I've never been a client, either in Italy or elsewhere - yet .

[Ranetka]

Stirlitz, in Ukraine, as you know, this is due to the Babushka information network.

According to Babushka network, anal sex could lead to activation of the A-spot (as distinct from the G-spot) and pregnancy could result.

And, even more unfortunate, the child from such a pregnancy will usually be very dark and hairy.  Almost like an ape-man.

A Ukrainian business associate of mine told that such happened to a woman in his city.  The woman quickly sent the child away to live with farm relatives in the country side.

But even there, neighbors started to gossip about the woman's involvement with anal sex which brought shame to the relatives.

However, they were able to regain family pride when they explained that the woman had not participated in anal sex; but rather she had been raped by a gorilla at the zoo.

Your business associate was taking a micky out of you (laughed at silly Americanski who was ready to beleive any rubbish about Ukraine).

[ML]

Your business associate was taking a micky out of you (laughed at silly Americanski who was ready to beleive any rubbish about Ukraine).

I can tell you that this business associate is a highly reliable and trustworthy man.  He in fact told me several times that he would never lie to me or try to cheat me.  And he goes to church quite regularly.

I think you are trying to cast a bad light on my Ukrainian business associate and owe him an apology.

[groovlstk]

I think you are trying to cast a bad light on my Ukrainian business associate and owe him an apology.

Why would you expect an apology after such an insulting and ridiculous story?

I knew a Ukrainian boxer in Dnepropetrovsk, he kept an apartment in Brooklyn for when he was training here, and he once commented to me, while shaking his head sadly, that "all Americans believe we live in grass huts over here." It's no wonder.

[Ranetka]

I can tell you that this business associate is a highly reliable and trustworthy man.  He in fact told me several times that he would never lie to me or try to cheat me.  And he goes to church quite regularly.

I think you are trying to cast a bad light on my Ukrainian business associate and owe him an apology.

I think you owe an apology to Ukrainian population for beleiving people are so stupid there.