It appears you have not registered with our community. To register please click here ...

!!

Welcome to Russian Women Discussion - the most informative site for all things related to serious long-term relationships and marriage to a partner from the Former Soviet Union countries!

Please register (it's free!) to gain full access to the many features and benefits of the site. Welcome!

+-

Author Topic: What is a One Week Wonder?  (Read 14519 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Markus

  • Opted-Out
  • ***
  • Posts: 369
  • Gender: Male
What is a One Week Wonder?
« on: April 09, 2010, 04:03:18 PM »
If you look up OWW in the glossary on this site, OWW is a One Week Wonder. I see people use this term and wonder if they really know what a OWW wonder is.
We have the definition of a OWW, which means One Week Wonder, but what is the definition of a "One Week Wonder?"

Offline SomeGuy

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 76
  • Gender: Male
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2010, 04:43:31 PM »
I'll give it a shot.  Someone else's definition may vary.  It may or may not be seen as negative, depending on whom you ask, but it's someone who meets online, is "in love," goes to visit his pen pal for one trip, which happens to often be for a week to 9 days, and proposes during that time, followed by K1 (or K3) or equivalent paperwork.


Offline Markus

  • Opted-Out
  • ***
  • Posts: 369
  • Gender: Male
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2010, 04:58:58 PM »
What about the time for a K1? Is that included in the definition?

Offline CanadaMan

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 977
  • Country: 00
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: No Selection
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2010, 05:15:59 PM »
What about the time for a K1? Is that included in the definition?

Can't be. K1's take about 9 months.
That would be a NMW.

Offline Markus

  • Opted-Out
  • ***
  • Posts: 369
  • Gender: Male
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2010, 05:44:01 PM »
Can't be. K1's take about 9 months.
That would be a NMW.


Your response is interesting since we are dealing with that term "One Week." Perhaps we can narrow the definition down to one week. But, since the K1 takes many months, let's not forget the time frame of what needs to take place before a K3 can begin.

Offline Seeker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1037
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married > 10 years
  • Trips: 4 - 10
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2010, 05:55:18 PM »
Your response is interesting since we are dealing with that term "One Week." Perhaps we can narrow the definition down to one week. But, since the K1 takes many months, let's not forget the time frame of what needs to take place before a K3 can begin.

Just a random thought...

Maybe it means one week to jump over the cliff (and feel committed to the person) and hope for the best?

Or one week to find out "I wonder what I was thinking when I decided to do this?"

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." - Robert A. Heinlein

Offline SANDRO43

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10687
  • Country: it
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: None (yet)
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 06:04:11 PM »
I've amended the Glossary definition to read:

OWW: One-Week Wonder, a WM proposing marriage to an FSUW during their first face-to-face meeting (often lasting about 1 week)
Milan's "Duomo"

Offline KenC

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6000
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Married 0-2 years
  • Trips: No Selection
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2010, 06:44:59 PM »
I've amended the Glossary definition to read:

OWW: One-Week Wonder, a WM proposing marriage to an FSUW during their first face-to-face meeting (often lasting about 1 week)
As the person who coined the phrase, I agree with this definition.
KenC
You are a den of vipers and thieves-Andrew Jackson on banks
Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies-Thomas Jefferson

Offline Markus

  • Opted-Out
  • ***
  • Posts: 369
  • Gender: Male
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2010, 07:02:02 PM »
I've amended the Glossary definition to read:

OWW: One-Week Wonder, a WM proposing marriage to an FSUW during their first face-to-face meeting (often lasting about 1 week)

I'm surprised with your words. I thought there would be a video. But, IMO, you have a BINGO on your definition. But, not all folks who use this term would agree with you. Is there more to this definition?

Offline Markus

  • Opted-Out
  • ***
  • Posts: 369
  • Gender: Male
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 07:06:23 PM »
As the person who coined the phrase, I agree with this definition.
KenC

Kenc, you definitely coined the phrase. But, you told me later that I was not a real OWW because I waited so long to get married. Are you changing your original thoughts?

Offline SomeGuy

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 76
  • Gender: Male
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2010, 07:11:14 PM »
I've amended the Glossary definition to read:

OWW: One-Week Wonder, a WM proposing marriage to an FSUW during their first face-to-face meeting (often lasting about 1 week)

Perfect.   :thumbsup:  I knew someone would have some better wording. :)

Markus - from this sites marriage report, it's mentioned as:
"One-Week-Wonder (OWW) marriages (courtship of 2 weeks or less)"
http://www.goodwife.com/survey/xcultural_p07.html

I'd like to see someone who manages the K1 or K3 in a week. ;)

Basically, I always mean it to not be explicit on the number of days (although it often is 'around a week' of face time), but simply something that happens very fast by most standards, with respect to the amount of time spent in person.  It has apparently worked for some, while others prefer more in person time.


Offline Markus

  • Opted-Out
  • ***
  • Posts: 369
  • Gender: Male
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2010, 07:16:38 PM »
Perfect.   :thumbsup:  I knew someone would have some better wording. :)

Markus - from this sites marriage report, it's mentioned as:
"One-Week-Wonder (OWW) marriages (courtship of 2 weeks or less)"
http://www.goodwife.com/survey/xcultural_p07.html

I'd like to see someone who manages the K1 or K3 in a week. ;)

Basically, I always mean it to not be explicit on the number of days (although it often is 'around a week' of face time), but simply something that happens very fast by most standards, with respect to the amount of time spent in person.  It has apparently worked for some, while others prefer more in person time.


You bring up a good point, which opposes the previous definition.  What does (courtship of 2 weeks or less) mean? Folks have not been taking into consideration the red tape involved in proposing and getting married in 1 week. By definition of the rules, it's impossible.


Offline SANDRO43

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10687
  • Country: it
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: None (yet)
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2010, 07:17:54 PM »
I'm surprised with your words. I thought there would be a video.
Is a picture acceptable in lieu of ;D?

BTW, y'all be careful with what you write here, we rank 4th on Google on OWW  :D.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 07:20:12 PM by SANDRO43 »
Milan's "Duomo"

Offline Daveman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5589
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Ukraine
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: > 10
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2010, 07:36:04 PM »
From my perspective, the OWW moniker belongs to those who follow a path such as what I stated in another thread from a while back related to "methods of learning"

"... One Week Idiots who actually do spend a week with a woman, have some kind of penilary vaginalistic compatibility, run home and file the K-1, get married (to strangers), and wake from the dream to discover the nightmare of Dante's Special Circle for Fools, Idiots, and Other Moronic Entities... "

But, on second thought, those would be the One Week Idiots.. or OWI's, the OWW's would be the ones who got lucky and just happened to also be compatible with a woman not only chosen in a one week visit, but married, etc... and are still "happily" together some years later, after they can communicate, etc... THAT's a real wonder...

I still think the OWW moniker for Markus (when he wore it) was a misnomer. 

The duty of a true patriot is to protect his country from its government. -- Thomas Paine

Offline Maxx2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3384
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: 4 - 10
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2010, 11:20:27 PM »
A story of a true WONDER

I know guy who got engaged before he met his fiancee. Came to Russia and met his fiancee and together they went to the Ministry of Foreign affairs and got the documentation ready. The marriage at ZAGs happened a week later after her parents bribed the official(s) to wave the 30 day wait period. Something about a hardship as he only got 2 weeks of vacation a year. His employer wrote him a letter for them. Then after a week honeymoon they went to the the US embassy and did a Direct Counsellor Filing. She arrived to the US in about 4 weeks. About 6 weeks after that she was pregnant. So from first meeting till she was his pregnant wife in the US, 3 months. I met her and her newborn son in Russia when they were on a visit. She asked me if I thought she should convert from Orthodox to Baptist as he husband thought it necessary for her eternal salvation. I told her "No". They were the couple who took in my ex wife after our marriage ended.

Offline KenC

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6000
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Married 0-2 years
  • Trips: No Selection
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2010, 01:32:56 AM »
Kenc, you definitely coined the phrase. But, you told me later that I was not a real OWW because I waited so long to get married. Are you changing your original thoughts?
Not really as it WAS appropriate for the facts you offered at the time.
KenC
You are a den of vipers and thieves-Andrew Jackson on banks
Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies-Thomas Jefferson

Offline kievstar

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1875
  • Gender: Male
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2010, 07:17:19 AM »
This is a one week wonder for me.  Based on good friend of my wife.

AM goes on a tour in Ukraine (not writing or meeting any women before tour) and meets one woman and gets married in Ukraine all in one week.  Happily married several years later and currently.   K-3 visa they did.  They had a big wedding in Ukraine as well.  How they pulled this off in 5 days is amazing.  Included getting all the proper paperwork needed for K-3 including divorce decrees from USA etc. 

However, I think other people include people who get married or engaged in first week of meeting face to face.

Offline Markus

  • Opted-Out
  • ***
  • Posts: 369
  • Gender: Male
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2010, 09:43:49 AM »
What I am trying to understand is when folks use the OWW term or read about it, does it imply that the couple got married in the first week? I'm not sure about Ukraine but in Russia one must
go to Moscow to the U.S. Embassy and then the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, where a 7-day waiting period for the approval takes place. If they offer the expedited service that waiting period can be decreased. Next, the couple must obtain approval for marriage in her city where a 32-day period takes place. So, by definition, getting married in the 1st week could be extremely difficult and may not even be possible. I guess if the process began on day 1 that would give more time. Keep in mind, a man would have to plan in his mind to marry her before he met her and have all the necessary paperwork with him. I don't know of any man who preplanned that good (or bad).

So does a OWW refer only to the proposal during the 1st week or include the marriage time, all happening in the 1st week?

Offline Jack

  • Commercial Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2586
  • Country: cl
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: > 10
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2010, 09:56:13 AM »
Markus the one week wonder is "usually" a guy who wrote one Russian/Ukraine women, went to visit this one Russian/Ukraine women and during this meeting he asked her to marry him.  Many times the one week wonder will ask the woman to marry him on the second, third day of there meeting.  Many one week wonders meet a type of Russian/Ukraine woman that they could NEVER meet, NEVER marry, in an American woman. If he can marry this woman he has cheated the existing US system, he has found a beautiful model type woman he could only dream of, he must ask her if she will marry him now before some other foreign man does.

The one week wonder has to get in line with everyone else as to actually getting married. If he wants to marry in USA it will be about a 6 month process to get her to the states. If he wants to marry her in Ukraine he is suppose to live in country for x number of days, I think it's 90 days but almost no one does. A little bribe at the local OVIR (police department) and you will get documents that allow you to marry. So, it is possible for a one week wonder to actually get married in Ukraine within a week or two of meeting.  In Russia one is suppose to live in country for 6 months before he can marry there, but just as with Ukraine, if you know who to pay, you can be married in a week.  But just because the one week wonder is now married, in either Ukraine or Russia, now he must go through the American process of the K-3, and this time frame to get her in the states can vary greatly from 3 to 9 months.

Offline Turboguy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6553
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married > 10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2010, 11:46:18 AM »
I am sure everyone can interpret a term differently.  I think the way I always interpreted the term includes one thing that has not been mentioned here. 

To me a one week wonder is someone who makes one trip to the FSU usually for a week or less, proposes to the woman, starts the K-1 process and the next time he lays eyes on her is when she walks off the plane.   The last part of that sentence is what I have not seen mentioned.   To me a man who goes for a week and then makes a number of trips to get to know her while the visa is in progress was not what I considered as a one week wonder.  K-1 visas can be canceled.  I am sure others may have taken the term differently and to each his own.   I think all of the definitions anyone would have involve a man proposing to a woman he does not know well. 

Offline Makkin

  • Opted-Out
  • ***
  • Posts: 718
  • Gender: Male
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2010, 01:45:43 PM »


   OWW.....A man who asks for marriage during the first short period of actually meeting a woman for the first time. A woman who actually says yes. Is there a combined process word that could be called something plural because both of these people who are getting married are making the same decision as an original OWW?

FUBAR

Offline wiz

  • Alt Forum
  • *****
  • Posts: 1012
  • Country: gr
  • Gender: Male
  • Born in Greece living in England
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2010, 06:37:21 AM »


"... One Week Idiots WONDER who actually do spend a week with a woman, have some kind of penilary vaginalistic compatibility, run home and file the K-1, get married (to strangers), and wake from the dream to discover the nightmare of Dante's Special Circle for Fools, Idiots, and Other Moronic Entities... "

I think this is the mope accurate description of the ONE WEEK WONDER.

Well said Daveman!  :clapping:

Offline rambler

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 121
  • Country: fr
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married 3-5 years
  • Trips: 4 - 10
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2010, 02:33:17 PM »
Well I can see that it seems to be a high risk thing to do. But looking back at myself in my teens and twenties I can recall two relationships where we met & moved in together for a 4 and a 7 year period all in 2 days and a week respectively.  No questions asked no answers given - They were both wonderful beautiful and intelligent young women. No I shouldn't have just moved in with them on a whim, I should have married and sprogged.   Sometimes you have to trust that first impression and just go for it. 

R
Woman: "How do you write women so well?" Melvin: "I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability." Jack Nicholson in As Good as it Gets, 1997.

Offline Seeker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1037
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married > 10 years
  • Trips: 4 - 10
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2010, 02:42:37 PM »
Well I can see that it seems to be a high risk thing to do. But looking back at myself in my teens and twenties I can recall two relationships where we met & moved in together for a 4 and a 7 year period all in 2 days and a week respectively.  No questions asked no answers given - They were both wonderful beautiful and intelligent young women. No I shouldn't have just moved in with them on a whim, I should have married and sprogged.   Sometimes you have to trust that first impression and just go for it. 

R

Sounds like we have a similar past... I did the same thing, three times.  No regrets in any of them.  Just followed my heart and my instincts.
"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." - Robert A. Heinlein

Offline kievstar

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1875
  • Gender: Male
Re: What is a One Week Wonder?
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2010, 07:36:50 PM »
Some people know right away.  I knew I was going to marry my wife within 1st meeting.  Others take more time. 

 

+-RWD Stats

Members
Total Members: 8892
Latest: csmdbr
New This Month: 3
New This Week: 0
New Today: 0
Stats
Total Posts: 546647
Total Topics: 21001
Most Online Today: 3565
Most Online Ever: 194418
(June 04, 2025, 03:26:40 PM)
Users Online
Members: 8
Guests: 3553
Total: 3561

+-Recent Posts

Your ace in the hole by 2tallbill
Today at 01:35:27 AM

Re: Presentation Côme by Trenchcoat
Yesterday at 04:56:20 PM

Re: Your ace in the hole by Trenchcoat
Yesterday at 04:31:15 PM

Re: New Guy Questions by Trenchcoat
Yesterday at 04:26:46 PM

Presentation Côme by csm
Yesterday at 04:02:10 PM

Re: Trippin in St Pete by olgac
Yesterday at 01:28:18 PM

Trippin in South Padre Island by 2tallbill
Yesterday at 01:19:43 PM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by Trenchcoat
Yesterday at 12:16:08 PM

Re: A look into the future of life in the West by Trenchcoat
Yesterday at 11:46:00 AM

Re: A look into the future of life in the West by Trenchcoat
Yesterday at 11:27:03 AM

Powered by EzPortal