Life Changes...Part Deux

[ML]

I would certainly believe an FSU mother telling her daughter that her fiancee or *man* maybe cheating ,or is cheating, as that is *what men do*,and an higher level of  acceptance of this. I have seen this mentality many times.

I have heard the same from many 40 something FSU women.
And they do accept it, even if not liking it.
The one condition is that the man still take care of the family and put it number one; failing this, the woman seeks a divorce.

[ML]

It's a bit amusing that  page 69  is the page billy opens up to mom about his favorite positions in sex.

I pointed out to one FSU gal that this was called 69 in USA.

A day or so later, she mentioned wanting to do the 96 again.

When I pointed out to her how the 96 would work (or not) . . . we both got a big laugh.

[Ade]

What sort of women are you guys meeting? I mean seriously. My wife would have none of that and just shakes her head when I read her this stuff. Perhaps they are just not so desperate or accepting in the North.

If what Billy says is true and not some weird delusion (and that's a big IF), A's mother is a kook and has probably screwed around with her daughters head so much that it's no wonder she's looking at marrying a pudgy, balding 40-something control freak.

[Faux Pas]

What sort of women are you guys meeting? I mean seriously. My wife would have none of that and just shakes her head when I read her this stuff. Perhaps they are just not so desperate or accepting in the North.

If what Billy says is true and not some weird delusion (and that's a big IF), A's mother is a kook and has probably screwed around with her daughters head so much that it's no wonder she's looking at marrying a pudgy, balding 40-something control freak.

+1

[BC]

Best left unsaid.   
 
 
Better yet, you should have stopped Mama with a comment such as, "Mama, thank you but let us not go there.  A and I will be fine.  We will discover together the joy of sex."
 
Seriously, what's next?  Mama telling you what you should do to A? 
 
You are sounding just like Albert and you are reinforcing the opinion of some RWD readers that this is all about BillyB.   I attribute that  to raging hormones.   I suggest you relieve yourself just before posting at RWD. 
 
Sounds like physical relief rather than love.  What do you do now without a wife?  Do you masturbate every morning so you can perform better at work?   Or do you relieve yourself at the job site behind a bulldozer?

Yeah.. definitely TMI.

I was wondering if the spit, swallow, smear or swap discussion with mom will be fully 'covered' in his next posts.  Certainly valuable information for any RW seeker preparing to meet the future MIL.

I also heard CNN will provide live coverage of Billy unfurling their bloody wedding sheets atop the Space Needle...  Go RWD!!~

[Jumper]

What sort of women are you guys meeting? I mean seriously. My wife would have none of that and just shakes her head when I read her this stuff. Perhaps they are just not so desperate or accepting in the North.

If what Billy says is true and not some weird delusion (and that's a big IF), A's mother is a kook and has probably screwed around with her daughters head so much that it's no wonder she's looking at marrying a pudgy, balding 40-something control freak.

Ade
as one of the men who mentioned this perceived *acceptence*
I'll clarify, no woman I met , dated,or married,
 shared this acceptence or view!
 
  However some of thier mothers did, and that acceptence  seems  more common in that culture than some others.
(and probably less than others as well?)
 
My wife certainly would not tolerate such, and would understandibly no longer respect me if I betrayed our vows.
 
I suppose its conceivable we might work through such a betrayal of trust, yet there would be no predespossed acceptence (and I highly doubt anything could be resolved)
 
 
The irony ,to me, in billys statement, is the prior stress he puts  on a woman respecting her man,
 however what if the man doesn't deserve such level of respect? or what level does the woman with that acceptence  start any man she would marry out on?
(not a statement about *A* or A's mother, simply any woman accepting of such)
 
If a woman feels from the very start that her man  doesn't posses the integrity and ethics to honour a mutually agreed upon and established exclusive relationship, then i'd certainly question what bar she would be  setting ,that is really deserved of respect.
 
 
If both agree it is an open relationship, thats a completely different story.
 
 
Of course,Ade,  you do completely understand that any thoughts or opinion I have are invalid ,
from the very fact I somehow  have internet time to post it.
 
 

[Jumper]

Yeah.. definitely TMI.

I was wondering if the spit, swallow,  or gargle (sorry BC:my edit for a punchline)discussion with mom will be fully 'covered' in his next posts.  Certainly valuable information for any RW seeker preparing to meet the future MIL.

I also heard CNN will provide live coverage of Billy unfurling their bloody wedding sheets atop the Space Needle...  Go RWD!!~

Well, BC-
In such a frank open conversation,
 I would hope they at least discussed the difference between
 love, true love ,and just showing off
 
 
 
 
I don't find it TMI on billys part ,compared to any other of his posts.
 
If he had the discussions with her mother, which he has alluded to throughout the thread, then if he wants to openly show how she thinks ,and how it relates to his relationship.. why not.
 
 
 I find her mother so openly discussing sex with billy odd,
but  seems strangely in line with most of her actions concerning the relationship.
 
 
Maybe she was just hitting on you as a test billy...
 
 

[ML]

Maybe she was just hitting on you as a test billy...

Young man about to marry is invited to parent's house to discuss plans with her mother.

After short talk, mother tells young man she wants to take him to bedroom  to see if he is worthy of the daughter.  She heads up the stairs and tells young man to come up as soon as he has decided.

Young man exits house and goes to his car where he sees her father waiting for him.

Good choice the father says.  We were testing you to see if you could easily be unfaithful to our daughter.

Later young man tells his buddies.  Actually, I was going out to car to get condom.

[Muzh]

If what Billy says is true and not some weird delusion (and that's a big IF), A's mother is a kook and has probably screwed around with her daughters head so much that it's no wonder she's looking at marrying a pudgy, balding 40-something control freak.

Funny that you say this. My mother-in-law is visiting us and you know I was going to ask my wife to ask her mother. 
 
The change of colors, the expression of disbelief/horror, watching a very old woman take a flight of stairs UP in 0.01 seconds..., Priceless.
 
My wife is a doctor. This is the first time she insisted to read such nonsense because she said this time I was making this up. The hysterical laughter.., Priceless.
 
Should I go on?
 
I don't think Billly bob will appreciate what my wife and her mother think what his future MIL is...., IF SHE REALLY SAID THAT!!
 
Edit to eliminate a double negative. Must be Billy's influence.

[Ranetka]

I can only hope BillyB will report on the progress of educating his young bride as deliberately as he is now reporting on educatoinal plans.
 
It will certainly be even more educational entertaining.

[GQBlues]

Sheessh!
 
You folks will be better served starting a collection fund for their wedding present instead of ridiculing the topic.
 
If you're out of ideas what the perfect present will be, then let me give you one. How about a couple of sonic toothbrushes with a year supply of semen tubes to at least make sure they'll maintain healthy teeth? I just don't know which of you want to do the actual collection, shipping and handling. Any volunteer?
 
Maybe BC (    )? He can then stamp the labels...."Made in Italy"

[Muzh]

If you're out of ideas what the perfect present will be, then let me give you one. How about a couple of sonic toothbrushes with a year supply of semen tubes to at least make sure they'll maintain healthy teeth?
 

Does it has to be MIL tested and approved?

[GQBlues]

Does it has to be MIL tested and approved?

Dang, forgot about that. Yes...we just have to find out where to send samples and how much....
 
This got my entrepreneurial cap churning now....I need to get a prototype made of a 'toothpick dispensers' but large enough to actually dispense of Q-tips instead of toothpicks. I have a feeling a new age approach to healthy teeth will soon be announced. It'll have to be decorative enough so they can be shown as a nice bathroom accessory along with dental care items like condoms...

[BC]

Maybe BC (    )? He can then stamp the labels...."Made in Italy"

I doubt my wife would share.  Her favorite flavor is melone.

[GQBlues]

I doubt my wife would share.  Her favorite flavor is melone.

I actually heard a lot of great reviews about celery and cilantro myself. So melons, cilantro and celery can be good flavors. How about mint? Is it too common and over-used?

[acrzybear]

Wow, That was uummm different  .  Did mom take a ride on the BillyB express in order to make sure her daughter is with the  right man?     

[Faux Pas]

Wow, That was uummm different  .  Did mom take a ride on the BillyB express in order to make sure her daughter is with the  right man? 

I just assumed. How else could she get the ball tickle technique and the BJ instruction down enough to teach it? 

[acrzybear]

I just assumed. How else could she get the ball tickle technique and the BJ instruction down enough to teach it? 

The new and improved anatomically correct tickle me Billy doll.

[Faux Pas]

The new and improved anatomically correct tickle me Billy doll.

You must not know who you're talking about? He's the MAN, he doesn't play with dolls 

[acrzybear]

You must not know who you're talking about? He's the MAN, he doesn't play with dolls 

Sorry about that, I meant "action figure"

[Muzh]

Sorry about that, I meant "action figure"

LMFAO


+10

[BillyB]

Best left unsaid. 
 
 Better yet, you should have stopped Mama with a comment such as, "Mama, thank you but let us not go there.  A and I will be fine.  We will discover together the joy of sex."

I wanted to say something along those lines or nothing at all but mom was serious about the question. Because she's a doctor, some patients will talk about things in their life besides medical problems so she's used to hearing private/personal issues. Mom tells me Libyan ladies have told her that their husbands like to dress them up as prostitutes at home. Muslim men aren't as conservative as we thought!
 

Seriously, what's next?  Mama telling you what you should do to A? 
 

Mom was happy with what I told her so she didn't tell me what I should do to A but she did tell me if I have any problems with A, to call her and she will take care of it.
 

You are sounding just like Albert and you are reinforcing the opinion of some RWD readers that this is all about BillyB.   I attribute that  to raging hormones.   I suggest you relieve yourself just before posting at RWD. 
 

Albert talks to women much differntly than I. He has phone sex with them before meeting them. The ladies he attracts drop their panties in the first day or within hours of meeting him. I attract wife material girls. Only real similarities we have is probably we both enjoy sex.
 
I'm one of the very few men that can commit to marriage to a woman based off inner beauty alone, not sex but sex/intimancy is a very important part of a relationship. Although most people don't talk about it we know some have real problems in their relationships at this moment. I'm not making this thread out to be about BillyB. Some people with or without problems on this issue can read and get a few tips to their benefit, not mine. Even women can learn something. I'm sure there are one or two RW out there that will get over their shyness and please their man by grabbing their man's balls(not too hard) next time they're intimate.
 

Boy, do you really believe any of this, Billy? I'm starting to wonder if there is such an A. Too many fantasies such as the above.

I dated plenty of RW and they talk about sex much more openly than I. Sometime they tell me to loosen up about the subject. It's not that I don't know much about it but I have a policy not to talk about other women in my life because sometimes that is where the conversation heads to.
 
There is no fantasy here. What I've written in this thread happens in my life. Some of the RW I've dated in the past have jumped into the shower with me and grabbed my package and played with it after a wonderful love session. Do you think that is fantasy too? I suspect these things don't happen to every man and that is sad.
 

Perhaps billy should have asked mom, if she believes he should be equally accepting of any current or future infidelity of any fiance or wife, , as after all its just nature taking its course.If she answered yes, I would find her views at least more balanced,and more realistic,but hardly a good foundation to truly believe the fundamental vows taken are some how just more of a guideline, like a silly humorous *pirates code*,because
after all they are pirates.Its what they do.

A man's health is more important than infidelity and overides it according to mom. She believes if a man doesn't use it, he will lose it and masturbation is not the same as real sex. Besides losing the ability to get it up, if a man goes without real sex for say 5 years and although his equipment still works he will have lost the ability to make quality love to a woman just because he's rusty. If a woman dated a man who has not had sex in 10 years, I believe she will be more worried than thrilled that he's saving himself for his one and only.
 
Infidelity is a choice people make. Most think it's wrong but they do have periods of weakness through temptation or neglect by their partner. There are different moral views when it comes to sex outside a relationship. Some people don't believe in any sex even when their single. Remember these two polls?
 
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=10790.0
 
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg211478#msg211478
 

It's a bit amusing that  page 69  is the page billy opens up to mom about his favorite positions in sex.

I forgot to tell mom I liked 69. I'll tell her in my next call. Seriously, what are you doing thinking about 69 Jumper? Your brain must be in the gutter. lol
 

The irony ,to me, in billys statement, is the prior stress he puts  on a woman respecting her man,
 however what if the man doesn't deserve such level of respect? or what level does the woman with that acceptence  start any man she would marry out on?
(not a statement about *A* or A's mother, simply any woman accepting of such)
 
If a woman feels from the very start that her man  doesn't posses the integrity and ethics to honour a mutually agreed upon and established exclusive relationship, then i'd certainly question what bar she would be  setting ,that is really deserved of respect.

I've talked to A about infidelity and of course she doesn't want me to do it and if I did, she would forgive me and feel that she is partially to blame. One reason I'm not worried about A being inexperienced is because she has a strong desire to please me. I told her from what I've seen so far about her, I am coming home to her every night and not to worry. I won't have much temptation either. Usually the girls working construction are manly girls.
 

Maybe she was just hitting on you as a test billy...

I'm good at reading women, their body language and talk. A's mom really likes me and thinks I'm a real man. If it weren't for A, I'm sure mom would accept a date with me if I asked. Even mom's friends have enjoyed meeting and talking with me. I've done well with older ladies in the past.
 

I don't think Billly bob will appreciate what my wife and her mother think what his future MIL is...., IF SHE REALLY SAID THAT!!
 

If I was worried about what people think, this thread wouldn't be 70 pages. Maybe I should start posting the photos of the other ladies I've dated and see how much people will laugh. Most newbies here reading would love to have a chance to date just one beautiful woman with good manners let alone marry her. Ask your wife to read the whole thread instead of you selectively reading it to her. Ade who reads to his wife too can do the same. I know how a story gets twisted when it travels mouth to mouth.
 

He's the MAN, he doesn't play with dolls 

Real men do play with dolls, real dolls, not action figures.
 
 

[mies]

 
If I was worried about what people think,

For one, you may want to worry what one specific person thinks. That is A's mom. Some forms of mental disorders run in the family. Others can be nurtured. You do understand that mom's behavior is well beyond of what is considered "conventional" or "normal," don't you?
On the other hand.... what do I know. Maybe you want to have a beautiful AND crazy wife.

[Ade]

Ask your wife to read the whole thread instead of you selectively reading it to her. Ade who reads to his wife too can do the same. I know how a story gets twisted when it travels mouth to mouth.

Oh, I am far from selective on the "interesting bits" and what's more, she has her own account here and can read your posts herself if and when she wants to. I will admit that I don't read everything you write to my wife though; I mean, seriously, do you want me to send her to sleep?

And talking of balls; I'm wondering if you'll ever get some and point A towards this forum so she can get her own account to join in the "fun".

[Nat]

I'm sure there are one or two RW out there that will get over their shyness and please their man by grabbing their man's balls(not too hard) next time they're intimate.

LOL, now that totally made my day 
Although I do have some doubts on your advice, Billy Isn't it unsafe to grab moving parts during the process? I would hate to get my man castrated