Respectfully request opinions...

[BillyB]

didn't you just say she is a scammer? or is she not?
it amuses me to no end how people try to protect others from everything - sorrow and happiness  

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Based on seraphimangel latest revalation, she is a scammer. No question about it. AWeb is a scam agency and their workers work the scam. RW #3 may actually like seraphimangel. Scammers need love in their lives too but it doesn't make them a good person because they actually care for one person in their lives. Mies, make no mistake, those young 20 year old women are paid to write for hours to men they have no interest in and feed the man what he wants to hear. They know what they are doing and they do it for the money and additional perks.

If you want to tell seraphimangel and other men like him to find love with video chat girls, at least warn him that they may have serious character flaws.

[Gylden]

 

Billy,
You got to be kidding me, I went to that link and I am still laughing!!

Anyone stupid enough to fall for that one....well IMO deserves what he gets!!

I honestly think that sometimes people here are trying to sensationalise any and everything.

I honestly don't think that this whole process is all that complicated. The secret is.....you got to go to the FSU.

[GQBlues]

A lot of good insightful posts, AJ/mies. 



Seraphimangel does the handle denote 'a fairy from the City of Angels'?
 

[seraphimangel]

Well, don't get me wrong.  I have always had a sense of cynicism with regards to AW.  I had an account with them for like a year before I actually bought in.  

I had read about scams and such and have had close to 500 credits refunded to me over time.  I don't answer unsolicited contacts.  I don't talk to girls who don't send me non-photoshopped photos within 2 letters.  

I learned after a handful of letters that the first letter is crap, too.  

I became really cynical with the first girl I like because she claimed to be a writer for some ukrainian glamour magazine.  (this was like 4 months ago)... i responded with a request to see her work... she refused, became insulted and went away...

There was another girl .. in odessa originally from Izmael who was only studying in Odessa.. who spoke well with me... but sent me a letter eventually telling me she found a ukrainian boyfriend and that she didnt want to lie to me and continue our "courting"... she said when I was in odessa, to call her and she'd be happy to have breakfast with me if I still wanted to be "just friends".. i thought this a noble gesture. She disappeared for 2 months and then said she was sorry for her last letter, understands if I found someone else.  She said that she was having issues with her last agency, was switching agencies and that they sent the last letter out of spite.  WTF???

Told me to contact her via her email or to send her real corr. (i have her real addy info)...

I've kind of seen some of the practices on AW.  I'm wary, it's just that girl #3.. seems very unique to me. Plus, she has taken herself off of AW actually, when she asked me to leave, she did as well.  I made a fake profile and it says this user does not wish to be contacted. I figure this means something.  

[seraphimangel]

Off topic.

a Seraphim is part of the first order of angels of God. It has a very unique set of wings on it and is consider a warrior and protector of God.

I do MMA for fun and have a tattoo of such on my upper back.  I like to steer my life toward what is righteous, no matter if I get hurt, at least I did what I thought was right.

[mies]

Off topic.

a Seraphim is part of the first order of angels of God. It has a very unique set of wings on it and is consider a warrior and protector of God.

It's not very common, but is also used as a name (male or female) in Russia. For example - this 29yo Russian actress - Serafima Nizovskaya.

[Gylden]

Well looks like you were just kidding about Cancun.....
OH well maybe next time!

Really funny too, I was training in MMA a bit when I was living in Santa Barbara. But that was a long time ago!!!

[seraphimangel]

In spanish there is also an uncommon name Serafina, which is my aunt's name.  This is where I first heard the term.

And, Cancun is still a possibility mid summer.  You interested Gyld? Call me cheap, but I love those all-inclusive resorts.  They make getting shlittzed funny.  Though apparently, according to my Russian friend, I'm not a drinker either now =( I drank like 11 rounds last night. She noted she doesn't drink more than 1 drink, if she does at all.

<<<--- Hooray, I just got a star! LOL.

[mies]

And, Cancun is still a possibility mid summer.  You interested Gyld? Call me cheap, but I love those all-inclusive resorts.  They make getting shlittzed funny.  Though apparently, according to my Russian friend, I'm not a drinker either now =(

maybe she can be your "personal trainer" to compensate for loss of drinking right.....  :evil:

[seraphimangel]

I dated my personal trainer, it never works out well.  *rim shot*... get it.. works out... training... works.. ahhh forget it.

[Gylden]

YUCATAN!!
You bet I'm interested, but Cancun IMO is just the biggest tourist trap.
Have you been to Tulum, it is about an hours drive from Cancun? It's great and pretty laid back. There is a resort within walking distance from my friends house and I love to eat breakfast with the local workers there as I am an early riser, they have their own little cantina outside of the gates to the resort. (used to be the "Club Med??) There is also a restaurant next door called Casa Cenote, you can see pictures online and if you are into diving, those cenotes are the best!! Like I said I normally don't go until winter, but I haven't been anywhere since Sept. or Oct. and we had a long winter here. We should PM about the details.

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Casa+Cenote&rlz=1R2GPEA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=DkjsS8yQD9KnOP3cudcH&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CC8QsAQwAw

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=tulum&rlz=1R2GPEA_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

Don't worry about the girl, go and meet her and see where it goes, could be interesting!
 

[BillyB]

I honestly think that sometimes people here are trying to sensationalise any and everything.

I honestly don't think that this whole process is all that complicated. The secret is.....you got to go to the FSU.

The secret is to first find people in your life that give you no friction, no questions on who they are, put up no barriers, and no red flags. The more I read about what seraphimangel has learned, the more alarms go off.

I don't think anybody here is currently dating more RW than I. I got two dates today and one will be a first date. None of the ladies I am going out with have so many loose ends and red flags as what I see here.. Really, it doesn't have to be this tough to find a regular and decent gal that's not questionable.

If seraphimangel used a reputable agency/dating site, wrote to 500 women, had his choice of the cream of the crop, found a woman with a decent job and not so controlling and vulgar, he may not be here today with questions and we would not be so critical of some of the ladies he's communicating with.

Seph, once a guy here wanted opinions about marrying his escort RW. I told him she first needs to quit her job before proposing to her. People need to get certain things sorted out in their lives before building a good solid foundation for a relationship. You RW #3 needs to quit her job. It's not right she told you that you're her man while playing other men 8 hours a day feeding them BS and lies. She knows what she is doing. It should be easy for her to quit because she's got money, she doesn't make much money and she'll do what you want because she loves you. Somehow I think she's gets a lot more benefits at the job than she is telling. Ask her if she's required to date the men who do show up to visit her.

Cya in a few. I'm off to my lunch date.

[Gylden]

Billy,
If she is serious (and clever), she will never quit her job until he shows up to meet her. Otherwise she will think he is just another keyboard romeo, talking and talking.

[GQBlues]

I'm wary, it's just that girl #3.. seems very unique to me. Plus, she has taken herself off of AW actually, when she asked me to leave, she did as well.  I made a fake profile and it says this user does not wish to be contacted. I figure this means something.

In a lot of ways, you are right. But being unique could be stretching this a bit. I virtually met, and went on to meet, a young gorgeous blonde from Moscow with a body aching to be touched my first trip to Russia who did most if not all of what you told us here.

She was adamantly oppose to the notion of meeting/speaking with other men on the internet/agency, and she was openly against my meeting/speaking with other women. Further tells me this is why she disliked virtual meeting/romance/engagements. She held unto this state until the very momemnt I looked into her eyes and asked her directly and personally if she's met, meeting, will meet, had been speaking/writing to, etc...to other men.

She disdainly answered absolutely, empathically and resoundingly 'NO!'

Of course, the truth resides elsewhere and I know that for a fact. Knew it 2 weeks before I left for my trip. I only decided to meet her anyway because....

- She was calling me an average of 4-5 times/week. Moscow-LA, just to chat and say good night. She'll flash email me as a chat exchange because I had no time or patience to use ICQ. She's been in the US twice before, sent me a gift, she's a lone daughter of a well-to-do stock, etc... -

She at least deserved a chance to own up for herself. But unfortunately, same games, same faces just different places...

Being wary is a good thing. It sharpens your senses.

[SMS60]

I honestly don't think that this whole process is all that complicated. The secret is.....you got to go to the FSU.

You would think that but so is driving to the local singles bar. It looks like a lot of lost puppies posing as wall decorations.

[mies]

I dated my personal trainer, it never works out well.  *rim shot*... get it.. works out... training... works.. ahhh forget it.

read what I am saying: "v e r y  p e r s o n a l  t r a i n e r"  
it was a joke.. half-joke half serious....you said you are like humor... ahhh.... nevermind  

[mies]

I don't think anybody here is currently dating more RW than I.

 
Billy, you just gave me an extra year of life... priceless  
if in the dating quantity transforms at some point into quality .... I think I know which girls get the best men  


Don't you think you are going a BIT too far while comparing an accomplished athlete and student with an escort girl? This is very vulgar. How can you judge others' manners while you have to sort out few things for yourself first?

[seraphimangel]

So, I remember an episode of family guy where they make fun of the two guys who are almost american but are obviously not by the way they choose their words in english.. this is her latest email... it's F'in hilarious.

"I have quarrelled with  Y*** and now me at awful mood. This small sheep was ill starved fever, to me is awfully insulting, ready to kill her now. I have offered her to go June, 4 on small, but good dancing festival, she declares that it fully dung and does not want to go there! The idiot!"

Is it lame that I find the phrasing to be entirely adorable?

[mies]

Billy,
If she is serious (and clever), she will never quit her job until he shows up to meet her. Otherwise she will think he is just another keyboard romeo, talking and talking.

Billy isn't even talking about job. He thinks that being an AW member is a full-time escort job for this girl #3. I don't see what his insinuations are based upon. I do not even see that this girl is currently an AW member. OP may give us more information on this topic, but it looks like she isn't. What this fuzz is about?

[mies]

So, I remember an episode of family guy where they make fun of the two guys who are almost american but are obviously not by the way they choose their words in english.. this is her latest email... it's F'in hilarious.

"I have quarrelled with  Y*** and now me at awful mood. This small sheep was ill starved fever, to me is awfully insulting, ready to kill her now. I have offered her to go June, 4 on small, but good dancing festival, she declares that it fully dung and does not want to go there! The idiot!"

Is it lame that I find the phrasing to be entirely adorable?

Sheep, or hen - is the way younger women are addressed (impolitely) in Russian - by criminals and low-class/street talk - vulgar vocabulary of course. Men use these words to identify the women they don't like or want to offend. Can be used for girl or teenager. Sheep is more humiliating and derogatory. Common situation used: a guy hits on girl, the girl ignores him, the guy insulted of her reactions - calls her "hey you, sheep, your opinion of yourself is too high". Sometimes is used by females, in the same meaning. Also acceptable/common in the females athletes culture - especially swimming/volleyball etc. And in fashion industry/models.
Cow - is more commonly used for an adult woman, or an awkward person, or a chubby woman. Expresses negativity, but is relatively less derogatory.
Ill (if i guessed correctly what was the russian original of "ill starved fever") = "crazy", or "mentally retarded"

[Gylden]

Mies,
Billy seems to think that G#3 is a scammer, actually you know what it is all about and it is just nonsense, isn't it.

In my post to Billy I was trying to point it out.

These threads can be just hilarious, for example, like I was trying to point out earlier. The guy who sent 300 dollars to a girl from Anaesthesia (pun intended) after having almost no contact with a girl (whom he met) then a long sweet e-mail asking for money, him sending it and she disappears. Billy (and others say she didn't scam him).
Then Mr. angel shows up, with a contact from Anaesthesia and she has done nothing, just talk at this point and she is a scammer.

OK I understand that the whole idea is supposed to be to help people and (share stories), but IMO there is a lot of groping going on here.

[mies]

Mies,
Billy seems to think that G#3 is a scammer, actually you know what it is all about and it is just nonsense, isn't it.

In my post to Billy I was trying to point it out.

Gylden, I agree with you completely. My post wasn't a contradiction, more a discussion on the topic.

[Gylden]

   OK gotcha...LOL

[Shadow]

As the text you showed was translated by an online translator I decided to get the help of MrsShadow to check on the slang.

Her opinion: This is a total b*tch, who has a very strong opinion of herself. She wants to finish her education before going to the USA, meaning that in her future she wishes to be independent, and that you are not in it. Such a woman can kick you out at any moment if she feels she is ready.

Then some advise regarding your goofyness:
If you are supposed to look for a wife, they should know you are serious. By acting goofy you do not give that impression to them.

[Gylden]

LOL Shadow,
I think you are right, I think he should get some glasses like you. Maybe he has them!!