update in ukraine

[joey]

well, so far the trip has been pretty fun, candy-brides girls, 90% a scam and waste of time.

cities,
Kharkov, only there one day but nice
lugansk, lot of scammers, so far, all the scammers were from that city
Nikolave, nice city, some Americans there  playing making a bad name for serious guys.
Dnep, big city, would need more time there to get anything going,
Zap, untapped place, nice girls, don't know why more men don't go there.
Odessa, so far OK, but can tell the girls are hip to the foreigners here for sex, so a lot harder too met them.

[kievstar]

Thanks for the input can you expand on what the scammers are doing to be scammers. 

[BillyB]

well, so far the trip has been pretty fun, candy-brides girls, 90% a scam and waste of time.

cities,
Kharkov, only there one day but nice
lugansk, lot of scammers, so far, all the scammers were from that city
Nikolave, nice city, some Americans there  playing making a bad name for serious guys.
Dnep, big city, would need more time there to get anything going,
Zap, untapped place, nice girls, don't know why more men don't go there.
Odessa, so far OK, but can tell the girls are hip to the foreigners here for sex, so a lot harder too met them.

Hey Joey, looks like you've went all over the place. Hope you're going to write a trip report of your adventures. You knew candy-brides was a scam last month. I guess they were still a scam after you used their services? In what way? Were the ladies you went out with prodaters or insincere?

[SFandEE]

Busy schedule.

Of these cities I have been to Nikolaev and Odessa.  I understand what you are saying about Odessa, but I do know of some really sweet, intelligent, sincere women there.

I guess that is our challenge when we make the long trip is how to get to them.

Are you on your own in Odessa or using an agency?  Since Kharkov is such a large university city, I am surprised it was not better.  Maybe the time of year.  Are you sticking to women who speak adequate English or using interpreters?

[seraphimangel]

Question about Niko...

I hear horror stories after horror stories from american men, are you saying that it's the american idiots and, in fact, the women there are fine and not.. scamming or insincere?