is there life after thirty years? :)

[SFandEE]

The few men of whom I am aware that are including looking in Ukraine for a woman are not considering more children.   So age is independent of that consideration.

Age may be a concern for wanting a family, but 30 means many more years of opportunity, plus the emotional maturity to be a mother.  For those wanting to not wait too long to start a family maybe even ideal, depending if that is what you want now.

So it would seem to me that you are at an age that is ideal for the majority of men and that it would be unlikely that your age would get in the way of a sincere man considering a serious relationship with you.  You can have what you want, the trick will be finding him.

[mialia]

Don't worry Mialia, you'll be great at 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, etc and many foreign men will be interested in you.

thank you very kind of you

[mialia]

Yes there is life after 30.

But I grasp the point that for wanting children 30 seems to be the cut off point for many.

I am 35 and the majority of ladies I have corresponded with over 30 do not want children.

Those under 30 do, so I now limit my search to 25-30 unless the profile says they want children.

Obviously I want kids, so limiting my search makes sense for me.

tell me something
for example i was born 8 of April 1981, at 7.00 in the morning....
according to your limits - 8 of April 2011 at 7.01 i won't be healthy enough to carry the baby? ))))
what makes you sure that all 25 years old women are able to carry? it is soooooo personal, you should not look at age, but at the health condition   IMHO

[mialia]

I can't speak for women but based on who gets the most attention at dating site and marriage agencies, there is less life for women after 30. The young ones get the bulk of attention. A beautiful older woman gets lots of attention too. Beauty is very important for a woman and never ever let yourself not believe it. Good values attract good people but beauty will attract a lot of people so you can have a large group of guys to choose from.

For men it's different. I am much more a man now at 40 than when I was 30 and 20. I have less hair and my flat belly is gone but I can attract more women than ever. I still have decent looks and I am much more mature and behave well around women. I'm older but a more attractive male than when I was younger.

me too, i think that men become better with age  

[mialia]

My 2 cents. 

Your taste in men seems to be the more rugged and older man.  I don't see why you would have any problem finding a man at 30+. 

I think it's a matter of what you want.  At 32, still going dancing 3 times a week and going to a concert at least once a month.  I think I like a younger mindset.

I want someone who likes to go out very often and who doesn't think a walk in the park is good enough, but a person who wants lights, events and shows. 

I, still go to punk rock shows and come home bloody one night.  Then next night go Salsa dancing and enjoy that. 

I just don't see a 30+ person digging on my scene.  Most people in the U.S. who do enjoy my scene are in their early to mid 20s.  This works for me here, I just wouldn't imagine it would be different there. 

It should be of no consequence to you though, you want a more mature, rugged older man anyhow, and an older man shouldn't be trolling for 20s anyhow.  Unless all they want is an arm trophy, I'm more in line with looking for a partner in causing trouble =P

thanks for understanding me so well
 i do like people, who are older.. 38 years old man is the minimum in general, but sometimes i meet people who are at their 30th responsible and serious as at 40th.   so.... seems like when I'll turn thirty - it will be only for better, as i will get rid of those ones, who are looking for the trophy and will get more serious contingent )) mmmm... lovely ))

thanks, Seraphim, you are an angel

[mialia]

You made my day!
Should I start a thread about life after forty? 
Sorry, couldn't help laughing  . Mialia, этот камень не в твой огород.

I thought it's not a secret that our personality has nothing to do with our age. You may be old in 30 as well as someone is young in 50, isn't it obvious.
Ok, I'm 43, still don't think I'm old and yes still want to have one more baby with the right man. Life is wonderful and I'm looking forward to at least more 40 years of it 
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hello, Molly, glad you were laughing . I was laughing myself when i had this topic started.   i have exactly the same opinion with you in the age question, about difference between biological, psychological and "passport" ages. )) just wanted to hear male's point of view, to know how many of them stuck to the numbers )))


have a nice day and keep laughing smile suites you perfectly

[mialia]

It's interesting how we assign certain activities to certain age ranges.
I like "X" so I want to be with an person in (fill in the blank) age range.
 
I did not enjoy heavy metal, bars, sky diving, skiing, tattoos or body piercing when I was 20. 
Why would I enjoy them now? 

I did enjoy romantic evenings, books, football, writing, running, playing music, and many other things when I was 20. 
Why would I not enjoy them now? 
(OK, my torn rotator cuff means I cannot throw worth a damn anymore. Irritates me greatly.) 

Of course, taste can also change with age.  But core things often remain the same. 

I say toss the age thing out the window and pursue your own version of happiness. 
Carpe Diem.
You may not be around the following day.

Life after 30?  Sure.  Choose the one you want.




exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!   if i will decide to make one more tattoo - i'll have your words written )))) lol
i wish more people were thinking the way we do ))

never tired to repeat: first of all we are Persons and only then people, who are getting old

[viking]

For some reason turning 30 seems to be a big deal. But when you turn 40 it is not a big deal anymore. Then here is turning 50. Now after turning 60, I met, and married a wonderful woman who is almost 50. But sometimes we act like we are only 25. Yes, age does show up on your body but it should not on your mind. And at every stage, I learned more about myself, and the world and only made me a better person. I know people who are 90 and are very very old and another person who is 93 and still goes dancing every Friday night. Funny, but being older I no longer have to take any crap from the younger people who think they know everything!

[kievstar]

Just catching up on posts and realized I caused this one. I am not a good writer at all.  And I know I cause a lot of issues with people on this board because of it- (just ask Boethius and Faux Pas). 

First you will look the same at 29, 30, 31, 32.  No worry here.

But men do use the age search button and 29 to 30 is huge.  Right now you have the perfect age at 29 - your covered by all the serious men.  However once you hit 30 many serious men 40 years and younger will not even see your profile.  Why - they searched 26 -29.

Also, these same men / women in this post that said they married a woman over 30 ask them how old husband is?  Some are much older than 50.  Some divorced there first RW.  Cracks me up when a 50 year old man says I married a 30 or 40 year old woman. 

I assume you want children.  If so, age of men does matter.  You do not want to be 33 year old woman with 1 year old child and 50 year old man.  Sorry old men here who married or young women who married old men and had children - it is not ideal.  Do you really want a 70 year old man before your children go to university.

I do think you should consider working more closely with the marriage agencies to meet the right man.  Your picture you have here caught my eye and if I was single would have opened up your profile.  I am kind of shocked only 2 men have visited you. 

[SFandEE]

me too, i think that men become better with age  

I like this!  I am not getting older, I am getting better.

I do think the comment about the search button stopping at 29 for some men is correct, but for me this is likely a man that you would not consider.  Since you do want a family the search for age would likely be up to 35.  As you recognize health is most important, but that information is not available so the computer limits have to be acknowledged.

Your age is ideal for a man looking to start a family pretty soon.

[kievstar]

removed.

[pitbull]

Just catching up on posts and realized I caused this one. I am not a good writer at all.  And I know I cause a lot of issues with people on this board because of it- (just ask Boethius and Faux Pas). 

First you will look the same at 29, 30, 31, 32.  No worry here.

But men do use the age search button and 29 to 30 is huge.  Right now you have the perfect age at 29 - your covered by all the serious men.  However once you hit 30 many serious men 40 years and younger will not even see your profile.  Why - they searched 26 -29.

Also, these same men / women in this post that said they married a woman over 30 ask them how old husband is?  Some are much older than 50.  Some divorced there first RW.  Cracks me up when a 50 year old man says I married a 30 or 40 year old woman. 

I assume you want children.  If so, age of men does matter.  You do not want to be 33 year old woman with 1 year old child and 50 year old man.  Sorry old men here who married or young women who married old men and had children - it is not ideal.  Do you really want a 70 year old man before your children go to university.

I do think you should consider working more closely with the marriage agencies to meet the right man.  Your picture you have here caught my eye and if I was single would have opened up your profile.  I am kind of shocked only 2 men have visited you. 

Agree with kievstar here.

There is life after 30, mialia, it is just different for men and women. In that dating scene is usually much better for men in their 30-s than in their 20-s. It is the other way around for women.

Western men, at least those who search for a RW bride on dating sites and marriage agencies, are not much better than Russian Men in this respect. The majority want the youngest hottest piece of flesh their passport and money can buy. Look at what men post on RWD.

So, I concur with kievstart, you should concentrate on your search while you are still 29 and haven't been pushed to the 30-35 age category on the dating site engine. Once it happens, you'll have to do much much more work to find a decent man. Unless of course you'll be ok marrying a 50 y.o. and older.

[Faux Pas]

Just catching up on posts and realized I caused this one. I am not a good writer at all.  And I know I cause a lot of issues with people on this board because of it- (just ask Boethius and Faux Pas). 

I have no issues with you guy. I think you a valuable contributor to the forum and very knowledgeable. I respect everything you state. Which is why I am so quick to call you out when I think you are wrong.

First you will look the same at 29, 30, 31, 32.  No worry here.

But men do use the age search button and 29 to 30 is huge.  Right now you have the perfect age at 29 - your covered by all the serious men.  However once you hit 30 many serious men 40 years and younger will not even see your profile.  Why - they searched 26 -29.

Also, these same men / women in this post that said they married a woman over 30 ask them how old husband is?  Some are much older than 50.  Some divorced there first RW.  Cracks me up when a 50 year old man says I married a 30 or 40 year old woman. 

I assume you want children.  If so, age of men does matter.  You do not want to be 33 year old woman with 1 year old child and 50 year old man.  Sorry old men here who married or young women who married old men and had children - it is not ideal.  Do you really want a 70 year old man before your children go to university.

I do think you should consider working more closely with the marriage agencies to meet the right man.  Your picture you have here caught my eye and if I was single would have opened up your profile.  I am kind of shocked only 2 men have visited you. 

I agree with this also but would add, the guys whose radar she falls off at 30 may not be the quality guy she's looking for in the first place

[XMan]

I agree with this also but would add, the guys whose radar she falls off at 30 may not be the quality guy she's looking for in the first place

FP is right.

[Jumper]

FP is right.

agree

the man limiting his search in the search engines to  29 , is probably not a person she would be interested in anyway.


many agencies allow the age criteria to be choosen in the *search feature* ,
others have those silly  default age ranges


if you are worried about the 30 *cut off* , i would specifically run your profiles in sites that
 in the search feature let a person choose.


Kievstar made  good points. .
and there are some ways to avoid some of this structured criteria.


for what its worth-
 regardless wether i was 35 or 45 in age,,
 when i did a *search* I specified 30 to 45.. if that option was available.

[kievstar]

How many men 48 and over want to make more children?  Probably a very small number.

How many men 35 years and younger want to make more children?  Probably a very big number.

How many men go to Ukraine for a 5 year age difference?  Very few.  Most want 10 or more. 

When you hit 30 your pool is 40 and over mainly.  Your looking at 40 to 49 year old men who want children mainly.  You will lose many of the 35 to 39.  In the 40 to 49 you usually find men with children already.  So if you can accept another mans children that makes more options.

29 is the perfect age.  Every year later gets tougher.  But 29 to 30 is huge difference as compared to 31 to 34.

[irish]

tell me something
for example i was born 8 of April 1981, at 7.00 in the morning....
according to your limits - 8 of April 2011 at 7.01 i won't be healthy enough to carry the baby? ))))
what makes you sure that all 25 years old women are able to carry? it is soooooo personal, you should not look at age, but at the health condition   IMHO

Yuliya,

  The question of health never arose in my mind, I know a woman at 38 who has just given birth and one of 25 who can't and never will be able. I do not rule out ladies with children and adoption is always an option. But I want my own kids.

My point, in the majority, the ladies I have talked to, under 30's want kids and over 30's do not.

Some sites group ladies in 25-30, 30-35 others let you choose specifically. Again I do not rule out those over 30 but have found more ladies under 30 that want children.Why I do not know, but thats what I found.

If tomorrow all sites changed the systems they use, I would still search the 25-30 age because of what I have found.

The ability to have children, is not the question, the desire to have children is.

[Daveman]

My point, in the majority, the ladies I have talked to, under 30's want kids and over 30's do not.

That's interesting, and the exact opposite of my experience.  Women over 30, say between 30 and 38 who do not have children were adamant that they want to have a child (and hinted as quickly as possible or flat out said it). Women with children at that age said they want another child or are willing to have another child.  I can think of only one who was under 40 without a child who also did not want to have a child.

So I would have written something entirely different than you did up there.  Funny how personal experiences vary so greatly in this.

[facetrock]

  I agree completly Dave. Thats been my experience too.

[SFandEE]

                            hello everyone again
here i am, starting a new topic, because i got confused with you, guys
when i was reading the posts about the age difference, the majority raised  their hands for the little difference in years
and now i was told by one of you here, that as soon as i turn to my 30 - i will not exist for many of you.
so where is the Truth, guys?

is there life after thirty?    

Another part of the posts about age difference was the age gap and timing gap.  The majority of the posts from AM and I believe all of the posts from RW/UW were firm on staying within conventional age groups.  I imagine those are different for each individual, but for someone who is 30--what would that be?

I still tend to hope that neither an AM or RW/UW would marry for reasons other than the most genuine commitment to the other, so age would have been factored into that decision and hopefully will not overcome that love over time.

[kievstar]

I ended up marrying a 27 year old as I want several children and was a 10 year age difference at time of marriage.  I did search over 30 years old as in my line of work an age difference more than 10 years would cause a lot of problems for me at work and future advancement. The women I met over 30 all wanted children. 

For men never wanting to have more children pick the women over 40 with children already to be safe.  Going under 39 and you may have one or a headache of a wife until you have one.

That is part of the problems with the 30 year old women.  Many men assume they do not want children, many men assume they do want children.  Its a gray area.  But majority of men want an age difference greater than 5 years.  Gets a lot tougher at 30 as compared to 29 for women who want children.   

[Olga_Mouse]

                           
is there life after thirty?    

Oh yes, there is    Tested on lab mice!

[SANDRO43]

Oh yes, there is    Tested on lab mice!

Unlikely :

House mice usually live under a year in the wild. This is due to a high level of predation and exposure to harsh environments. In protected environments, however, they often live two to three years. The Methuselah Mouse Prize is a competition to breed or engineer extremely long-lived laboratory mice. As of 2005, the record holder was a genetically engineered mouse that lived for 1,819 days, nearly five years. Another record holder that was kept in a stimulating environment but did not receive any genetic, pharmacological or dietary treatment lived for 1,551 days, over four years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_mouse#Life_cycle_and_reproduction

[viking]

No. after thirty life is just a mirage.

[3T_Ventus]

Mialia,

I am Westerner and 31 years of age. I have some contact with women from the FSU and the three are over 30: 1 is 33 and two are 34. They are more cute and mature than most younger girls. So do not worry.