Mamba.ru--looking for a "sponsor" and one night stands.

[diverboy70]

The most serious relations and two of three meetings where also on free.personals.ru

The fact that it did not work out is another fact. But those two where serious women, not scammer or golddiggers.

[BillyB]

Mamba is the biggest one night stand and paid sex hookup site you will find. I dont go there, because 99.99% of men there offer sex in 1st to 3rd message. Complete and vast majority is there for sex apparently. I did have a profile there for a long time, and sometimes if i was bored i'd check it, and my mailbox was always full with all kinds of sex offers, some even specify exactly what kind they want in their first message. I do not see why ANY decent girl would hang out there, unless maybe if she completely ignores anyone she doesn't know and just talks to friends.

Mamba has millions of people. Most men and women there are from the FSU. If anyone wants to think Western men are bad, ask the women who communicate with FSU men on Mamba.

Avoid the women who offer sex or want sponsorship unless that's what you want. If you're a decent guy who acts like a gentleman, you will outperform FSU men at Mamba easily in attracting decent ladies.

[brad5959]

Kievstar said:
Going to a marriage agency has issues but does provide more protection than free personals.  If I owned a marriage agency I would post a bunch of fake profiles on free personals and hire 1 worker just to cause problems with men playing around with free personals.  Why - give them a bad name and attract business to the marriage agencies.

real nice guy!  not.

[brad5959]

what does EM stand for?  what are some of the other free dating sites, which hopefully have fewer "professionals" working on??

[SFandEE]

I imagine Elena's Models, it is very popular for many of the Hero status posters.

I tried Mamba.ru after Mialia's post.  Curious to see what it was about.  I probably like it most for the contacts I am making here in the States.  Will see how they develop.  I have already had one acquaintance in Ukraine get very sick on me and another who wants me to fly to Siberia to meet.

The adventure continues.

[Voyager36]

I imagine Elena's Models, it is very popular for many of the Hero status posters.

Yes correct.
You only pay once for the contact, then you can exchange messages after that for no extra fee, unlike other agencies with the ongoing letter & translation fees scam

[kievstar]

Brad,

Marriage agencies are a business.  If someone threatens your market share you do things to keep and / or increase your market share.  World is not for the innocent.  Do you really think the marriage agencies do not have people on free sites causing issues or looking for new clients.  They sure do.

[brad5959]

Good definition.

Brad, what are the ages of these RW?  I ask because evidently such women go through stages according to what an expat told me. Maybe he was just having fun with me.  Nevertheless, this is what he told me:

Stage I is the period when a beautiful RW is 18-yo to early 20s. She has little trouble in finding a high-income RM to sponsor her. Sponsorship would include her university education.

Stage II comes when the woman reaches 30 or even 25.  She is now too old for RM Daddy Warbucks, so he has discarded her.  She now seeks short-term, escort assignments while waiting for her next, less selective sponsor.   This is when expat businessmen may step in because the expat could not afford her at Stage I.

Stage III comes when she reaches her mid-30s and her only option is to find an American to marry.    :hairraising:  These women are damaged goods in my opinion even though sponsorship is more accepted in the FSU.

Gator,

the ones looking for "sponsorship" or offering sex for money seem to be in their early to mid twenties.

 

[Sculpto]

oh my... you are right Brad.. nothing but hookers and gold diggers and sugar babies on Mamba.. its best if you and all the other Americans stay off.. its a really bad site.. not one good girl to be found there.    :evil:

[brad5959]

oh my... you are right Brad.. nothing but hookers and gold diggers and sugar babies on Mamba.. its best if you and all the other Americans stay off.. its a really bad site.. not one good girl to be found there.    :evil:

are you being sarcastic?  because your friend Alex in Lugansk has a link to Mamba.  what free site would you recommend?

[Misha]

are you being sarcastic?  because your friend Alex in Lugansk has a link to Mamba.  what free site would you recommend?

He is  being sarcastic. Sure there are prostitutes and women looking for sponsors on mamba. There are also married women looking for sex and sometimes friendship. However, all these women are generally easy to discern and you can focus on the hundreds of thousands of other women looking for love and a long-term relationship...

[SFandEE]

I like the site because I am meeting bilingual women who are already settled here in the States.  Mostly interested in meeting men from FSU that are here, but that does not seem to be a hindrance.

I would be very pleased to meet someone on Mamba that is local to Northern California or the States.

[ML]

I like the site because I am meeting bilingual women who are already settled here in the States. 

I would be very pleased to meet someone on Mamba that is local to Northern California or the States.

Your second sentence is very confusing; because in your first sentence you indicate  you are already doing it!

[SFandEE]

First dates and such, but my second sentence should indicate a more serious relationship.  Have to do the meet and greets first though.

Hope that clears up any confusion.

[Sculpto]

You gotta be patient on Mamba.. it takes time.. and to be sure.. girls get a lot of crap offers on that site.. mostly for sex.. so they can be a little "gun shy".  Also.. a lot of people change their locations frequently to try and communicate with people from different locations.. so.. if you do a search for say.. San Jose.. half of them wont really be in San Jose.. they will be in Ekaterinaburg and have a cousin in San Jose.. things like that..

[SFandEE]

One observation that seems clear is that RW/UW on Mamba who are not presenting themselves to WM are much more interested in men closer to their own age.   Reinforcing the false marketing of marriage agencies about age differences that are acceptable to sincere RW/UW.  Of course pay for play is another negotiation.

[Sculpto]

One observation that seems clear is that RW/UW on Mamba who are not presenting themselves to WM are much more interested in men closer to their own age.   Reinforcing the false marketing of marriage agencies about age differences that are acceptable to sincere RW/UW.  Of course pay for play is another negotiation.

There are all kinds of ladies on Mamba and sorting through them and their priorities and reasons for being there can be confusing and very time consuming. 

However.. there is one massive benefit.. you don't get anyone corresponding with you because they are being paid to or because they are required to by an agency. 

That said... it is not for many, even not for most.. its one tool in the arsenal.

[Misha]

That said... it is not for many, even not for most.. its one tool in the arsenal.

Why?

[Sculpto]

Why?

Because "you" are not going to get the ego boost that comes from MOB sites.  No one is required to write back and even if they do write back you are going to get the raw unedited person as opposed to a terp written letter or a terp coached letter. 

It is a lot harder to get someones attention, much like it would be on a typical American dating site.  Women get bombarded.. men get little or nothing.

I think the biggest wake up call I got when I stopped using any paid services was the realization that once the money motive is out of the picture you are left with people who have unknown reasons for posting their profiles.. some might be good, some might be bad.. but.. there is a lot less BS going on thats for sure.  I think I have had a Mamba profile now for four years.  I have sent out hundreds if not thousands of intros and had correspondences with many.  Only five have evolved into meetings and only one of the five has evolved into something with potential.. i have an ongoing Sacramento thread on that topic.

Of the other four..

The first one was a pure gold digger.. we ended up in an art gallery that had some gorgeous very expensive jewelry on display.. she hinted... i didn't buy.. she didn't answer or return another call.

the next was a very nice lady and I was frankly disappointed that she didn't want to meet again.  I think she may have been looking for a man with big money but i can't be sure.. I felt the chemistry and all the signs were there.. but.. she said.. "You are a nice man but I don't see a future for us" and we didn't go out again.

Another I have written about before.. she was also from Sacto.. we went bowling and to a movie afterwards.. while in line for the movie she used the "N" word in reference to the African American who was running the cash register.. she said it loud enough for other people to turn and stare.. and when I ssshhhed her.. she didn't even realize she had done something offensive and actually defended herself with some comment about black people being slow.  If we didn't already have tickets to see Avatar I wold have left her right then and there and I almost did anyway.  Yuck.

The fourth was very confusing.. we had sporadic contact for about a year.. i had left her my phone number and one day out of the blue the phone rings.. We met for chai.. she was really nice.. a little shy but attractive and smart and I liked her.. would have definitely seen her again.  We made plans to do so.. she cancelled at the last minute and rescheduled and was a no show for that.. I called her once more and asked why?  She didn't answer but I left a message.. she never called back or wrote me but I see she looks at my profile every week or two.. VERY weird..

now.. take all four of those women and put them on any MOB site and "they" are writing to me every day and can't wait till I arrive in their town and each is the perfect wife and mom and will polish my tools when I want and meet me at the door naked..

Frankly.. I prefer the low response rate and rejections to the fantasy.  But, its not for everyone.. probably not for most.

[SFandEE]

2012 or another--

What is the angle of the women who want to invite me to chat in the diary?  I haven't pursued these invitations and when they persist report them as spam.  Do they make money off of these chats or is there another angle.

These are the 20 something, mostly naked girls who want to get to know SFandEE.  Thinking of mentioning in profile not interested, but imagine this won't help any.

[brad5959]

they are probably web cam girls.  they will try to get you to go to their webcam site and pay to see them naked, etc.
it happens to me all the time on myspace.com

[SANDRO43]

What is the angle of the women who want to invite me to chat in the diary?  I haven't pursued these invitations and when they persist report them as spam.  Do they make money off of these chats or is there another angle.

Only 1 angle:

$$$$

If it works, it's called the obtuse angle in geometry .

[SFandEE]

Sure--web cams.  That makes sense.  Also been receiving a few hard luck stories within two statements.  Thing is--it must work on some people.

There are nice women on there as well.  For personal discussion, I stick with the RW/UW that are in Northern California, although I will chat with others if they are interesting and don't ask for money.

[Sculpto]

Sure--web cams.  That makes sense.  Also been receiving a few hard luck stories within two statements.  Thing is--it must work on some people.

There are nice women on there as well.  For personal discussion, I stick with the RW/UW that are in Northern California, although I will chat with others if they are interesting and don't ask for money.

SFandEE.. those diary invites are usually links to either a porn site or an adult hook up site.  They are spam.  I click spam on them every time but they are fairly persistent.  I have noticed they come at certain times of the day more than others.  Whoever is sending them is not the girl in the pics.. if you examine the links they always contain an affiliate marketing code so if you should happen to sign up and pay on any of the sites they are pimping the spammer will get their cut.  Definitely not rocket science to figure out.  But.. that is one of the things I like about the site.. its easy to figure out who is real and who isn't.  Getting the attention of someone real is a different story.

You can also get a very clear picture of who the hookers are by signing on when it is after 1 am in western Russia.  The majority of profiles that are online at the hour are hooker ads. 

Anyway.. its just one tool.. if thats all you are using its going to be slow going.

The hard luck stories are probably not even Russian scammers.. more likely to be Nigerians.. I know it seems odd but I have uncovered a number of Nigerians trying to scam on Russian sites.. lol turnabout is fair play right? 

[SFandEE]

Because of mention about freepersonals.ru on RWD I have tried this site too.  Much different experience than mamba.ru.  It seems most women on this site are interested in meeting Russian men and there is absolutely no professionals that have approached me as of yet.

I like the site.  This is a lot of work.