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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2010, 02:02:54 PM »
  She knows what buttons to push with him. His career just had another huge setback. He does need medication too :D

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2010, 02:43:41 PM »
  She knows what buttons to push with him. His career just had another huge setback. He does need medication too :D

The mere fact these private tapes are in the public domain sheds bad light on her.

Hit to shi!t is a stretch

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2010, 05:16:18 PM »
Is RWD turning into a gossip rag :-\?
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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2010, 05:41:20 PM »
Turning? 

Sandro, this is a coffee klatch with no further purpose; if you consider the treatment of recent trip reports.  Usually we do not afflict the famous.  Lucky Mel, he caught one from our pond and we are amused. 

He could get help here, as we have seen his particular train wreck before.

That is our good, ministering to the misguided souls.  Methinks he will find solace in Samagong (sp?).

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2010, 07:51:02 PM »
I think Mel is an alcoholic and looking at his actions you can see why FSUW often say they want a man who does not drink.  I think he should buy a ranch in Australia and retire, after paying off Oksana G. to drop charges against him which is probably what's going to happen.

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2010, 03:09:58 PM »
Is RWD turning into a gossip rag? 

Why is this thread even in the Experienced Forum?

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It was a 'conversation'?

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2010, 03:21:24 PM »
Why is this thread even in the Experienced Forum?

Who knows maybe some members had similar experience and can give their words of wisdom




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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2010, 04:33:55 PM »
All I can say is, Mel is one hell of a director. Because of bad press, the movie 'Apocalypto' never got the credit it very well deserved as I thought it was one of the best movies released the past few years.

I've always admired the Aussie talents that came from DU...Heath, Russel, Olivia, Kidman, Blanchett, Blackman (Mr. Wolverine), Naomi Watts, (Hector of Troy) Eric Bana, (Matrix) Weaving, INXS, Midnight Oil, etc...

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2010, 09:14:09 PM »

Oksana is trying to get sole custody of their child saying Mel Gibson is a physical abuser.

Mel is currently going through a divorce yet his soon to be ex is helping Mel by writing a statement saying Mel never hit her or their 7 children during 28 years of marriage. Mel got a lot of money but too bad he doesn't have the smarts to find a woman that will bring out the best in him instead of the worst.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1294957/Oksana-Grigorieva-claims-Mel-Gibson-bruised-baby.html

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2010, 06:37:18 AM »
A forensic expert reviewed the tapes and found they have been edited.  So they will not be able to be used in court.  My understanding is words and sentences from both parties were edited.

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2010, 07:21:54 AM »
A forensic expert reviewed the tapes and found they have been edited.  So they will not be able to be used in court.  My understanding is words and sentences from both parties were edited.


Hmmm, Oksana is doing whatever it takes to make money off Mel and get sole custody of the child. If true she went through great lengths to hire someone to edit the tapes(I don't think she's smart enough to do that herself) and she put the tapes out in public, Mel can sue for damamges and surely the damage to his career is in the millions. It'll be hard for Oksana to find a  boyfriend with money after this unless the guy is clueless to what goes on in the World.

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2010, 07:48:44 AM »
I had heard that Gibson was a devout Catholic, family man.
Maybe not now. The fact that he drinks and has not aged well has maybe caused his mental deterioration. I was looking at some pictures from a recent gathering of members of my graduating class of 1968. I was unable to attend and I was thinking to myself who these old people were. Then I realized that I was one of them. Getting older can create all sorts of problems. It can sort of make people feel as if they are being squeezed out of society. And Mel, being the male sex symbol of the 1980's, maybe cannot deal with middle age.

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2010, 08:28:47 AM »
Mel still said awful things but since the tape was tampered with it is not longer evidence in court.  Speculation is she said some awful things (edited) and he said some things back which were awful.  The real version probably makes both of them look bad but we will never know. 

Mel got his big break in Mad Max movie.  Once his partner got burned in the movie he went crazy.  Not sure Mel was even acting back in early 1980's.  Probably came natural for him.

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2010, 08:39:56 AM »
What kind of woman tapes the father of her child on a bender and releases it to the public?

Sure, Mel sounded like a very ugly drunk, and she was as sweet and passive as could be.  But of course she was doing the taping.  That way, after she sold them to the tabloids, she would sound like an angel.  Oh, and for those portions where she was pushing his buttons, she evidently just edited those parts out.

I have a feeling that the more we learn about this woman, the more we're going to find that she's the real psycho here.

After having 7 children with his first wife, Mel should have gotten himself fixed.  Then, he wouldn't be in this predicament.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2010, 09:04:28 AM by TheTraveler »

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2010, 09:44:10 AM »
I have a feeling that the more we learn about this woman, the more we're going to find that she's the real psycho here.

Now I understand. Sure, Mel loves Jesus so he must be an OK guy who simply married a conniving little whore who made him behave like a monster just so she could collect a nice settlement. Right?



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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2010, 10:26:39 AM »
Grigorieva has a fairly checkered past, starting her move out of Russia in her early twenties, followed by finding a "sponsor", a Moscow violinist in his sixties with a sumptuous apartment in London.  She then married a young Brit, obtained a British passport, dumped him for a ballet dancer, then dumped the dancer when she met Timothy Dalton, with whom she has a son.  Their break up was also acrimonious.

Mel Gibson was never married to Grigorieva, nor did he live with her.  Despite his staunch and conservative Catholicism (which is likely why he would never have a vasectomy), he was always known to have cheated on his long suffering wife.  I suspect had Grigorieva not been pregnant, his wife (from whom he was separated) would not have divorced him. 

Did he behave like a monster?  Who knows.  He certainly is no angel.  But for Grigorieva to release the tapes (which she denies) indicates she is no better than him.
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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2010, 10:33:22 AM »
He's got some wild passion in him and that is why he's a great director. Unfortunately it has a nasty side and the alcohol doesn't help either. I see no reason to boycott his movies.

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All I can say is, Mel is one hell of a director. Because of bad press, the movie 'Apocalypto' never got the credit it very well deserved as I thought it was one of the best movies released the past few years.

I sure agree with this. I seen that movie about 5 times.

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2010, 11:09:14 AM »
He's got some wild passion in him and that is why he's a great director. Unfortunately it has a nasty side and the alcohol doesn't help either. I see no reason to boycott his movies.

They didn't boycott the movie because Mel may have had a love affair with the bottle. The movie got a bad rap due in part the big hands behind the movie industry and Hollywood happen to be of religious group that were offended both by the movie' The Passion of Christ' and Mel's tirade to the cops about the 'Jews' being the cause of the world's problems today when they arrested him for drunk driving.

I'm speculating he isn't too fond of jewish folks... :-\

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I sure agree with this. I seen that movie about 5 times.

That's it?!? You've only seen the scene and heard the lines 5 times?!?...

"I am Jaguar Paw, son of Flint Sky. My Father hunted this forest before me. I am a hunter. This is my forest. And my sons will hunt it with their sons after I am gone".

" Resting fathers, fly me your strength"

Awesome movie!
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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2010, 03:23:06 PM »
Mel seems to be one of those religious hypocrites that give religion a bad name. A pity.

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2010, 06:26:14 PM »
Now I understand. Sure, Mel loves Jesus so he must be an OK guy who simply married a conniving little whore who made him behave like a monster just so she could collect a nice settlement. Right?


Regardless if Mel has some issues, ANY man needs to worry about getting hooked up with Oksana. She wants Mel's money and they aren't even married.

Mel had 28 years with his ex with no DV. Maybe his ex was a good woman who made Mel a better man but Mel didn't know what he had in her until he lost her. Now he gets involved with the wrong woman. Most men would go crazy getting involved with the wrong women who knows how to push his buttons. Who knows what Oksana edited out of the conversations before Mel went off? Maybe she threatened he'll never see his child again? Maybe she threatened to hurt his career if he didn't pay up? Maybe she talked about how sexy she dressed and pick up a guy at a bar and screwed his brains out to provoke Mel to call her a whore?

Mel seems to be one of those religious hypocrites that give religion a bad name. A pity.


The Bible says everyone is a sinner so everyone is a hypocrite? How many people out there think Mel is the go to guy when they need a religious example on how to live life? Just think how he'd live his life if he didn't have some guidance from his faith. Don't look at guys like Mel as what kind of people religion produces. There are much better examples out there if you want to find them.

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2010, 09:56:30 PM »
1.  in a sworn deposition to the court, Mel Gibson's wife of 28 years Robin Gibson stated there was never any domestic violence against her or their children.

2.  Oksana Griegorieva's dentist has made a sworn statement that there was no evidence she had been punched when he treated her in January (no internal or external tissue damage).

3.  Mel's lawyers are going to release evidence including emails that Oksana G. attempted to extort $10 million from him in exchange for not releasing the tapes.

4.  yesterday Mel's lawyers won in court--the judge agreed that Mel is not a danger to his daughter (with Oksana) and that he still can visit her.

Mel has been a jerk but Oksana might be that and worse.

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2010, 10:59:28 PM »
Only a naive person wearing pink eyes wouldn't be able to figure out what is going on.



The lady's morals are bottom low. Cynical beyond limitations whatsoever, with icy cold calculative mind. Pre-meditated, calculated, thought out  everything. Clearly a  disgusting person with disfigured "filling". Nazi manner of talking. Using the child as a hostage. IMHO, was PLANTED to Gibson by his former Hollywood "offenders" ( well known masters of "planting a woman"  to destroy an enemy).



Mel--a man driven to despair. Yes, he is drunk and driven to the edge  because of the  bitterness of realization of his gross mistake, and that he fell pray to a plot.



Mel Gibson is one of the best and greatest artists ever. Gibson characterized her aptly. I can only say :the petty gold digger,  a moth ( in my opinion, worse than Monika).



If his lawyers fail to put her back to place, the highest justice will, for sure.

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2010, 02:19:31 AM »
The Bible says everyone is a sinner so everyone is a hypocrite? How many people out there think Mel is the go to guy when they need a religious example on how to live life? Just think how he'd live his life if he didn't have some guidance from his faith. Don't look at guys like Mel as what kind of people religion produces. There are much better examples out there if you want to find them.

Dude, this is a guy that pretends to be a devout catholic and yet he has behaves appallingly by most people's standards. In my reality that makes him a hypocrite. And I hardly think that religion "produced" him, but, he is a fine example of how people shouldn't take the morale standards of the faithful at face value.

The lady's morals are bottom low. Cynical beyond limitations whatsoever, with icy cold calculative mind. Pre-meditated, calculated, thought out  everything. Clearly a  disgusting person with disfigured "filling". Nazi manner of talking. Using the child as a hostage. IMHO, was PLANTED to Gibson by his former Hollywood "offenders" ( well known masters of "planting a woman"  to destroy an enemy).

Some not so slight Anti-Semitic conspiracy theory overtones there Ludmila. Like Mel, I see you have a flexible idea of how your religion guides you.  :rolleyes2:

Besides that, Mel's ex may very well be all the things you say but that in no way justifies his behaviour.

Mel Gibson is one of the best and greatest artists ever.

I think a lot of people would disagree quite strongly with that.  :D

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Re: Mel Gibsons phone convos with Oksana Grigorieva
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2010, 04:24:40 AM »
Maybe Mel should get together with Maxx.
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