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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2010, 10:26:31 AM »
Where's the EVIDENCE???  All this bickering and backbiting from you characters and zero EVIDENCE. 

Maybe these Commericial Members need their own seperate forum. :P



Hi Tim,

>>Maybe these Commericial Members need their own seperate forum. :P<<

That was kinda what I thought I was doing with this new subforum - but other suggestions are most welcome.

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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2010, 10:38:09 AM »
Hi Tim,

>>Maybe these Commericial Members need their own seperate forum. :P<<

That was kinda what I thought I was doing with this new subforum - but other suggestions are most welcome.

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Or maybe appoint a Judge and have them submit their evidence and we'll have an online trial. :cheesygrin:  Here ye ye.  Order in the court.
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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2010, 10:39:46 AM »

One would have thought so, yes Dan.
In the US our court's essentially ruled that when in public it was legal to take anyone's photo however such photo, or photos, could not be used for commercial use without that person's (the person in the photo), and/or the photographers permission.  Usually some sort of compensation is rendered when using such person's photo in a commercial manner.

manny had sent me a copy of his book and was wanting my feedback on this book.  After reading this book I eventually gave my opinion on this book, an opinion that manny was not happy with and promptly deleted from his site. One of the things I found alarming in this book, besides some of the outrageous statements, was a photo of my girlfriend from Lugansk.This is a photo of her's that has been posted on the internet, as I have posted several of her on this very site.  But none of those photos, to my knowledge, had been used for commercial purposes.  When I showed this photo to Helen and it being in manny's book she was shocked, even upset. She assured me she had never given permission for her photo to be published in this book and I know manny did not get permission from the photographer.

So when you mention you felt confident that a great deal of due diligence had been applied to this book, I would have to respectfully disagree with you as to this particular aspect.

You mention that manny's book has had numerous updates. Hopefully the unauthorized use of this ladies photo has been removed in these recent updates.



Jack,

My comments about "due diligence" were based on several conversations and exchanges I have had with Stuart over the past 6 or so months. I was careful to NOT address the content of the book as I have not read it. I continue to believe that anyone who approaches Stuart with a rational and cogent position about any concern over what is published in his book will receive consideration. I truly believe that Stuart wishes to be accurate and helpful with presentation of the material in his book - just as we are with our RWD E-book, Men of the West, Women From the East.

In terms of photos, I cannot help but wonder if you might be addressing some of the promotional materials used to market the book? I seem to recall hearing/reading something about someone using your photos without permission - but that was a very long time ago and I do not have recall of the details.

As for what transpired at RUA - Stuart and I are, I believe, of a like mind on this. For that matter, so are the folks at RMP. Since none of us controls or influences decisions made at the other's sites, it is inappropriate and counterproductive to allow the use of THIS venue to complain about what happened elsewhere. In other words, the exchange here at RWD needs to remain centered around activities that emanated HERE.

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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2010, 10:41:56 AM »
How is this idea? Maybe jack needs a forum of his own. He seems to be the only one having trouble getting along with other providers/commercial members. I don't see any one else but him fighting, do you, Tim/Dan?
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« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2010, 10:42:16 AM »
Or maybe appoint a Judge and have them submit their evidence and we'll have an online trial. :cheesygrin:  Here ye ye.  Order in the court.

Interesting you suggest that. Over at PL, we established exactly this sort of 'tribunal' for warring members. We appointed a 'Judge' that was agreeable to both/all parties - established some 'rules' for presentation of the case - and then let the members determine who 'won' the case through a vote.

If the principals want to take a look at what was established at PL (http://www.planet-love.com/forum/index.php?board=41.0) for use here, I am willing to give it a try.

What do y'all say?

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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2010, 10:43:12 AM »
How is this idea? Maybe jack needs a forum of his own. He seems to be the only one having trouble getting along with other providers/commercial members. I don't see any one else but him fighting, do you, Tim/Dan?

Uh . . . yes Eduard, I *do* see plenty of other people besides Jack. Taken a look in the mirror lately?

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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2010, 10:53:38 AM »

geeeeez, what is it with you two?  You want to do all the asking but yet when you are asked a simple question, days ago, you still do not reply.  listen boy's, and I do mean boy's, this is not a one way street.  I asked both of you questions a day and two days ago and neither of you have cared to reply. You both ask me questions today, expect an immediate answer.     WELL, so do I !!

Why is it only one person is suppose to answer questions?   Why is it that you manny have REFUSED to answer one question I have asked you several times over the past few days. WHY is it you will not answer this question?


Daveman, what you actually should see here is Mr Bragg attacking others as usual. Only Mr Bragg is accusing anyone of anything here.

Up to now, Mr Bragg has defamed me by insulting me and made patently untrue claims about photographs allegedly in my book. I have asked him to provide proof of that -- so we wait. When he cant, he will be exposed for the blatant liar that he is. At that point, we shall see if he can pony up on the bet he accepted.

It is not up to me, as the accused, to provide evidence to exonerate myself from spurious claims by the confused or senile, it is up to the accuser to provide evidence to back up their claims or it is quite clearly libel.


Daveman, let's look at what you actually have here.  Mr Stewart, aka manny has defamed me by insulting me and  has made a patently untrue claim about my being in cahoots with undesirable sites. I have asked him to provide proof of that -so  we wait, and wait, and wait.  tick    tick      tick       When he, Stewart/aka manny can't answer, he will AGAIN be exposed for the blatant liar that he is and as I have proven numerous times over the past.

It is not up to me, as the accused, to provide evidence to exonerate myself from spurious claims by the confused, senile, un-ethical, morals lower than the underside of a snake wanker, it is up to the accuser, Stewart/aka manny,  to provide evidence to back his claim or it is quite clearly libel.

He would not do so on his site, thus the reason for the coward to lock the thread. Hopefully he, Stewart/aka manny will answer the question on this site.

 



Again eduard, glad to see you joining the show.

eduard, you ask me to answer a question that you have imposed on me.

Let's focus on this now.  For a few days I have asked if you would send me the names and email addresses of three men who you have helped to get married. After you had asked me for references of men, I proudly, gladly, provided you in confidence the name of ten happily married men, how long they have been married and the length of time these men have been married, all ranging from 10 to 3 years, no marriages less than three years.  I will ask you again, will you send me the names of three men who you have helped to marry. You say you have 30, or there about.   I think you have 1.  Believe me, the world would have heard of your second, and third married man.   Will you send me this information, yes or no?

You have made the statement "Like most MOB agencies you are trying to sell the myth that many RW are looking for older men,"   and   "You sell older men on the idea that there are plenty of young girls in their 20s in Ukraine who would be interested in marriage to them.   I have asked you to please provide any factual statements, documents, ANYTHING, to back-up and prove this untrue, libelous claim by you.  If not you will be exposed for the blatant liar that you are, and maybe more. 

And when you are exposed for not being able to back up your untrue statement we will call it like it is = eduard is again making false and misleading statements, as he has done since his first days on this site.
Your behavior and creative story telling is juvenile at best eduard. Your greed, you not being able to get more that one/two paying clients a year to take you overseas, your not being able to provide enough income for your family as you need to,  is getting in the way of your better judgment and prevents you from realizing that this ugly trait of story telling, making things up, is causing people to see the real side of you and of course causing YOU to loose clients you so desperately need. Who want's to hear advice on something as important as marriage from a person whose inability to tell the truth has to make one question his mental capacity.



and when you are done pointing me to that page with the girl's photo in Manny's book, would you be so kind to provide a link to where I supposedly wrote that "I, by myself, without my client on the line (who actually makes the call) call RW to varify whether they seem sincere or not and to get a good feel for them".
Thanks, jack


You DID not say "to verify whether they seem sincere or not and to get a good feel for them".  I ad lib that.  You did write that YOU did call ladies for your clients in an effort to determine if they were real or not also to get some type of feel as to the woman's sincerity. Not in those exact words but very close. You did say you called ladies for your clients.  I do have all this saved  (no sense in trying to delete it manny)  and can show your exact words but YOU know that YOU said that you did call ladies for your clients. Or are you saying now eduard that you never did write that statement?

A couple of months later when IMBRA was being discussed and you were questioned you wrote, not in these exact words but close to, that IMBRA did not apply to you as you did not call the women on the man's behalf.  A Completely different story from what you had given early.    OR do you now say eduard that you never wrote that you did not call ladies for your clients.






manny, your book is in Texas, I am in Ukraine.   

Now, can you please tell me who are these disreputable sites I am in cahoots with?  YOU made this claim last December.  WHERE is your proof, your evidence to back your claim?   OR do I make you out to be the PROVEN liar you are again?



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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2010, 10:54:26 AM »
Dan,  just saw your post referring to things on this site.

I will attempt to get eduard to prove his statements  "Like most MOB agencies you are trying to sell the myth that many RW are looking for older men,"   and   "You sell older men on the idea that there are plenty of young girls in their 20s in Ukraine who would be interested in marriage to them."   and hold him to backing this up before addressing his question.


With manny I will not address any questions he has until he has backed up his libelios statements about my being in cahoots with undesirable sites  as documented on another site RWA    http://russianwomenadventure.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=80&sid=1d2f0fb2e6ac574a0826d7d0e0e606bc

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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2010, 11:10:55 AM »
Dan,  just saw your post referring to things on this site.

I will attempt to get eduard to prove his statements  "Like most MOB agencies you are trying to sell the myth that many RW are looking for older men,"   and   "You sell older men on the idea that there are plenty of young girls in their 20s in Ukraine who would be interested in marriage to them."   and hold him to backing this up before addressing his question.


With manny I will not address any questions he has until he has backed up his libelios statements about my being in cahoots with undesirable sites  as documented on another site RWA    http://russianwomenadventure.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=80&sid=1d2f0fb2e6ac574a0826d7d0e0e606bc

Jack,

You are kinda missing the point of one IMPORTANT aspect I posted upthread. That is - How is it any of RWD's concern what transpired at RUA? I contend it is none.

Now, in this one instance - and ONLY if Manny agrees - we can consider pursuing the kind of virtual Court that Tim suggested and can include those other 'issues' you want to raise - but that is *only* if all parties agree.

For now - let's stop polluting RWD with these unsubstantiated allegations until such time as there is an agreement to proceed. If the allegations persist, the topic(s) will be locked until agreement is reached, or not, via PM.

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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2010, 11:31:16 AM »
(......) A couple of months later when IMBRA (.....)

Jack-

This shouldn't be treated lightly. I mentioned this matter in another thread and unsurprisingly went unheeded, so now you're bringing this back up again.

You seem to be implying a very serious federal violation transpiring here and I'm vey interested if this is factually happening or you're just making an inconclusive assumption.

Mind bringing this into light for us please....  :popcorn:
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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2010, 11:51:34 AM »
Dan, as I know you do not want me to bring up the false statement manny made on rua about me being in cahoots with bad sites, so I brought up statements presented on RWA.    I know, you probably don't want that as well.


GQ for 100% certainty eduard said IMBRA did not effect him because he did not contact any ladies until the men had already made contact with the girls.  That in it'self would still mean that IMBRA still applies to him.  But only two months earlier he wrote that he did call ladies for these guys during the weeding out process. Some guys may remember him saying that but I do have it all saved on home computer.   If eduard will not confess to saying any of this I will bring it up and send you.

Now I think from what Dan is saying I cannot send this proof, these things eduard said on rua so I will be happy to send to you by private email, as well will send to anyone else who wants to see his exact words, if he does not admit to it, as well.  My email is nunya@ix.netcom.com  Anyone else send an email asking for eduards exact wording if you want to see it.

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« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2010, 11:57:14 AM »

Now, in this one instance - and ONLY if Manny agrees - we can consider pursuing the kind of virtual Court that Tim suggested and can include those other 'issues' you want to raise - but that is *only* if all parties agree.



FOR SURE Dan!    If you can get manny to agree to including his statement on rua about him saying I'm in cahoots with bad sites I'm all for the virtual court.

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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2010, 12:04:00 PM »
jack, "ad lib" is the key word here. You admittedely did ad lib and so in order for me to comment I'd have to see the original statement that I supposedly made according to you. I know that I don't call women in the FSU by myself, however we do 3-way calls when my client calls his lady and has me translate for them. Please provide the link where I can see the original and not your "ad libbed" version. You've already have been cought "making up" things about me on RUA in the passed so I wouldn't take your "word" for anything.

In regard to your statement that you do not try to sell older men on the idea that there are many RW looking for older WM here is the link to your post: http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=12453.msg245144#msg245144
This quote in particular unquestionably supports what I'm saying:
"eduard it appears you want to make it sound like the Russian personal sites have women who do not seek men of great age differences, this is just not true."
As I wrote before, the links you provided as "proof" are either spam like this one: http://real-ukraine-girls...=141138969&offset=170

I am looking for a:Man aged 16-80 years Who I want to find:
Привет! У mеня прoстo oбалденная фигурка, упругая пoпка, да и вooбще, - я прoстo красавица. Хoчу mужчину. Ищи mеня на v, х, х, х, к, точ _р, _у, , таm же и телефoнчик oставила. Translation: Hi! I have a beautiful body, tight, bouncy ass and in general I'm just beautiful. I want a man. Find me on vxxxk.ru  (I wouldn't recommend any one clicking on that link because it is very likely that you will get a worm or a virus from that site.) you can also find my phone number there.

Or they are simply prostitutes/girls looking for a sponsor.

I'm not a pimp, jack, so when I talk about RW on a forum like this one, I refer to women who are looking for a serious relationship and marriage, and not neccessarily to a foreigner. I do not include prostitutes and spammers in that criteria. In your haste to try to show that I am "wrong", that I don't know "what I'm talking about" you rushed to find some profiles that would support your idea and to try to discredit me.
Well you saw what the response was from several people, so you only discredited yourself IMHO.
 Sadly, you just don't learn.

As far as referrences:
I didn't ask you to send me some email addresses. I specifically asked you to provide a link to a thread on this forum where your satisfied customers give their feedback. With all the people who sign up for your tours from RWD that shouldn't be a problem one would think?
All I read so far is that your tour is "a good way to get one's feet wet" (Turboguy's words, not mine), but I was wondering if there is a thread here on RWD or on RUA where your happily married clients actually talk about their experience working with you and how you helped them find their wives? You don't need to deflect my question. Simple "yes" or "NO" would do.
As far as sending you contact info for any of my clients, simply put, I don't trust you jack. Even if they did give me a permisson to give their contact info to use as referrence I wouldn't send it to you. I haven't been in this business nearly as long as you have, and have been on these forums only for a couple of years, still. I have people posting their positive reviews of working with me. I'd like to take a look at such a thread where your former clients are talking about your services and their success finding wives by using you. I think it's a fair question.
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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2010, 12:06:20 PM »

FOR SURE Dan!    If you can get manny to agree to including his statement on rua about him saying I'm in cahoots with bad sites I'm all for the virtual court.

Jack,

For the record - it is not up to me to get anyone to agree. It is up to y'all. As I see it, you are waging battle on TWO fronts - one with Manny and the other with Eduard. For the sake of keeping things straight-forward (and understandable), I suggest you keep them segregated.

Whether or not you and Eduard, or you and Manny, want to submit to some kind of online 'tribunal' is up to YOU guys to decide. I will do nothing other than offer the venue and answer your questions as to how it worked over at PL.

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« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2010, 12:11:29 PM »
I have people posting their positive reviews of working with me. I'd like to take a look at such a thread where your former clients are talking about your services and their success finding wives by using you. I think it's a fair question.

It would be a VERY fair question *IF* you were intending to make use of Jack's services. As a competitor, it reeks more of self-promotion.

BTW - if you make use of the search function here, you should be successful with finding more than a few endorsements of Jack's services over the years.

Jack-

This shouldn't be treated lightly. I mentioned this matter in another thread and unsurprisingly went unheeded, so now you're bringing this back up again.

You seem to be implying a very serious federal violation transpiring here and I'm vey interested if this is factually happening or you're just making an inconclusive assumption.

Mind bringing this into light for us please....  :popcorn:

GQ - in the interest of trying to 'streamline' all the invective that is popping up, would it be possible for you to ask that question of Ed directly - maybe in a separate topic?

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« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2010, 12:27:32 PM »
GQ for 100% certainty eduard said IMBRA did not effect him because he did not contact any ladies until the men had already made contact with the girls.  That in it'self would still mean that IMBRA still applies to him.  But only two months earlier he wrote that he did call ladies for these guys during the weeding out process. Some guys may remember him saying that but I do have it all saved on home computer.   If eduard will not confess to saying any of this I will bring it up and send you.

Jack-

What you posted as a response to question means absolutely nothing.....

I was asking if you have clear and substantial proof that any person (US Petitioner) serviced by the for-profit facilitator which resulted in a marriage to a foregner did in fact a) NOT provided the required personal information disclosure of their client to the foreign national which resulted to a marriage, or b) the petitioner, *whether knowingly or otherwise*, NOT named the business (for-profit facilitator) as required on Line 19 of the 129F...?

Any dating service organization, whether locally-based or otherwise, who becomes a 'paid' facilitator between an American resident (citizen or permanent resident) and a non-American resident/foreigner which resulted in a marriage must comply to the regulations set by IMBRA. The foreign national must be provided a comprehensive list of compliance set by IMBRA.

IMBRA requires any for-profit, dating service, which primarily facilitates international contacts between Americans and non-Americans, any so called "International Marriage Broker" to perform the following :

A. To conduct a background check at the National Sex Offenders Database, NSOPR.GOV on each American it serves.
B. To ask a list of mandated questions of each American about his marital and criminal background.
C. To request the American to provide court records, police reports, etc for any conviction or arrest, specified in the mandated questions list.
D. To translate (B and C) above to the primary language spoken by the foreign person the American wants to contact.
E. To present to the foreign person, items (B and C) above translated to her primary language
F. To present to the foreign person, a pamphlet about Domestic Abuse written in her primary language.
G. To ask her to sign a statement, also in her primary language, stating that she consents to allow the American contact her.


So... my question again is, do you know for a fact if there had been federal violation/s to the International Marriage Brokering Regulations Act as you are implying here?

Definition of an International Marriage Broker. “International marriage broker” is defined as an entity (whether or not U.S.-based) that charges fees for providing matchmaking services or social referrals between U.S. citizens/permanent residents and foreign nationals. The definition also exempts nonprofit religious or cultural matchmaking services, and dating services that do not match U.S. citizens/residents with aliens as their principal business and that charge comparable rates and offer comparable services to all clients, regardless of gender or country of citizenship.

Penalties for Other Violations/Nonpreemption. An IMB is subject to a civil penalty of $5,000 - $25,000 per violation *or attempted violation* of its obligations under IMBRA, and criminal penalties for not more than five years in prison. This is in addition to other possible penalties and remedies that may be provided for under federal or state law. (Sections 833(d)(5) and (6))
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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2010, 12:37:25 PM »
Jack-

What you posted as a response to question means absolutely nothing.....

I was asking if you have clear and substantial proof that any person (US Petitioner) serviced by the for-profit facilitator which resulted in a marriage to a foregner did in fact a) NOT provided the required personal information disclosure of their client to the foreign national which resulted to a marriage, or b) the petitioner, *whether knowingly or otherwise*, NOT named the business (for-profit facilitator) as required on Line 19 of the 129F...?

Any dating service organization, whether locally-based or otherwise, who becomes a 'paid' facilitator between an American resident (citizen or permanent resident) and a non-American resident/foreigner which resulted in a marriage must comply to the regulations set by IMBRA. The foreign national must be provided a comprehensive list of compliance set by IMBRA.

IMBRA requires any for-profit, dating service, which primarily facilitates international contacts between Americans and non-Americans, any so called "International Marriage Broker" to perform the following :

A. To conduct a background check at the National Sex Offenders Database, NSOPR.GOV on each American it serves.
B. To ask a list of mandated questions of each American about his marital and criminal background.
C. To request the American to provide court records, police reports, etc for any conviction or arrest, specified in the mandated questions list.
D. To translate (B and C) above to the primary language spoken by the foreign person the American wants to contact.
E. To present to the foreign person, items (B and C) above translated to her primary language
F. To present to the foreign person, a pamphlet about Domestic Abuse written in her primary language.
G. To ask her to sign a statement, also in her primary language, stating that she consents to allow the American contact her.


So... my question again is, do you know for a fact if there had been federal violation/s to the International Marriage Brokering Regulations Act as you are implying here?

Definition of an International Marriage Broker. “International marriage broker” is defined as an entity (whether or not U.S.-based) that charges fees for providing matchmaking services or social referrals between U.S. citizens/permanent residents and foreign nationals. The definition also exempts nonprofit religious or cultural matchmaking services, and dating services that do not match U.S. citizens/residents with aliens as their principal business and that charge comparable rates and offer comparable services to all clients, regardless of gender or country of citizenship.

Penalties for Other Violations/Nonpreemption. An IMB is subject to a civil penalty of $5,000 - $25,000 per violation *or attempted violation* of its obligations under IMBRA, and criminal penalties for not more than five years in prison. This is in addition to other possible penalties and remedies that may be provided for under federal or state law. (Sections 833(d)(5) and (6))

Very good point.

I can make the statement that; "I just murdered Jack Bloggs," and even if I repeat it, or write it on a forum 1000 times, unless I have IN FACT murdered Jack Bloggs, my statements alone do not constitute a crime.

Moral to the story - using one's statements as evidence against them is valid ONLY if there is an underlying action of wrong-doing. Those statements might lead a person to the wrong-doing, but the statements themselves do not constitute a crime.

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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2010, 12:55:56 PM »
Gees, you guys are such a fun bunch here on RWD. When I joined the first time 2.5 years ago, no one knew me and I was called a liar, a scammer and was constantly harassed and finally banned (unfairly I might add). Several RWD members even left the forum to show their support for me at the time. Now I haven't been here for a month and I get harassed by Faux Pas, jack and GQ wants to put me in jail for alleged IMBRA violation and to leave my 15 months old and 4 year old babies and wife to starve. KenC already jumped in on the "action" but I didn't respond.
It doesn't matter to you guys that I'm one of the very few SPs who has nothing but good and positive said about him by people who actually used his services. You just seem to enjoy tearing me down while bullies like jack enjoy soft glove treatment from the management.
If I'm not welcome on this forum, please just say so and I'll remove myself from here. It's just not worth it for me to spend hours every day engaging in these battles. I've got work to do and a family to support, I don't need this crap. Just say the word.
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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2010, 01:25:38 PM »
Eduard!

Do you have people who believe in you and the service you provide? Yes! You have family and friends who believe in you. That is more important than defending yourself. Show more about your achievements and ignore the accusations. Continue to be a gentleman and show how it must be done...Nobody wants you to leave this forum. There is more to life than focusing on the negative. I am a newbie and am gathering much information to be successful in my aim to find a foreign wife, whether it be FSUW or other. Some of your information has been helpful already. 

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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2010, 01:31:46 PM »
As I have written in another thread, forum's like this are far richer because of Jack's and Eduard's involvement ... I would even include Manny in that too.

I don't run a forum like this but if I did then I would introduce a hard and tight rule that forbids one service provider making any comment's about another service provider. There are enough 'civilian' members around who are more than capable of questioning possible BS claims that don't appear to be true.

My personal belief is that to instigate the above rule resolves more 'issues' that it will cause and for guys like me who are in searching mode then I can certainly do without the waters being made more muddier than they already are.




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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2010, 01:32:46 PM »
Eduard!

Do you have people who believe in you and the service you provide? Yes! You have family and friends who believe in you. That is more important than defending yourself. Show more about your achievements and ignore the accusations. Continue to be a gentleman and show how it must be done...Nobody wants you to leave this forum. There is more to life than focusing on the negative. I am a newbie and am gathering much information to be successful in my aim to find a foreign wife, whether it be FSUW or other. Some of your information has been helpful already. 
thanks for your kind words.
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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2010, 01:34:42 PM »
Eduard,

Your probably need to brush up on your translating skills.  Legal stuff often means just the opposite of what you think.  My read is that GQ deserves a break.

In a way, you probably meet every requirement except one.. by not providing a pamphlet that IIRC hasn't even been published by the Government.  There are no official IMBRA forms that need to be signed under oath or threat of perjury.  In court, your chances of loosing are slim to none unless it involves some kind of sting operation or competitor trying to set you up.  Also kinda hard to convict anyone when the Government itself is not doing their part either.

Look guys, 'tit for tat' is bad enough but don't turn it into 'sh!t for shat' where no one will come out smelling like roses.

 

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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2010, 01:37:20 PM »
manny, your book is in Texas, I am in Ukraine. 
 

Jack. It will wait. When you get back to Texas, you grab a copy of the book, scan the imaginary offending page featuring a photograph of "your girlfriend" and publish it here for all to see.

If you don't, I shall assume your motives were less than stellar, which really, we all know anyway. But hey, we can play Jacky-Jack-Nunya internet games one last time cant we, before the old dinosaur has to slink away for being proved a liar with a $50,000 debt?

Moving onto your query about your involvement with sites of dubious repute, the forum you link to (any chance you get) -- and its secret ownership -- would be one. The "Jims List Sucks" site you created merely to create torment for another in the industry would be another. However, Dan has already explained to you that RWD is not a venue for you to vent your spleen about things you imagine might have happened on other sites. So, I suggest we keep this exchange to the defamation and libel you insist on spouting on this topic.

To RWD members: The *real* reason Jack has such a bee in his bonnet is as follows.

He and I had playfully jousted across many fora for a number of years. He was a member at RUA for four years, but his habit of continually attacking members and other service providers got him a number of warnings. Shortly before his exit from RUA, he was attacking members as he is doing in this thread here. By means of building himself up, he was boasting his tours/socials have created over 200 marriages. I asked him to point us to a page where some of these happy couples were pictured. After the subsequent white noise had died down, he couldn't. He didn't like that. I don't think he ever forgave me for pointing out that, "Anyone can pluck a number from the air they cannot back up, but don't expect it to be accepted as truth."

Prior to that, back in 2008, when our book The Russian Bride Guide was released, Jack -- along with others in the industry -- got a preview copy mailed to him free of charge. He was invited to review it and declined. The reason for that I later learned is he didn't like my overview of the mechanics of tours and socials and why, in my opinion, they are not an ideal venue to meet a wife at.

Fast forward to New Years Day 2010. Jack was in Ukraine. His first act of the new year was to pollute RUA with some pre-written topics on a variety of subjects. It was pre-planned distasteful trolling designed to create maximum disruption to the the site during a holiday period when most people are in the bosom of their family; as I was. I received an SMS message from one of the members saying "Bragg is trolling the forum. I think he is drunk. You better take a look". I went on to take a look, and sure enough, his pre-planned trolling was everywhere; posted at 5am Ukraine time*. As it was New Years Day, I had no intention of spending the day mopping up Jack's textual diarrhoea, so his topics were deleted and he suspended until after the holidays. After the holidays, the decision was made not to allow him back. A decision we never regretted for a moment. You lucky folks here at RWD got him back then.

Two months ago, Jack decided, after two years, to write a book "review". Negative of course. He chose Amazon as a venue, you can read it and the follow up comments here: Jack's Amazon Review. Draw your own conclusions from that dear reader. A book he got for free was a "Waste of $20" he claims.

For Jack's latest attack against me, again from Ukraine,* he chose RWD as a venue. The result is this topic. Again, the reader can draw his own conclusions about Jack's motivations. I intend to prove without doubt here that Jack is -- again -- lying. I think I should know what is in my own book, yes? I say it features no internal photographs whatsoever. Jack insists it does and recounts tales of showing the book -- featuring a picture of "his girlfriend" to people. Jack has accepted a $50,000 wager that he is wrong. This will be fun.........

However, we must wait for him to get back to the US first.

*I dunno about you folks, but if I were a single bloke running sex tours socials in Ukraine, I hope could find better things to do than spend every visit, including New Years Day, causing trouble on the internet. I might even spend $75 to put my tax affairs back in good standing back home. But that's just me........
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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2010, 01:50:13 PM »
(...) and GQ wants to put me in jail for alleged IMBRA violation and to leave my 15 months old and 4 year old babies and wife to starve.(....)

LOL Eduard....

FWIW, unless you're de facto admitting having NOT complied with IMBRA's regulations cited above e.g. 'by acquiring from and providing to' as a course of your paid services, then please consider the information above a friendly reminder of your lawful adherence.

FSUWs will love you for it.  :)
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Re: manny's thread
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2010, 01:55:30 PM »
I don't know if you 3 Commercial members realize it or not but--none of you come off looking too good in this snitty little ego drama girly slapfest.  If you are in the right--show the evidence or quit whining since you make yourselves look like fools.  Who in their right mind would listen to fools let alone hire them. 8)
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