Anastasia Phone Trick

[veggamattic]

I have a special math talent for analysis and quantification. This allows me to identify scams and deceptive trickery better than most. I have been a member of Anastasia for 2 years and I am currently in Odessa trying my luck with some dating. I have been a minor victim of some nasty women already and I have also been victim of the EVIL Anastasia website and it's complete lack of respect for it's clients. So it's pay back time.

Here is a trick if you don't want to pay the telephone connection fees that they charge:

You will need a Ukraine based phone. They are very cheap to buy and to use.

While in a chat session with a girl try asking her if she would be willing to call you if you give her your phone number. She might say one of 4 thing...yes, no, no because it is forbidden (about 10-15%) or this can not be done because it will be blocked. Assure her that you know a trick so that it won't be blocked. They have set up filters that catch attempts to send phone numbers and email addresses but these don't work on my trick.

Here's the trick...

Enter the number in 3 lines like this...

first0633

then734

then489

Works every time! So far:)

It may work with Canadian and US numbers but I don't know. If it doesn't try a variation.

FU Ananstasia you evil bastards.

Like the great "Sunscreen song" by Baz Luhrmann says...Don't be reckless with other peoples hearts and don't put up with those who are reckless with yours.

Go Luck to all!

[Faux Pas]

I have a special math talent for analysis and quantification. This allows me to identify scams and deceptive trickery better than most. I have been a member of Anastasia for 2 years and I am currently in Odessa trying my luck with some dating. I have been a minor victim of some nasty women already and I have also been victim of the EVIL Anastasia website and it's complete lack of respect for it's clients. So it's pay back time.

Two years ain't exactly quick.   Seems your math talent may have failed you. How much money have you spent on Anastasia?

[Jumper]

ouch.
but yes 2 months should be enough,
Anastasia ,and particularly thier listings in odessa seem to be well known as extreemly long shots,
without  much research ..

if a man was in ukraine and used them locally,might change that.


as far as defeating the filters, most women are certainly sharp  enough to code their numbers in there,
 IF they really want to .
the assumption they are also wanting to work around the system is the odd one?
Many are not..

Far better to use another method or agency altogether, and simply not pay anastasia anything.. or
waste time with what is quite likely commissioned staff.

[ECOCKS]

Two years ain't exactly quick.   Seems your math talent may have failed you. How much money have you spent on Anastasia?

Ironic Comedy........

My favorite part:

"I have a special math talent for analysis and quantification. This allows me to identify scams and deceptive trickery better than most. I have been a member of Anastasia for 2 years and I am currently in Odessa trying my luck with some dating. I have been a minor victim of some nasty women already and I have also been victim of the EVIL Anastasia website and it's complete lack of respect for it's clients. So it's pay back time."

You beat me to it FP.

Move along, nothing to see here, no agenda in progress....

[GQBlues]

I have a special math talent for analysis and quantification.
This allows me to identify scams and deceptive trickery better than most.
I have been a member of Anastasia for 2 years and I am currently in Odessa trying my luck with some dating.
I have been a minor victim of some nasty women already
and I have also been victim of the EVIL Anastasia website and it's complete lack of respect for it's clients.

So it's pay back time.

LOL.

It's been said that smart people are those who cuts against the grain and do things a bit differently than most. But was it really necessary to face the howling wind to pee?

[veggamattic]

I guess I shouldn't have said I was a member for 2 years. It was deceiving. I didn't even look at the site for 15 months at one stage and then I postponed my trip a second time because of a family death. I'm not using the site much at all. I never ever send and hardly ever reply to messages and I've only really chatted once in a while until I came here. I'm a pretty good looking guy so it's not like I need to spend a lot of money to get attention and responses from the site (I have almost 5000 message in my inbox and I've only opened about 5-6 that were from people I chatted with. I've spent about $300-$400 on chat and another $200 on phone connections before I knew this trick. I have been here 2 weeks and had 12 dates one of which got about $160 out of me. I've already found 2 gorgeous girls that really seem to like me so I don't need to use it anymore.

I was only trying to help people. I didn't expect this type of response.

You guys are dicks...no wonder you can't find women. Bye.

[Jumper]

I understand you were only trying to help.
but to post an *inaccurate* account of your situation , and then get pissy at the replies?

lighten up francis.  

The little money you spent at Anastasia is simply a good lesson in what not to do.
count yourself lucky.
and thanks for trying to warn guys.

The girls you found that actually have any sincere interest in you,
 you could have also found through better  means ,and in person.
 
Giving advice on how guys can *slightly*  manipulate a very poor system for them to use ..
just isn't sound advice ,nor is it going to get any *payback* to anastasia web.
In fact if anything you HELP the website by encouraging guys to even use it at all, with any hope of getting a sincere girl or real contact information.

  As i said before, ANY of the girls that had sincere interest in you there, can, and would have,  found ways on their own to get in direct contact with you.


as far as 5,000 letters,
(i had 8000 in 2 or 3  months)

Try  signing up with no photo at all.. put your age at 93, and you'll still get thousands of  responses in a short amount if time.
Do you see the real issue?

while *the crew* here  was bit rough with you ,
you fail to see the main thing !
 the site is set up with a poor business model for any man seriously looking..
and your advising anyone to use it ,,and try to get a girls number through the filtering system ,
is simply missing the bigger picture.
many of us have been through that ,or it is well known, and most  of us have women in our lives already.


Seriously ,Good luck with the girls you have found!


Noone intended to run you off,
and most would like to hear of your experiences in Odessa or elsewhere in the FSU.

 

[veggamattic]

I just have no time in my life for negative people that behave like that...and I don't believe that you got 8000 responses that quickly. That is about a hundred a day. Unless you are specifically looking for older desperate women stop lying.

I wasn't encouraging using that site only showing how to save money for those who already do...better in there pockets than those bastards.

I'm soured to this experience and I'm gone.........

[viking]

Well then...dosvedanya.

[Turboguy]

Like the great "Sunscreen song" by Baz Luhrmann says...Don't be reckless with other peoples hearts and don't put up with those who are reckless with yours.

Personally I liked that part of your post.  I am sorry you were not greeted with the response you expected but the things you said and the way you said it caused the reaction.  Even though there was more to the story all you said in your first post was that you were a member of A-Web for two years and that they were evil.   I don't think it is fair to fault us for thinking that if it took you two years to figure it out that you were a little slow on the uptake.  

The fact is you can post a profile on A-web saying you are 95 years old, 400 pounds and have a big wart on the end of your nose and only $ 10.00 in the bank and be deluged with 21 year old beauty queens.  

You were scammed I am sure and I am sorry to hear that.  There is a lot of knowledge here from those who have made similar mistakes and a lot to be gained by participating at RWD.  It is always much cheaper, easier and less emotionally draining to learn from the mistakes others have made before you.  It sounds like you have learned a lot of things the hard way.  I think it would be far wiser of you to not throw in the RWD towel but instead to read a lot and ask questions that might help you but that is your choice.  One way or the other, thanks for posting and I wish you luck in your search.

[Shadow]

I just have no time in my life for negative people that behave like that...and I don't believe that you got 8000 responses that quickly. That is about a hundred a day. Unless you are specifically looking for older desperate women stop lying.

I wasn't encouraging using that site only showing how to save money for those who already do...better in there pockets than those bastards.

I'm soured to this experience and I'm gone.........

You may have some good talents, but patience and a mild temper seem not to be among them. And believe me you will need both if you are going to marry any woman from the FSU.
Yes there are exceptions, but among the values of FSUW you will never find them to be forgiving to a " caprice "  person.

[wicheese]

I just have no time in my life for negative people that behave like that...and I don't believe that you got 8000 responses that quickly. That is about a hundred a day. Unless you are specifically looking for older desperate women stop lying.

I wasn't encouraging using that site only showing how to save money for those who already do...better in there pockets than those bastards.

I'm soured to this experience and I'm gone.........

Vegga,

I think what most people were saying is to not even bother with Aweb, if you try to beat the site by using chat, then you still have coins falling out of your pocket.  I'm pretty sure I spent more money than you with them before I learned my lesson and what I tell people is to stay away from sites like that period (actually I tell anyone who will listen to look in their own country).  BTW, I believe AJ as HRB was a hot topic here recently (very similar to Aweb) and I was over 2,000 emails in a pretty short period of time and I'm just average...

Anyways, thanks for sharing!

[Daveman]

Vegga,

I think what most people were saying is to not even bother with Aweb, if you try to beat the site by using chat, then you still have coins falling out of your pocket.  I'm pretty sure I spent more money than you with them before I learned my lesson and what I tell people is to stay away from sites like that period (actually I tell anyone who will listen to look in their own country).  BTW, I believe AJ as HRB was a hot topic here recently (very similar to Aweb) and I was over 2,000 emails in a pretty short period of time and I'm just average...

Anyways, thanks for sharing!

>> if you try to beat the site by using chat, then you still have coins falling out of your pocket. <<

The only truly logical (imo) way I've seen to possibly "beat" A-web is the patented Kievstar method of "Write None", show your butt up at the anastasia office (in whatever city), get to know the staff and just go from there.  I have not tried this, but it makes the most sense to me.  Just go meet them and piss on all the contact mazes.

[tim 360]

I have a special math talent for analysis and quantification. This allows me to identify scams and deceptive trickery better than most. I have been a member of Anastasia for 2 years and I am currently in Odessa trying my luck with some dating. I have been a minor victim of some nasty women already and I have also been victim of the EVIL Anastasia website and it's complete lack of respect for it's clients. So it's pay back time.

You probably didn't get the response you desired on your first post because you came on a wee bit strong.  I think everyone here knows the modus operandi of AW so your news was kinda ho-hum and why on earth would anyone use them for 2 years.  So don't run away.

There is a good post here by Kievstar (in Ukraine) that tells you how to win with AW--if thats what you're shooting for.

If you are too thin-skinned this is not the best place for you since not everyone will agree with you. Grow some callaus.  If you need affirmation...pray often.   

[I/O]

veggie: In the old days we called characters like you idiots. These days we aren't allowed to so I won't.

95 years old, 400 pounds and have a big wart on the end of your nose and only $ 10.00 in the bank

Coming out Turbo?

[acrzybear]

I just have no time in my life for negative people that behave like that...and I don't believe that you got 8000 responses that quickly. That is about a hundred a day. Unless you are specifically looking for older desperate women stop lying.

I wasn't encouraging using that site only showing how to save money for those who already do...better in there pockets than those bastards.

I'm soured to this experience and I'm gone.........

hhhmmmm Abit sensitive are we?     

[Jumper]

I just have no time in my life for negative people that behave like that...and I don't believe that you got 8000 responses that quickly. That is about a hundred a day. Unless you are specifically looking for older desperate women stop lying.

I wasn't encouraging using that site only showing how to save money for those who already do...better in there pockets than those bastards.

I'm soured to this experience and I'm gone.........

ok i know your feathers got ruffled ,you were only tyrying to help ,
and most of us would like to hear your story..

so why call experienced people  liers?
Odds are pretty great i've no reason to misrepresent anything here?
afterall i've been thru this whole process before,dated in Ukriane,  have  many trips there,
years ago   married in ukraine , and eventually divorced from a RW. (UW)

As far as Aweb,  I certainly  got a hundred a day when first joining,.?
in fact initial weeks  it  was more like 200 to 300 per day and tapered down to 120 to 150 a day
If it is less now , maybe they don't have as many girls..
I did not target anyone, as I never sent a single letter.
The contacts were almost all from young attractive women.. imagine.
(maybe is was the dolphin in my photo,I don't know  )
The 8,000 letters was over the course of 2 or 3 months, 5 months tops! as i cancelled my membership then.
They certainly were not all unique letters, as you'll typically get several from the same *woman* or *worker* depending on how you like to view things.I've done more than a bit of time on these sites for various reasons, both personal,
and simply researching thier business models.

My point wasn't anything about my own amount of letters at Aweb ,  DM or at HRB,
or an other agency with this business model.

It was about the fact any random, mostly  blank profile, at these places  would get thousands of responces.
It was simply to make you aware the sham factor you are warning about,
 is perhaps larger and more involved than you may think.
Maybe you are already aware, i dont know.

Again good luck, I mean that.

I'm not negative about my experience there at all,but i am a realist.
Odds are very poor for a man going to Odessa going thru any of those agencies to find any sincerety.
 I also know from experince that there  are indeed sincere women listed with Aweb ,DM, HRB, and other such agencies,
and i hope you have found one.

Like i mentioned before, more people here would be interested and  benefit from hearing about your first hand experiences in Odessa itself.

Seems you've found some good girls ..
but if you wanted any additional oprtions, and  are now in Odessa?
I'd advise you to contact (personal message) some members here that are in this business.
 Strilitz who i believe lives in, or near Odessa,
and Jack, who many be in ukraine now? or back in the states,
both work at this, and could give you some good options for the city,or help out some if you needed it.
(maybe Ace as well,i'm not sure where in ukraine he is located)

[GQBlues]

...Like i mentioned before, more people here would be interested and  benefit from hearing about your first hand experiences in Odessa itself....

Yeppers - and you can make that a double for me. 

Since you're in Odessa and would really like to share/help educate newbies, filing a T/R here would be extra nice...

[tfcrew]

lighten up francis.

I didn't see where Veggimatic's name is Francis or did you just throw that in? 

 

(i had 8000 [replies]in 2 or 3  months)

There are that many chicks at Anastasia?
 

No one intended to run you off,

 
They always post and are gone before I get on site.

Veggie, understand that you can't just generalize stuff when it comes to some vast range ...long distance affair. There's a certain amount of some smirk dick in all of us when it seems that we're being  all lumped together like we are all just a gang of clueless dummies. 
My wife was a manager when she was still in Odessa and I just simply called that number using a phone card. Worked every time [sometimes] Remember that if you tend to generalize...you just  might tend to be generally wrong.

Karl


 

[Turboguy]

 There are that many chicks at Anastasia?
  

Heck, you don't need to have that many chicks.  The agency girls use a lot of identities.  It could be one girl with 8000 identities. but more likely a lot of ladies who write different things to see what will snag a guy and make her some money.

[FredC]

I didn't see where Veggimatic's name is Francis or did you just throw that in? 

 The Francis line is from the movie "Stripes"......the character Psycho's real name was Francis.

[BillyB]

I wasn't encouraging using that site only showing how to save money for those who already do...better in there pockets than those bastards.

Actually you may be encouraging more men to sign up at Anastasia by giving them advice on how to beat the system.

A few times over the years men have come to the forum and pleaded for help to get contact info from a lady at one of the big bad agencies. I gave them advice similiar to yours to get phone and email info. Now I don't post the advice on the open forum anymore because I've seen guys armed with the advice thinking they can beat the agency. They end up coming back later to tell the forum they got their butt kicked for the first time or even again after spending hundreds or even thousands. Life is tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid.

The only truly logical (imo) way I've seen to possibly "beat" A-web is the patented Kievstar method of "Write None", show your butt up at the anastasia office (in whatever city), get to know the staff and just go from there.  I have not tried this, but it makes the most sense to me.  Just go meet them and piss on all the contact mazes.

Can't beat Aweb like that either. They know what ways guys will try to get around their system and they are prepared. When I went to Kiev, the manager of the apartment I rented liked me a lot. He told me if it doesn't work out with the girl I was visiting and I decided to use an agency, first contact him so he can put in a good word that I'm one of the good guys. He said if I just walked in off the street, they wouldn't care about who I was dating after choosing ladies out of their catalogue. He would make sure they would let me know who is serious or not serious. So if a guy walked in off the street, he may be taken by pro daters. Who knows? Maybe the pro daters are giving a kickback to the agency staff to make sure walk ins are to date them first.

[Jumper]

I didn't see where Veggimatic's name is Francis or did you just throw that in? 

 The Francis line is from the movie "Stripes"......the character Psycho's real name was Francis.

exactly, just a movie quote that seemed to fit at the moment.


tfcrew, there are certainly more profiles than that ..
 but as  i mentioned anyone silly enough to have  experience on these type of agencies  knows you get a
ton of spam ,a lot from the same profiles. My point was smply pointing out to the OP, that 5,000 is quite normal at such agencies, and that the great bulk of it is indeed spam..
ANY mans  profile there genrates the same result, thousands and thousands of letters.
work arounds just don't "work" in such lopsided scenario.
Guys signed up there already should cut thier loses ,not try such tactics in that environment.
 

[Chelseaboy]

I've got a profile on Anastasia.It's fully completed ,but with no photo.I get between 5 and ten stunners write to me every day,and none of them are repeat offenders.
I have written to no-one,after i saw these girls writing to me before i had a chance to put my photo up.
I cannot imagine any sincere woman would write first to a man with no photo.