Russian/Ukrainan but how about Belarusian/Latvian etc.?

[Walerian]

Hey guys,

I´m quite new here. I was curious because there is a lot of talk of the term FSU, former Soviet Union. Yet all the ones posting have wives from either Russia or Ukraine. I don´t think I´ve ever seen another country displayed (like Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Belarus, Kazakstan and so on).

Why is that? Is it only because of size (Russia and Ukraine having the biggest populations by far) or is there something else?

[I/O]

Just where the %'s fall. Plenty are hooked up with people from the areas you mention.

[Vinnvinny]

Howdy Walerian. There's no such MOB industry in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania as such so that would exclude many guys who prefer the 'ease' of that route. The reason for this is that those countries are in the EU so their ladies enjoy freedom of travel and don't needs rescuing from their men. The young pretty ones have 'left the building' as they say.

Guys do go to the Stans and some have been successfull. Belarus doesn't like losing its gals so bride seekers are typically shot on site (usually at the airport or in their hotel room).

Moldova remains a mystery, in more ways than one.

Others might not agree.

[I/O]

There's no such MOB industry in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania as such so that would exclude many guys who prefer the 'ease' of that route.

Maybe but plenty of "easy roots" there.

Moldova remains a mystery

There too.

[Kuna]

I was in Latvia before my first trip to Ukraine (early 2007) and saw little to no evidence of any local ladies wanting to leave.  Euros were flooding in,  incomes had grown dramatically,  everyone was participating in the new economy of fresh debt...

The HUGE downside for foreign men seeking wives was the total destruction of westerners image from the influx of pommy buck parties / drinking weekends. Parts of "Old Riga" seemed to cater for these parties by having strip club after strip club lining the street while some restaurants and bars had signs on the doors "NO ENGLISH BUCK PARTIES".

A lot of people were very guarded with me until they discoveed I was Australian not English... and a few actually commentedon the drunken jobbo factor.

Anyway,  I think if you're seeking marriage and considering Latvia you may as well start lookign in Germany, France and Sweden too...  wouldn't be much difference.

There are members here who married Latvian ladies but I think it'd be fairly rare now.

[Walerian]

Howdy Walerian. There's no such MOB industry in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania as such so that would exclude many guys who prefer the 'ease' of that route. The reason for this is that those countries are in the EU so their ladies enjoy freedom of travel and don't needs rescuing from their men. The young pretty ones have 'left the building' as they say.

Guys do go to the Stans and some have been successfull. Belarus doesn't like losing its gals so bride seekers are typically shot on site (usually at the airport or in their hotel room).

Moldova remains a mystery, in more ways than one.

Others might not agree.

Haha, about Belarus, are you serious? You never know with such countries :p

I was in Latvia before my first trip to Ukraine (early 2007) and saw little to no evidence of any local ladies wanting to leave.  Euros were flooding in,  incomes had grown dramatically,  everyone was participating in the new economy of fresh debt...

The HUGE downside for foreign men seeking wives was the total destruction of westerners image from the influx of pommy buck parties / drinking weekends. Parts of "Old Riga" seemed to cater for these parties by having strip club after strip club lining the street while some restaurants and bars had signs on the doors "NO ENGLISH BUCK PARTIES".

A lot of people were very guarded with me until they discoveed I was Australian not English... and a few actually commentedon the drunken jobbo factor.

Anyway,  I think if you're seeking marriage and considering Latvia you may as well start lookign in Germany, France and Sweden too...  wouldn't be much difference.

There are members here who married Latvian ladies but I think it'd be fairly rare now.

But the reason I would be searching in eastern europe to begin with is because of the more traditional values, women being more feminine, caring more for their appearance etc. Does that not also hold true for the eastern baltic nations (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania)?

I´m not hell bent on bringing them to my country. I can consider living in eastern europe too. And btw, I´m from Sweden so I know quite well what kind of ladies you find here

[viking]

My wife is from Belarus and I have been there several times. Nobody shoots anybody and in fact it is a pretty safe country to visit and find yourself a nice woman. Its just a bit more difficult, visa/travel wise than flying into Russia or UKR.

[Vinnvinny]

But the reason I would be searching in eastern europe to begin with is because of the more traditional values, women being more feminine, caring more for their appearance etc.

They certainly look better than ladies in the west but as regards traditional values etc then that's all agency speak.

My wife is from Belarus and I have been there several times. Nobody shoots anybody and in fact it is a pretty safe country to visit and find yourself a nice woman. Its just a bit more difficult, visa/travel wise than flying into Russia or UKR.

So much misinformation around in this caper ...... I've clearly been mislead.

[Vinnvinny]

Here's a nice looking girl from Moldova for you Walerian:

http://www.cuteonly.com/users/oliga5

A bit of patience on your part is recommended though should you want to make an honest woman out of her.

And this little damsel in a dress from Belarus, who certainly believes in casting her net wide.

http://www.cuteonly.com/users/nemec/

I wonder what she has against 62 year olds?

[Boethius]

They certainly look better than ladies in the west

I don't think that is true, either.  They do display their "goods" more, and wear heels, which WW don't wear on the streets. 

[Vinnvinny]

I don't think that is true, either.  They do display their "goods" more, and wear heels, which WW don't wear on the streets. 

From my perspective and on average they look prettier in the face and slimmer in the body and physically that's all that interests me. It's a no contest sorry, both my brains agree.

[Boethius]

I have made this observation here primarily because of this board.

I see lots of attractive, slim women in my city.  Most though, are on the arms of equally attractive slim men.  What I don't see here, which I do see in Ukraine, is women dressed very provocatively.

ETA - Or very young women (teens/early twenties) hanging off the arms of men who are 50 plus.  Perhaps WW are just shallow and not looking for true love. :evil:

[Vinnvinny]

I have made this observation here primarily because of this board.

Mine was made in real life.

I see lots of attractive, slim women in my city.  Most though, are on the arms of equally attractive slim men.  What I don't see here, which I do see in Ukraine, is women dressed very provocatively.

Where I live the ladies are predominantly fat though the guys are mainly slim. Of an evening ladies here dress far more provocatively than ladies in Ukraine. During the days Ukrainian ladies let more hang out.

ETA - Or very young women (teens/early twenties) hanging off the arms of men who are 50 plus.  Perhaps WW are just shallow and not looking for true love. :evil:

In approaching nearly 40 visits to Ukraine and many more to other ‘FSU’ parts then I have seen what you describe on only a handful of occasions. I felt quiet conspicuous at times.

[Boethius]

Mine was made IRL as well.  My point was, I don't usually pay much attention to women.

Where I live, women are almost always dressed far less provocatively than Ukrainian women.   I don't go to night clubs in either locale, but I often drive by the club district here and see how twenty somethings are dressed. I think we have a more conservative culture.

I have seen a fair number of young girls with old geezers (my definition is a moving target with the years  ) while in Ukraine, the last time was in August.   

[Chicagoguy]

We know a couple of girls from Modova who arrived in U.S. on J-1 visas. When I asked about their country they replied that their leader was worse than Stalin. Thay said it was a terrible place. I then asked if they were going to overstay their visa's and they said "for sure". That was last year and they were still here this past Summer.

But I am not sure about MOB's from there. A friend of mine did marry a woman from Belarus but he did not like the country very much. Especially the leader.

[Vinnvinny]

And btw, I´m from Sweden so I know quite well what kind of ladies you find here

And me. 

[GQBlues]

Where I live the ladies are predominantly fat though the guys are mainly slim.

You should've just moved out 2 or 3 streets over, Vinny.  

According to the latest census, the UK population is at 61,792,000. There's 1.04 female to male ratio, or 617,920 more females than males - 31,513,920 / 30,278,080. Relatively even.

22.8% of women are classified as obese while 22.1% of males are classified as obese according to the same site.

'Parred' to halved the hole, as they say in golf. Or more to the point, "Snowman" to halved the hole.

The fact there are far more females (617,920) than males, how much of that number carry much weight (no pun intended) to the distribution, suitability, availability of your population, only Pelosi knows.

However, your national obesity ratio hardly mirrors your personal circumstances. At least not according to your national averages.

[Walerian]

And me. 

Haha. Sure swedish women can certainly be beautiful. It is more the personality part that is the problem. But also that more and more of the swedish girls are getting fatter and fatter as the western culture does its thing to the human body :p

You should've just moved out 2 or 3 streets over, Vinny.  

According to the latest census, the UK population is at 61,792,000. There's 1.04 female to male ratio, or 617,920 more females than males - 31,513,920 / 30,278,080. Relatively even.

22.8% of women are classified as obese while 22.1% of males are classified as obese according to the same site.

'Parred' to halved the hole, as they say in golf. Or more to the point, "Snowman" to halved the hole.

The fact there are far more females (617,920) than males, how much of that number carry much weight (no pun intended) to the distribution, suitability, availability of your population, only Pelosi knows.

However, your national obesity ratio hardly mirrors your personal circumstances. At least not according to your national averages.

To be defined as obese, it has to be really really bad. Any statistics that include everything but slim?

[Manny]

Hey guys,

I´m quite new here. I was curious because there is a lot of talk of the term FSU, former Soviet Union. Yet all the ones posting have wives from either Russia or Ukraine. I don´t think I´ve ever seen another country displayed (like Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Belarus, Kazakstan and so on).

Why is that? Is it only because of size (Russia and Ukraine having the biggest populations by far) or is there something else?

Estonia is finished as far as MOB goes. Any you will find will be in Narva by the Russian border. Any others may not be ideal on other ways. You will meet displaced Russians there; Estonian women wont flicker an interest at a foreigner unless you live there and have money. Many of those you will find around Tallinn are faded thirty-something party girls. Mostly not wife material.

Latvia, pretty similar. Get out in the sticks way from Riga and maybe.

Lithuania is the poor relation of the Baltics. You will find women there. Again, mostly displaced Russians. Abject poverty in Gucci shades is what I saw there. Some very slim women there. Many of what my wife calls "girls from the forest" there.

While you are in that neck of the woods, look at Kaliningrad. Its Russia but an exclave where nobody goes.

Belarus -- yes, many men report success there. It is off the usual "MOB" hunting trail for the most part. Many men also are starting to look in Kazakhstan and Moldova too.

[Manny]

I´m not hell bent on bringing them to my country. I can consider living in eastern europe too. And btw, I´m from Sweden so I know quite well what kind of ladies you find her

I missed that bit. If you want to relocate try the outskirts of Tallinn near the airport. Swedish style houses and no shortage of women if you actually live there; especially on a Swedish salary. Hey, they even have Swedbank there!

If you want to relocate, look around the Polish side of the border with Lithuania too. A Great place to live and a lot of nice folks too. 

[seraphimangel]

LOL.  I can't comment on Belarus at all, but I'm pretty familiar with the Baltic states. 

BTW, countries of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are referred to as the Baltic states.

If I were to generalize, I'd say... Estonians are generally the most stoic of the bunch.  Latvians are a middle ground and Lithuanians are your warmer variety by western standards.  It also happens to be that Estonians and Latvians are generally orthodox and Lithuanians are catholics. 

After everything, I think the best relationship I have now is with a Latvian girl and a girl from Yekaterinburg in Russia.  So, all things being equal.... I met both of them, from friends while visiting, never online.... but I think I sell better live then in email =)

[neo]

The UK has been flooded with "escorts" from the Baltics (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia). As has been mentioned if a girl wants to come to the west, is attractive she can get on a 40 dollar eurolines bus and be in victoria station in 10 hours and command 500 USD a hour servicing clients or up to 1,000 a night working as a lap dancer. Same for Czech, Slovak, Romanian and Bulgarian girls.

I did meet a very attractive Romanian girl in amsterdam who was keen to pursue a relationship, unfortunately her choice of night job precluded ongoing relations.

Belarus has to be the most crime ridden, gangster managed fleapit I have ever visited (for work not pleasure). it would make Ukraine seem well managed, its just not worth the aggravation.

Moldova is a bit of a funny place, Romanian girls are hot, but the best looking ones do well as pornstars/dancers and don't really need a man to further their economic situation, same with Hungary.

Ukraine probably gets the most attention because its still run as a tinpot dictatorship and corruption is so rife that most honest people are sick of it and thats the prime reason they want to leave. its impossible to start a honest business or get a honest job that doesn't involve bribery/payoffs and being threatened or intimidated. Lots of pretty young girls, most are wary of taking jobs in the west as its had one of the highest reported numbers of trafficked women in the world. Job prospects are quite poor, you either work in a rubbish job for bad pay or have to sleep with a manager to get a better job, i suspect lots of westerners go there because there is easier visa requirements to visit and at least for a lot of countries Ukraine is an allie rather than a enemy, lots of embassies regard Russia as being dodgy and therefore are much tougher on granting visas to its citizens, just as travelling there can be a nightmare if you end up on the wrong side of the all-powerful state.

[craig336]

Hello I'm relatively new here, but have recently started communication with a woman from Belarus. My question is are the women there trust worthy? And would it be out of the question to ask to meet her in the fsu or another "safe" country?

[viking]

My wife is from Belarus. I first met her in Varna, Bulgaria. Any women would be up for a vacation someplace else. Just be prepared to pay for just about everything including her travel arrangements. And you may wind up paying for two separate rooms as well. As far as trustworthy? Its not the country but the woman. Make sure you know her well enough before you commit to something like this.

[planner]

My info is slightly outdated as I've been married to a woman from Latvia for almost 7 years.  She's ethnically Russian.  I'm not sure how Latvia was allowed into the EU without first fixing the problem of not giving citizenship to Russians who were born and raised there.  There is some tension around that issue as some Russians living there, when the evil empire dissolved, are now not citizens of anywhere.  Anyway, I found my wife in Russia where she was working temporarily.  She was from a smaller town in Latvia, Ventspils.  Also know a man who found a wife while on business in Kaliningrad, she was from a city in SE Latvia, also Russian.  The two could easily have been sisters by appearance.