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permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« on: March 05, 2011, 12:25:48 PM »
Maybe I am reading this incorrectly but it seems that my stepson must be registered for Selective Service before he can apply for citizenship. Is this true?
Here is the question on the N-400:
Are you a male who lived in the United States at any time between your 18th and 26th birthdays in any status except as a lawful non-immigrant?
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Re: permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2011, 12:40:05 PM »
According to the Selective Sevice website he has to regisiter;




http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm

NON-CITIZENS
Some non-citizens are required to register. Others are not. Noncitizens who are not required to register with Selective Service include men who are in the U.S. on student or visitor visas, and men who are part of a diplomatic or trade mission and their families. Almost all other male noncitizens are required to register, including illegal aliens, legal permanent residents, and refugees. The general rule is that if a male noncitizen takes up residency in the U.S. before his 26th birthday, he must register with Selective Service. For a more detailed list of which non-citizens must register, see Who Must Register - Chart
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Re: permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2011, 06:11:53 PM »
Maybe I am reading this incorrectly but it seems that my stepson must be registered for Selective Service before he can apply for citizenship. Is this true?...
Pardon my ignorance, but what is Selective Service and why do foreigners have to register for it?

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Re: permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2011, 06:22:48 PM »
Selective Service is the armed services ( army, navy, marines, air force). Any male permanent resident between 18 and 26 must register. As well as other categories. Years ago we had a draft, where you HAD to go into the armed forces, think the WW2 and Vietnam. This is not true today. Now it is strictly volunteer. However...in the event there is a major problem... the government wants to know who is out there that is eligible.

SOC. Yep. He has to register. Personally speaking, if he did join one of the services, it might be one of the best things he did.
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Re: permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2011, 07:15:19 PM »
Years ago we had a draft, where you HAD to go into the armed forces, think the WW2 and Vietnam.

Korea also.

Personally speaking, if he did join one of the services, it might be one of the best things he did.

Didn't seem to help Elvis. :noidea:

http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/elvisandtheusarmy.shtml

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Re: permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2011, 09:53:47 PM »
Didn't seem to hurt him either.
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Re: permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 01:36:53 AM »
Maybe I am reading this incorrectly but it seems that my stepson must be registered for Selective Service before he can apply for citizenship. Is this true?
Here is the question on the N-400:
Are you a male who lived in the United States at any time between your 18th and 26th birthdays in any status except as a lawful non-immigrant?

Nobody has asked yet so I will, does your stepson speak English? 

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Re: permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2011, 10:02:37 PM »
Yes he speaks english very well having lost most of his accent over the last 5 years.

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Re: permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2011, 06:30:43 PM »
Yes he speaks english very well having lost most of his accent over the last 5 years.

I don't doubt he speaks English very well.

But very unlikely he has lost most of his accent.

What happens to those of us who are around them is; we get used to the accent, so it seems to be lessening, but it really isn't.

Another interesting phenomena.  When I am talking one on one with FSU people, I don't notice their accent.  (But keep in mind, I have been around them for several years).  This is unfortunate because the women are supposed to have a sexy accent.

However, when the person I am with then starts talking back and forth in English with a 3rd person; their accent becomes very noticeable to me.

Anyone else notice or experience this phenomena; i.e. only noticing the accent when a 3rd party is involved?
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Re: permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2011, 12:40:09 AM »
I don't doubt he speaks English very well.

But very unlikely he has lost most of his accent.

Au contraire. When children emigrate to the West, quite often they do very well in assimilating the local language and often eliminate either all or nearly all of their previous accent, at least in normal conversation. As we age, this ability diminishes in most people. The speed with which native-like fluency is attained is also often a function of the age of the child. A young child is often a sponge who soaks up the new language with a speed that must be experienced to be believed--I have even seen very young kids gain a surprising, unaccented fluency simply by staying glued to the television many hours per day in their new environment.

I met one young man who had arrived with his mother in Texas when he was five. He was put in a local kindergarten for a year, then in the public school for first grade. He had little trouble with language in first grade. I met him after his third grade year, and his accent was undetectable--and my ear for accents is actually quite good. He continued to speak Russian with his mom at home, by the way. She had become quite good at English herself although she still retained an accent.

We do become accustomed to accents we are exposed to regularly, but whether we "hear" them as accents depends upon the individual.

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Re: permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2011, 12:01:06 PM »
I believe accent lessens. Each semester, I am exposed to a group of new people. When I only came to college, people often had stressed face trying to decipher my speech. Efforts were written all over their faces. Now, people faces often remain relaxed and they response quicker. I think it is a good indicator of accent lessening.
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Re: permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2011, 06:32:43 AM »
ManLooking I am not really saying that I think he has lost most of his accent. I am mentioning what my friends notice when they speak to him for the first time.

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Re: permanent us resident and selective service requirement
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2011, 11:27:22 AM »
VWRW

It could also mean that your english has improved so much that when you speak, you are not only more confidant but you structure your sentences more proficiently than you did only a few years ago.
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