Men are from Mars, women from Venus.Society for those who want to understand

[Shostakovich]

Zigmund ,sweetheart.,this is you again??

A good guess, that was the one about whom Zigmund said: "I had to stop reading Nietzsche, or else I would not have anything original to say".

[Shostakovich]

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Afternoon Dear "S" ,what do u think about this vocal???

Think?  A tender song.

[Sia]

A good guess, that was the one about whom Zigmund said: "I had to stop reading Nietzsche, or else I would not have anything original to say".

we're discussing the fact that everything tends to the truth, and to it we are going in different ways.Smbd just moves his feet and stumbles upon the knowledge through a physical experience , someone through meditation, one becomes a Teacher, someone the task to be simple to apprentice at some point to initiate another in Master. New Day cant be without night, no nonsense wisdom ... and so on

[Shostakovich]

we're discussing the fact that everything tends to the truth, and to it we are going in different ways.Smbd just moves his feet and stumbles upon the knowledge through a physical experience , someone through meditation, one becomes a Teacher, someone the task to be simple to apprentice at some point to initiate another in Master. New Day cant be without night, no nonsense wisdom ... and so on

Oooh, but I do not agree with this.  Truth can not be achieved without intention - bumbling along most normally runs one around the same old circle.  If it were not so then the old would always be wise, but it is most often not so.

[Sia]

Did you read the theory about reality -Transerfing and thoughtforms? The fact that all that we have in the dry residue in the material world is, as something different outcome intent embodied in the idea, the thought makes us work in partnership soul and mind and realize the inner thoughts of the external-ie physical embodiment?

What are you talking about-duplicate proven parapsychological experiments. The same thing .. an example of athletes who used visualization before training process to achieve results ... dubbing in the head, mounting options, and implementation of an example in real time after.

[Shostakovich]

Did you read the theory about reality -Transerfing and thoughtforms? The fact that all that we have in the dry residue in the material world is, as something different outcome intent embodied in the idea, the thought makes us work in partnership soul and mind and realize the inner thoughts of the external-ie physical embodiment?

What are you talking about-duplicate proven parapsychological experiments. The same thing .. an example of athletes who used visualization before training process to achieve results ... dubbing in the head, mounting options, and implementation of an example in real time after.

Hmmmn, I'd say the intention towards truth is a little different than the intention towards a specific outcome or aim, such as victory in an athletic contest.  In the later the objective is clear and so one can form a clear mental focus, aiding in one's performance.  Truth is a dimension beyond and can not be visualized, as it is precisely the mind's limitation that is to be overcome.  And a visualization is the product of the mind.  Tricky.

[Sia]

before I sleep, for you question:

What for you is TRUE?
 Truth can be tangible and not tangible?
Why do you separete it ?))))

My IMHO...just mine....
Truth is even in a lie ... truth has no ratings, it just IS ... visible, not visible,from the flesh of the thoughts of feelings of foreboding, the fear, joy, We, too, the truth .... . Molecular scheme, variation, diced into chaos, more precisely in the Nothing .... even if we stand, we find ourselves at the desired point faster than a racehorse. And u know this,S

all ...gone ... until the next day everybody Since you,guys and Lady do not even boring ... a compliment to all boys .Bravo!

[Shostakovich]

before I sleep, for you question:

What for you is TRUE?
 Truth can be tangible and not tangible?

Why do you separete it ?))))
Because they should be separated in order to understand them better.  Objective truth is in a very different category than subjective truth.  The former is governed by logic and reason and the later is known in a self referencing way, it is irrational and interestingly, forms the basis of any objective knowledge since the irrational datum, "I exist", forms the basis of any observation.

My IMHO...just mine....
Truth is even in a lie ...

Solly - can not be.  Shostakovich takes Sia to task.  This is not sensible.  If there is no truth then "Truth is a lie" can not be true.  But if "Truth is a lie" is a lie then truth really is true  truth has no ratings, it just IS ... visible, not visible,from the flesh of the thoughts of feelings of foreboding, the fear, joy, We, too, the truth .... . Molecular scheme, variation, diced into chaos, more precisely in the Nothing .... even if we stand, we find ourselves at the desired point faster than a racehorse. And u know this,S

But I do agree that truth in its higher aspect can not be represented in words, in which case, does it even make sense to discuss it?  Yes, because our world is a paradox.

all ...gone ... until the next day everybody Since you,guys and Lady do not even boring ... a compliment to all boys .Bravo!

[Muzh]

Solly - can not be.  Shostakovich takes Sia to task.  This is not sensible.  If there is no truth then "Truth is a lie" can not be true.  But if "Truth is a lie" is a lie then truth really is true 

Spock, is that true?

[Shostakovich]

Spock, is that true?

Live long and prosper

[erudite]

Truth is a child's kiss or a dog's lick on your hand.

[Shostakovich]

Truth is a child's kiss or a dog's lick on your hand.

Is that the truth?

[XMan]

Truth is like absolute zero.
In the purest sense, it is unattainable.

[Steamer]

Is that the truth?

It's not a lie.

[Sia]

Boys are not in dispute that was before-chicken or the egg .... It was all at once. Read about the paradox of Schrodinger cat.

And let us live peacefully.

and return to the topic of men and women. I would like to better understand you.

[XMan]

Men and women may be able to communicate well with each other.
They may be able to adapt to the idiosyncrasies of each other (in individual, specific circumstances).
They may enjoy interesting and valuable relationships.
They may even spend an entire lifetime together.
But they will never understand each other. 
You are seeking that which cannot be discovered.
You may as well search for the fountain of youth or a city of gold.

[Steamer]

Truth is a child's kiss or a dog's lick on your hand.

Simplicity is a virtue. Over analysis leads to despair.

[erudite]

Double posted when I added to my list, sorry about that. Hit Quote instead.

[erudite]

Returning to the topic of men and women, let us pose this "truth" question.................

A significant female other (spouse, lover, etc.) will want the "truth" about these questions posed to her mate. Do you think she will really want the TRUTH if she doesn't like the objective answer?  This "truth" is known as "balanced truth" which means it balances between future harmony and the actual truth (assuming it should be told).  A Martian/man should always know and fully appreciate the difference between "TRUTH" and "BALANCED TRUTH" when dealing with a Venus/woman.   Each has its own virtues, validity and relative honesty in the scheme of things.

Do you like my new hair style/color?
Does this dress make me look fat?
Do these pants make my A** look fat?
Am I the best lover in bed you have ever been with?
What do you think I am?
Do you think I am being ridiculous?
Have you been listening to me?
Do you think SHE is pretty or sexy?
What were you and so in so talking about?
Why are you laughing?
Is is MY job to put gas in the car?
Why didn't you answer your phone when I called?
I don't like the way I look in that picture, what do you think?
How did you like the new dish I cooked?
Do you really want to try that with me?
Do you really want me to do that?
Tell me what you are thinking about.
Did you think that was funny?
Is that supposed to be a joke?

[Blues Fairy]

But they will never understand each other. 

Nonsense; any human can perfectly understand any other human if they make an effort to understand and be understood, i.e. behave rationally and communicate clearly.  It takes a bit of training, but it's not impossible. 

[Sia]

Nonsense; any human can perfectly understand any other human if they make an effort to understand and be understood, i.e. behave rationally and communicate clearly.  It takes a bit of training, but it's not impossible. 

Hi! Full solidarity. Simply say, oh yes, men and women like cats and dogs, they will never understand each other.Maybe easy to say, I'm too lazy to listen and understand you? At least it's an honest answer.

[LAman]

 
" A Martian/man should always know and fully appreciate the difference between "TRUTH" and "BALANCED TRUTH" when dealing with a Venus/woman.   Each has its own virtues, validity and relative honesty in the scheme of things. "
How's about 'absolute truths'?  

Do you think I am being ridiculous?    I love you dear!!

Have you been listening to me?        I love you too!!!

Do you think SHE is pretty or sexy?   I love you always!!!!

What were you and so in so talking about?  Did I tell you I love you....

Why are you laughing?                    Cause I love you....

Is is MY job to put gas in the car?     Love is.....

Why didn't you answer your phone when I called? Isn't love wonderful!!!!

I don't like the way I look in that picture, what do you think? I love you more than I can say!!!

How did you like the new dish I cooked?  Love dear, love!!!!

Do you really want to try that with me?   Of course dear, I love you.

Do you really want me to do that?     Love is in the air!!!!
          
Tell me what you are thinking about.  Love, love, love....

Did you think that was funny?          Did I tell you I love you!!!!

Is that supposed to be a joke?         Love is all it is........

[JR]

Truth cares not for belief.

[Muzh]

Sia, just for you. Let me know if you need translation.

Edit: Oops, Technical difficulties. Trying to embed a youtube.

A little help. I clicked on the youtube icon and then pasted the embbeded code in between. Is this wrong?

Okay, now that Sandro gave me some pointers, let's try this again.

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[XMan]

Nonsense; any human can perfectly understand any other human if they make an effort to understand and be understood, i.e. behave rationally and communicate clearly.  It takes a bit of training, but it's not impossible. 

I strongly but respectfully disagree. 
I know many others who feel similarly.