Anastasia Date.... Are they taken seriously?

[Kapitanleutnant]

Gents,

So I'm looking at their website and notice lots of good looking girls in the photos, which I know is just the eye candy to get you in the door.   Then, I go to the "women online" section and e-v-e-r-y  s-i-n-g-l-e woman in the first 10 pages of those "supposedly online" and wanting to talk to me... were frikken Perfect model material and all from about 18 to maybe 25..... every single one of them.   

I have to tell you that I have a hard time that each of those girls A) has a computer at home or is using one at a cafe and B) that they are really the ones sitting at the computer vs the proverbial "Fat Yuri" I keep reading about from you experts.

Can someone tell me I"m simply wrong and that AD is legit?   As I went thru their website, I honestly thought they would/could/should be my choice for an agency office to use on an upcoming trip for meeting some local woman there. 

Thanks for your opinions

K

[viking]

Gents,
Can someone tell me I"m simply wrong and that AD is legit?  
K

You are NOT wrong.

[Muzh]

Mon Kapitan:

Since you insist; you are NOT wrong.

Ain't this fun?

[Kapitanleutnant]

Yes, it's definitely fun.....

However, it sure seems to me that the 20-25 year old girls want to meet men up to about 60 whereas almost all the other websites I've been to have a bit more realistic age range I would imagine a 20-25 year old girl would like to meet.    Not complaining mind you, but why are the AD girls seemingly much more liberal with their age requirements than pretty much everyone else.

I'm a 52 year old guy and am looking for a woman more in the mid/upper 30's.   

Just surprised to see what I'm seeing on AD vs others..... that simply raises a bit of a flag to me, that's all.

K

[Muzh]

Mon Kapitan:

The majority of the REAL 20-25 yo dyevs are looking for 20-25 yo malchiks. A 20 - 25 yo dyev sending a 52 yo man a potential love letter is signed "Love, Boris."

If you go to some Russian websites you'll see the 1 in 10E6 25 yo dyev looking for a 52 yo dude and usually a sugar daddy, or as they call it "sponsor."

You'd be surprised how many 30 to mid-30 hotsmokingnovas are asking for 20 to 35 yo guys.

Just some friendly advice for you to ponder about.

Peace

BTW, I was 45 when I met my wife. She was 32.

[viking]

There are a TON of very beautiful women out there in their late 30's and early forties. Stop looking at the sexy 25 yo photos and do a search on the older ladies. You will be surprised.And get off that website.

[Faux Pas]

Gents,

So I'm looking at their website and notice lots of good looking girls in the photos, which I know is just the eye candy to get you in the door.   Then, I go to the "women online" section and e-v-e-r-y  s-i-n-g-l-e woman in the first 10 pages of those "supposedly online" and wanting to talk to me... were frikken Perfect model material and all from about 18 to maybe 25..... every single one of them.   

I have to tell you that I have a hard time that each of those girls A) has a computer at home or is using one at a cafe and B) that they are really the ones sitting at the computer vs the proverbial "Fat Yuri" I keep reading about from you experts.

Can someone tell me I"m simply wrong and that AD is legit?   As I went thru their website, I honestly thought they would/could/should be my choice for an agency office to use on an upcoming trip for meeting some local woman there. 

Thanks for your opinions

K

Excellent marketing! And it appears it would have reached it's target audience except for the fact that you are no longer old, dumb and fill of c*m with money to burn. You have educated yourself somewhat to the traps of the eye candy at RWD. Seriously Kap-I-tan, how many 20 year old girls do you know that are seeking a 50 year old man? Five?, less than five? More than five? It must be your lucky day. You found a hundred or more, all on computer and all on cam and all of them just can't wait to talk to "you"? Think you should go to Vegas?

[GQBlues]

...I'm a 52 year old guy and am looking for a woman more in the mid/upper 30's.....

LOL. Of course you are! Plus or minus: 2 years on the older end and 10 years on the younger end. The younger the better! 

Good spot on the AD trick...then let it grab yah...

btw, I supposed you gave up on the Latina option, eh?

[I/O]

K/L: There are dozens of ways this caper is run but one I'm aware of being common is the company (agency) having perhaps 5 or so (usually girls) on shift at any one time, they sit behind the PC's and run up to perhaps 10 or 15 profiles each at peak times (if they're fairly sharp, they can chat to several foreign suckers concurrently). For the most part, of course they'll be "too shy" to talk to a foreigner on web cam to start with....................................you figure it out. 

[XMan]

There are a TON of very beautiful women out there in their late 30's and early forties. Stop looking at the sexy 25 yo photos and do a search on the older ladies. You will be surprised.And get off that website.

At a 125 lbs. each, that's comes to exactly 16.      
So you'll have to search REALLY hard. 

Seriously though, I agree there are a number of them in their late 30's. 

Definitely get the heck off that website. 
There seems to be near universal agreement that Elena's Models is worthwhile. 
Think your chances of finding real women there is much greater.

[tim 360]

Kap, If you keep paying the 20's+ model beauties will "chat" with you all night long--just keep paying.  You will not really know for sure WHO is typing her words.  Or just how many other guys she has on the line.

Get honest with yourself.  You're 52.  Do 20 or 23 year beautiful models here want to talk with you?  Or go out with you?  Go to bed with you?  Or marry you?  This is all just a fantasy.

Go to a better site and look for girls a wee bit older.

[LAman]

K...those chats and videos are strickly for entertainment. Don't we ALL pay for some type of entertainment?

I find it interesting the # of guys that tell others 'No PPL's", just a waste of money. Is this because of what they have heard or from personal experience? I think to give an opinion on a site, you would have to have a personal experience to share instead of what others have said. It reminds me of a guy that complained about a girl and site as scammers( yes, it was AD), when I got to know a little about him, I found out he hadn't had a date in over a year, he was overweight, introverted and was trying to hook up with a girl 24( he was 51). Who would you blame? The site for making money? The girl for keeping up correspondence ( probably getting a cut) or the guy that needed a reality check? The buck should stop with the guy!!!! Nobody puts a gun to the back of any guys head. If someone is so foolish to throw $$$ so easily that is where the fault lies, what ever happened to personal responsibility.
I never recommend a site because I don't know where the guy is coming from, what he is looking for and is it similar to what he does at home. Sure EM is okay but each site has rules and use them to your benefit. On AD, get the postal address, send flowers to get contact info or get info through their phonecalls. I do think is good is to get experience through sites with  monthy charges and write to many girls and get some experience on figuring out how sincere girls are.

By the way, thois has run through my head, isn't it in some way better to have scammers in FSU, if not, can you imagine 80% of the male population in the west treking through eastern europe???
Ok...ready for the piling on!!!!!!! 

[Faux Pas]

K...those chats and videos are strickly for entertainment. Don't we ALL pay for some type of entertainment?

And for anyone who understands that it is entertainment I don't see it as a problem at all. The men that are led to believe that these 18-25 yr old cam models are sincerely wanting to meet and marry them or any other 40-50 yr old goat is a fraud. IMHO, any sincere man should have a fighting chance and at least be warned, yes?
 

I find it interesting the # of guys that tell others 'No PPL's", just a waste of money. Is this because of what they have heard or from personal experience? I think to give an opinion on a site, you would have to have a personal experience to share instead of what others have said. It reminds me of a guy that complained about a girl and site as scammers( yes, it was AD), when I got to know a little about him, I found out he hadn't had a date in over a year, he was overweight, introverted and was trying to hook up with a girl 24( he was 51). Who would you blame?

One doesn't have to die in a car wreck to know that it can kill you. The same logic applies here. When one has experience whether it is personal experience or learned experience and is asked by another who has none, according to your belief, it's okay to slap him on the back and wish him good luck without sharing your experience. To me, thats not okay. Different value systems I suppose. I would want someone to at least warn me. Be it, I was a 40 year old that looked 29 or a frumpy shy over weight 50 year old. Isn't that why most come to the forum? Learning from others?

The site for making money? The girl for keeping up correspondence ( probably getting a cut) or the guy that needed a reality check? The buck should stop with the guy!!!! Nobody puts a gun to the back of any guys head. If someone is so foolish to throw $$$ so easily that is where the fault lies, what ever happened to personal responsibility.
I never recommend a site because I don't know where the guy is coming from, what he is looking for and is it similar to what he does at home. Sure EM is okay but each site has rules and use them to your benefit. On AD, get the postal address, send flowers to get contact info or get info through their phonecalls. I do think is good is to get experience through sites with  monthy charges and write to many girls and get some experience on figuring out how sincere girls are.

I am a capitalist and a true believer in the capitalist system. I also believe in caveat emptor. I don't fault the agencies or the women for trying to make a buck. At the same time I don't think all knowledge has to be paid for in cash either. That in essence is what you are saying isn't it? What's wrong with keeping one's mouth shut and letting the poor sap get drained of his money while his heart continues to get broke? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Has anyone ever did you a "good turn" LAman? Have you ever paid anything forward?

By the way, thois has run through my head, isn't it in some way better to have scammers in FSU, if not, can you imagine 80% of the male population in the west treking through eastern europe???
Ok...ready for the piling on!!!!!!! 

What's your fear here? That the FSU will run out of women before you get one?  I think most of us know most men won't ever go so your fears are unfounded. Scammers are lies and deceit. I personally despise a thief in any form. I won't waste any of my sympathies on a thief. There is a segment of men out there, in this pursuit that are honest and sincerely looking for a partner in the FSU. Those guys, as few as there are, are the ones that deserve your best advice, earned or learned. IMHO, it is imperative that we reach those guys with good information. The rest could go to hell for all I care.

[Kapitanleutnant]

Faux Pas...

Wow.....   If you EVER decide to run an agency for this (maybe you do?),  I will sign up with you sight unseen.

I like how you think!

K

[Faux Pas]

Faux Pas...

Wow.....   If you EVER decide to run an agency for this (maybe you do?),  I will sign up with you sight unseen.

I like how you think!

K

heh heh, not a snowball's chance in Hades my friend 

[SFandEE]

I am a capitalist and a true believer in the capitalist system. I also believe in caveat emptor. I don't fault the agencies or the women for trying to make a buck.

The pretense of these sites is that the women are sincerely interested in meeting and possibly marrying a man.  I reject that it is an honest business to hire or pay women to act as if they are interested in a man or engage in a scam to pretend that someone is interested in this man.

Caveat emptor and as long as you call it capitalism I guess you can do whatever you want as long as there is profit involved.

Caveat emptor is a law of a jungle and in a society, especially a society that aspires to morality beyond eat or be eaten there should be a conscience that fraud for profit is not just the concern of the target, but the community and even the predator.

Had to comment because I don't like that men come into this naive, but it does not excuse the predatory behavior of the agencies or the women that lie about their intentions.

[Faux Pas]

The pretense of these sites is that the women are sincerely interested in meeting and possibly marrying a man.  I reject that it is an honest business to hire or pay women to act as if they are interested in a man or engage in a scam to pretend that someone is interested in this man.

Please point out exactly where I said it is an honest business practice. Take your time. You can reject it all you wish but, that isn't going to matter one iota. It will not faze them or the fact that they do it

Caveat emptor and as long as you call it capitalism I guess you can do whatever you want as long as there is profit involved.

Pure Strawman argument

Caveat emptor is a law of a jungle and in a society, especially a society that aspires to morality beyond eat or be eaten there should be a conscience that fraud for profit is not just the concern of the target, but the community and even the predator.

You see it as a "law of the jungle", I see it as clear warning that one does have the largest degree of personal responsibility for themselves. You can stick your head in the sand if you wish and pray for a global utopia but, that is well removed from the realities in the world. Please, try telling the predators that they are not conforming with your Peter Pan view on life.

Had to comment because I don't like that men come into this naive, but it does not excuse the predatory behavior of the agencies or the women that lie about their intentions.

Again, please point to where I've excused the behavior of scammers or scammer agencies. More men than even I'd care to admit enter this venture thinking solely with their penis. Agencies capitalize on that. It is a fact of life, deal with it. I have no sympathy for such men and they'll likely deserve everything they get. I suspect many honest and sincere men get sucked into the vacuum simply because they do not know. You can wish, hope and pray until the cows come home that agencies will "do the right thing" . I would caution you, don't hold your breath.

[BillyB]

Can someone tell me I"m simply wrong and that AD is legit?   As I went thru their website, I honestly thought they would/could/should be my choice for an agency office to use on an upcoming trip for meeting some local woman there. 

Thanks for your opinions

K

The girl's photos at big agencies such as  Anastasiadate and Hot Russian Brides/Russian Love Match are photoshopped and the girls are usually required to make studio quality photos which mean in real life the girls are uglier than their photos.

If you use the local agencies, you will probably be ripped off too. Some girls who paid their dues by milking men on video chat will be the recommended sincere women for you gentlemen to date. It's only right that the girls that make the company the most money get first opportunity to take their dates on shopping trips to capitalize on the promised benefits that come with the job.

It's hard to tell the real from the unreal women at those agencies. Why make things more difficult than they already are? If you're looking to gamble, go to Vegas. If you're looking for success, go somewhere else.

[Hammer2722]

Only a guy with half a brain would even consider using Anastasia's site. I should know as I was once one of them. Fortunately, I was able to get the other half of my brain back before it was too late!!!! 

[SFandEE]

I am a capitalist and a true believer in the capitalist system. I also believe in caveat emptor. I don't fault the agencies or the women for trying to make a buck.

Please don't ask me again to re-read your posts--once is enough, but I did find the above quote--pretty much a tolerance of what I find very illegal and immoral behavior.  But as you say, making a buck is the goal (capitalism), what's wrong with it--buyer beware!!!

I really don't want to argue with a "true believer" in anything.  It is circular, exhausting, and pointless.  I did not find balance in your comment and added balance to the thread.

Clipping and quoting and sniping is not why I come to RWD, so with the direct and considered response that I provided I will exit from this thread and allow the last words of others to ring true about whether or not tolerance of fraudulent business practices and women was endorsed for the sake of making a buck was stated.  I truly, truly believe it was.

[JR]

You are NOT wrong.

+1

[erudite]

Only a guy with half a brain would even consider using Anastasia's site. I should know as I was once one of them. Fortunately, I was able to get the other half of my brain back before it was too late!!!! 

I used it and found many very good women.  I met a number of them and they were real.  I had my pick of several in fact until I found the woman I will bring to the USA.  We are in the process of filing a K1 now. You just have to find the way to work around their system and the scammers. It's not rocket science and it is not difficult.  But you have to use the big head on your shoulders and not the other one.

[Faux Pas]

Please don't ask me again to re-read your posts--once is enough, but I did find the above quote--pretty much a tolerance of what I find very illegal and immoral behavior.  But as you say, making a buck is the goal (capitalism), what's wrong with it--buyer beware!!!

Yeah I didn't think you would. Thanks for playing. There is nothing illegal that I am aware of in the way these agencies conduct their business. Immoral is highly subjective. They provide a service for the fees they charge. Most are very vague in exactly what that service is yet, men clamor to do business with them.

I really don't want to argue with a "true believer" in anything.  It is circular, exhausting, and pointless.  I did not find balance in your comment and added balance to the thread.

Excuse me, I didn't see an argument and if you call what you stated "balance", you should get your head out of your butt. I mentioned believing in capitalism and you got your socialist dander up. Get over it.

Clipping and quoting and sniping is not why I come to RWD, so with the direct and considered response that I provided I will exit from this thread and allow the last words of others to ring true about whether or not tolerance of fraudulent business practices and women was endorsed for the sake of making a buck was stated.  I truly, truly believe it was.

Is the reason you come to RWD is to partake in ankle biting? That is exactly how I perceived your first post and now your second. You want to throw out your condescending posts and run for cover. Man up, you have the bawls to write the post at least have the bawls to back it up.

[BillyB]

You just have to find the way to work around their system and the scammers. It's not rocket science and it is not difficult.

You giving men the green light to walk a minefield? You may have found your lady there but you probably got ripped off in other ways that you're not talking about. There are much better ways to find real women without all the hassles. I seen too many guys thinking they can outsmart the big agencies only to come out lighter in their wallet.

[LAman]

Can someone tell me I"m simply wrong and that AD is legit?   As I went thru their website, I honestly thought they would/could/should be my choice for an agency office to use on an upcoming trip for meeting some local woman there. 

I am surprised no one here caught the fact K was going to choose an AD agency office....in almost 5 years, I've never seen one

And for anyone who understands that it is entertainment I don't see it as a problem at all. The men that are led to believe that these 18-25 yr old cam models are sincerely wanting to meet and marry them or any other 40-50 yr old goat is a fraud. IMHO, any sincere man should have a fighting chance and at least be warned, yes?
 

 I am a capitalist and a true believer in the capitalist system. I also believe in caveat emptor. I don't fault the agencies or the women for trying to make a buck. At the same time I don't think all knowledge has to be paid for in cash either. That in essence is what you are saying isn't it? What's wrong with keeping one's mouth shut and letting the poor sap get drained of his money while his heart continues to get broke? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Has anyone ever did you a "good turn" LAman? Have you ever paid anything forward?

FP....yes they can be warned...but warned of the entire process, not just of certain sites, to look in the mirror and really be realistic in what they are looking for, if not, the beauty of FSU girls can melt them like butter. There was a guy recently here that was looking for good honest sites to look for a girl....guesss what, half of posts were EM...... now you've got a 50+ yr old guy searching for 20 something girls on EM...was he really helped??????

I have a question..... when I hear agency, I think of the local marriage agency of the girl's city( which I think is where most of scamming exists) and I think of the internet sites( which most know of: EM, AD, Global........) as 'sites'. I get confused when someone mentions an 'agency' and is talking about a site.