Elena's Models.... Are they the "lessor of all evils" in the search?

[I/O]

Jack: You missed the point again and, your assessment isn't universally correct.

[Turboguy]

Personally I think most women would rather meet sooner than later.  If it works out it is less wasted time and if it doesn't it is less wasted time.  I have a feeling that a very attractive women who lives in a major, easy to get to city won't sit around writing anyone for a year unless there is a really terrific connection with someone who has a good reason to delay visiting.   A less attractive woman who doesn't get as much interest and lives in a harder to get to place might wait longer because she may not have as many choices.

During the "old days" when snail mail was common, long correspondence was the norm.  It is a faster moving world and you either move with it or get left behind.  I did have a few ladies I wrote to for several years and actually never did go visit so some will write a long time.  Most, I don't think will.

[Jack]

your assessment isn't universally correct.

Of course it's not universally correct I/O !  You, Muzh, Dogspot have shown us that some women prefer to write a man from 10 months to a year before meeting.  But in today's time, this is the extreme exception, certainly not the norm.

Jack: You missed the point again

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I/O  a little pushed for time right now but will go back and look at what I wrote, what you replied to and see how I again missed the point.

[I/O]

extreme exception

Now it's extreme exception LOL. Jack, regarding my wife whom you seem obsessed with, as I said before, "prepared" would be a more accurate description than preferred and among the womenfolk I know, that's pretty general. Was then, is now. By your definition she is "extremely exceptional" and on that point, I agree.

The reality among the womenfolk I met years back and those we know now (a fairly wide group) is that most would prefer to meet sooner rather than later but the better ones will wait if necessary given the guy engages them positively. BTW GOB, I found exactly the same with American girls years back, the ones worth meeting would wait awhile if need be.

GOB has read on RWD over and over again from the "seasoned" veterans that AM should date and behave in the FSU the same as they would locally.

Well GOB as a near decade long "vet" with more trips to the FSU under my belt than most will ever have, I've never agreed with that and never will, in fact I think it's a bit of rubbish. If you're looking to compete with the local boys and you'll need to to access the top shelf, you'll need to adjust your style at least a little to suit the local scene.

 

[Jack]

Now it's extreme exception LOL. Jack, regarding my wife whom you seem obsessed with,

me, obsessed with your wife, hhaaaaaa, ahhhh that so funny. dream on I/O, dream on.

[I/O]

dream

LOL, who is it selling dreams Jack? "First Dream" IIRC. BTW, when were you last in Russia?

 

[Jack]

Why thank you I/O, I have been able to help many men to discover their dreams.  If you might be in North Dallas in two weeks you can probably meet some 25-30 such men.

I was last in Russia in 2009.  And how about you I/O, when did you make your first trip to Russia?  How many times have you been to Moscow, to St. Pete?

And as far as me have any obsession with your wife I/O, again, dream on, I'm afraid she's a little too old for me, but I'm sure she's a great age for you. 

[GoodOlBoy]

If you're looking to compete with the local boys and you'll need to to access the top shelf, you'll need to adjust your style at least a little to suit the local scene.

Oh, I agree with you here also I/O.

I have always worn a dress shirt and tie, pressed pants, spit shined shoes, etc. here in the GoodOl' USA or the FSU.

And of course, behaved like a gentleman.

GOB

PS....I am speaking about Russia here I/O. Sadly, I have never been to the Ukraine.

[I/O]

I'm afraid she's a little too old for me

At 28, she's way too old for you and of course her having the audacity to want children.   Good to know you were in Russia in 2009, only 2 years since. 

in the GoodOl' USA or the FSU.

LOL, my point precisely but I guess it's lost. Oh well. BTW, Ukraine never excited me too much, went there a couple of times for short trips (two weeks or so each).

Carry on gentlemen......................

 

[Jack]

at 28, for sure to old for me, at least for several more years.     But the audicity of a 28 year wanting a child you say?  I think not.   

I/O, you failed to mention when was your first trip to Russia, I'm sure just an oversight. Number of trips to Moscow, to St. Pete., As well any other note worthy cities you care to mention.

[I/O]

Sorry Jack, first trip almost 10 years ago, 16 in all. Moscow, St Pete, Kiev, Odessa, Kishinev, Omsk, Novosibirsk, Yekaterinburg, Riga, Irkutsk, Krasnoyarsk, Ufa etc.......................


 

[Sia]

I also think that men are the best options are (in descending rank):
1/ ElenasModel.com
2/RussianEuro.com
3/Bride.ru

Goodluck in searchings!

[SFandEE]

EM has a very positive following on RWD.  In the spirit of full disclosure--out of those of you who have recommended EM do you have a friendship or relationship with owners or employees of EM?  It is my understanding they are in Australia and it seems we have several contributors from Australia.

[Gator]

SFandEE,

I recommend EM and I have never talked with the management/ownership.  For sure I am not from Australia.

[Faux Pas]

I  have recommended EMs maybe 100 times. Not one regret. The easier path by far than the other 8-10 sites I found for direct contact to women in the FSU. No impediment to the ladies. Much to be said for that

[I/O]

EM has a very positive following on RWD.  In the spirit of full disclosure--out of those of you who have recommended EM do you have a friendship or relationship with owners or employees of EM?  It is my understanding they are in Australia and it seems we have several contributors from Australia.

Elena and family live about 100 miles from me. No association.

[Gator]

Elena and family live about 100 miles from me. No association.

Where you live isn't that considered a next door neighbor?   

[dogspot]

Where you live isn't that considered a next door neighbor?   

Or maybe just a boomerang throw away.

[Sia]

looking Are YOu Intrerested on FB

[HiTech]

Sorry Jack, first trip almost 10 years ago, 16 in all. Moscow, St Pete, Kiev, Odessa, Kishinev, Omsk, Novosibirsk, Yekaterinburg, Riga, Irkutsk, Krasnoyarsk, Ufa etc.......................


 

Since when is Kiev, odessa and Kishinev in Russia?

Jack: When were you last in Ukraine?

HiTech

[SANDRO43]

looking Are YOu Intrerested on FB

Meaning ??? ??? ???

[Sia]

This application name to facebook where people meet there exists a small membership fee but rather an active place with great potential in my opinion

[Muzh]

This application name to facebook where people meet there exists a small membership fee but rather an active place with great potential in my opinion

I don't follow you. Are you saying there is there a membership fee for Facebook? Or there is a fee for the FB app for your smartphone?

[Gator]

My girlfriend's 22-yo daughter has been on match.com for 3 weeks.  She is gorgeous, and even without "skin" photos she has attracted a lot of attention. 

She has narrowed the match.com men to four favorites, from 33 to 40-yo, all with good careers.  She converses by Skype, and has not yet decided to meet any of them.  They ask, and she tells them "maybe."  She is modest, proper and careful.  The "3-date rule" would not apply to her.   Maybe one man will soon be allowed to meet her after class for tea and cake, but not go for a ride in his car.

I questioned her about the ages.  She says that she likes smart men with experience.  In Russia she tended to date such men.  Mama says a couple of RM were madly in love with her even though she did not feel the same, which makes me question their wisdom.  Some of their gifts boggle the mind.

 

[Maxx2]

I was last in Russia in 2009. 

I am surprised to hear that. I thought you practically lived over there.