Meeting Someone There

[brian131]

I'm really frustrated with meeting someone on the internet.  I can't tell much at all from the profiles and messages aren't much better.  If I look any more, I think I'm just going to call.

I'd rather just meet someone there and my flight to Ukraine was booked before I even decided to meet someone.  Looking for a nice single mom who speaks English fairly well, intelligent, preferably in the 30-36 age range but I would consider 28-44.  Not looking for a super model, just trying to find Miss Right.  I'd actually prefer someone not as thin as most of the ones I see on EM.

I'd have a hard time meeting someone like that in the US.  They just aren't out as much because they are busy with their lives.

Any suggestions?

[myheart2ukraine]

I'm really frustrated with meeting someone on the internet.  I can't tell much at all from the profiles and messages aren't much better.  If I look any more, I think I'm just going to call.

I'd rather just meet someone there and my flight to Ukraine was booked before I even decided to meet someone.  Looking for a nice single mom who speaks English fairly well, intelligent, preferably in the 30-36 age range but I would consider 28-44.  Not looking for a super model, just trying to find Miss Right.  I'd actually prefer someone not as thin as most of the ones I see on EM.

I'd have a hard time meeting someone like that in the US.  They just aren't out as much because they are busy with their lives.

Any suggestions?

dobriden brian

welcome 2 ukraine is & when you get here. now let MH2U give you some plain advise

where first are you going in ukraine for if you are going 2 the hott-spot scammer places here then you will become bigtime cannon fodder for the girls. these scammer/goodtime girls are beautiful/blow you away & it is there job & only job they do & they do it good, very good.

MH2U takes his hat off 2 beautiful ukrainian scammer girls for they hit western men in there weakest spot bigtime & plus they are far, far 2 intelligent for most western guys im afraid 2 say anyways

now your chances of meeting miss right here in the few days you are in ukraine is practical zero mate. you want this beautiful/intelligent ukrainian mum who speaks some good english. well these mums are here but due 2 there lifestyle ex husband/boyfriend mostly drunks 2 they are down-pressed & find it very hard 2 get out for there little bundles of joy they are looking after plus every spare grivna they have is for the child not themselves dancing away at some nightclub

anyways brian for what its worth your best chances of finding miss ukrainian right for you is western ukraine

MH2U is now live in ukraine in ternopil region & is not some fool at his computer in whatever country thinking he knows better than me. now i have 2 get back 2 kindergarten duties looking after my gorgeous 2 year-old ukrainian lad

good-luck on your trip here & if you need any help from my girlfriend then just click below mate

myheart2ukraine     

[brian131]

I'm 40...if I'm in a club I'm meeting the wrong girl, whether she's a scammer or not.  Hopefully I'll be ok.  I was married to someone playing those games (AW) so I'm not really cannon fodder.  Thanks for the warning, though.  I'll take a look at the website at home later.

Brian

[myheart2ukraine]

I'm 40...if I'm in a club I'm meeting the wrong girl, whether she's a scammer or not.  Hopefully I'll be ok.  I was married to someone playing those games (AW) so I'm not really cannon fodder.  Thanks for the warning, though.  I'll take a look at the website at home later.

Brian

good luck mate & take it from me/others 2 here with sound advise if you get yourself that dream ukrainian woman then it will be smiles, smiles, smiles 24/7 for you just like myself

myheart2ukraine     

[bobcat]

Just read the info here, your target age compared to your own is within what is realistic---I'm 40, and the good Mrs is 40 as well--we're about to hit 5 years marriage. Be realistic in your approach, be yourself, and visit the lady as often as possible---train-wrecks occur with minimal understanding of each other. Good luck.




 

[Muzh]

Brian, contact Mila in Kharkiv. I'm partial to that city as my wife came from there. I've been to that city many times and I can tell you that there are many good looking ladies in you age range.
 
I understand that Mila can set you face to face with one of her ladies or someone you pick from an agency.
 
Good Luck.

[Gator]

It will cost money but almost every agency will arrange quick meetings with English speaking UW.  Go to their offices and study the catalogues (or start now). 
 
I met a Californian man in Dnepropetovsk who had 2-4 "dates" per day doing exactly that, and following up only if there were initial chemistry.  Prior to arrival, he had arranged only for a flight, an apartment and transfer. 

[myheart2ukraine]

It will cost money but almost every agency will arrange quick meetings with English speaking UW.  Go to their offices and study the catalogues (or start now). 
 
I met a Californian man in Dnepropetovsk who had 2-4 "dates" per day doing exactly that, and following up only if there were initial chemistry.  Prior to arrival, he had arranged only for a flight, an apartment and transfer.

MH2U says forget about all the above unless you want this experience 2 help you in2 the future here brian

ukrainian gals are brillent at flirting/flicking them sexy long eye-lashes as for this constitutes much sexaul chemistry in any red blooded western man pants doesn`t it

off course at the above agency they will ship the girls in for you & ship them-out depending how much dosh you have. half the dosh for themselfs & half the dosh for the woman. i know they even chuck in free for the woman bus/train travel for the woman 2 meet you in whatever city here

off course MH2U could be wrong but after 12 years here i not think so mate

im sorry 2 say 2 you my lyudmila cannot help you in your quest/romance for love here in ukraine if you intent 2 travel in here in less than 2 months time. never mind muzh knows this mila in kharkov & she looks like she can sort you out with a hott woman at the drop off a hat

good luck/hunting   MH2U     

[Muzh]

Not only you don't know how to write, you don't know how to read either. I never said I know Mila. I said "I understand that Mila..." which is very different from "I know Mila and she will..."
 
You are correct that these girls are very coquettish, however, I'd be very leery of the one's that would jump at the first opportunity to engage a western man they just met. It is like everywhere. Just use your commmon sense.

[brian131]

You are correct that these girls are very coquettish, however, I'd be very leery of the one's that would jump at the first opportunity to engage a western man they just met. It is like everywhere. Just use your commmon sense.

Yes, the voice of reason!  Also, I don't have illusions that I go from 'regular guy' to Brad Pitt just by crossing a border.

[Hammer2722]

Brian, I do agree with MH2U that Western Ukraine is a very much ignored area to find your soul mate. After 3 trips to Kiev and Odessa I finally found mine in Lviv. Good luck in your search and always let your big head do the thinking!!! 

[LAman]

Hey Brian...are you flying into Kiev?
 
I wouldn't worry about girl's looking to skinny......in real life they are not 5"7" and 108 lbs!!!!!
They seem to carry a few more pounds...
 
What ever happened to just finding a travel companion??? Now trying to find Miss Right?
 
I never liked the looking through agency photos for dates @$25-$150 for each intro's. You know nothing of girl and she knows nothing of you......and hope you can have good time. Felt like I had just bought a girls time for one hour!!! Just my feeling......

[Shadow]

Yes, the voice of reason!  Also, I don't have illusions that I go from 'regular guy' to Brad Pitt just by crossing a border.

Actually you do. After all you look younger than your age and especially your butt (the side where you keep your wallet) looks good..

[brian131]

What ever happened to just finding a travel companion??? Now trying to find Miss Right?

I realized that I wanted something real.  I had some good advice from a very intelligent woman on the forum.  I also looked back at how much effort I was putting into finding my travel companion and how frustrated I was.  I don't need to ask people how to find a "good time girl", yet I'm publicly baring my soul on a private matter.  Obviously I was hiding something from myself if I was putting that much work into solving a simple problem.  I was pretty specific that I wanted a girlfriend, I just didn't know how to have one with my situation.  I decided I'd rather spend three weeks in a real relationship with a woman my age in Cherkassy waiting for her to get home from work than have a honeymoon type vacation on the beach with a 27 year old...and I did say Miss Right, not Mrs Right.  I'd love to meet the right person, fall in love and get married, but I'm still approaching this as dating.  Of course I don't date anyone I don't see as a potential future wife.  That's why I made the comment that I wasn't looking for the super model type...nothing wrong with them, but when I'm thinking about what I want I'm asking "Who do I want to go to the grocery store with on Saturday morning?"  Beauty fades and medicine is improving, so even at 40 I may be stuck with this woman for 70 years!  Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewww!!!  I had better choose wisely!

[Vincenzo]

It may sound strange.
The best place to meet a lonely Russian woman is Turkey. Especially, if you have a nice body and don't look like a Turkish man.

Certainly,  if you have a special woman, it's better to travel to her city.

If you don't know anybody special and you have three weeks in the summer, you should go to Turkey. Many medium-wage Russian women spend their vacations on the Turkish beaches and they're open to dates.

What will you do in a Ukrainian city except looking through the profiles at a dating agency?

[brian131]

What will you do in a Ukrainian city except looking through the profiles at a dating agency?

No, that's even more blind than the internet.  I was thinking that I would look at the personality/lifestyle of the type of woman I was interested in and then figure out where she would naturally go.  I used to go to bookstores on Friday night.  Any woman there by herself on the weekend was single and at least fairly intelligent.  Plus, I could guess her personality by what section of the book store she was looking in.

It never worked, but I think I had the right idea.

[Chicagoguy]

Never thought ot that. At least you get an A for effort and originality.

[Hammer2722]

No, that's even more blind than the internet.  I was thinking that I would look at the personality/lifestyle of the type of woman I was interested in and then figure out where she would naturally go.  I used to go to bookstores on Friday night.  Any woman there by herself on the weekend was single and at least fairly intelligent.  Plus, I could guess her personality by what section of the book store she was looking in.

It never worked, but I think I had the right idea.

Women in Ukraine are much more approachable that AW. Your chances are definitely much better for success.

[Vincenzo]

Women in Ukraine are much more approachable that AW. Your chances are definitely much better for success.

How can you approach them if your Ukrainian language skills are poor?
10 years ago, Ukrainian girls were enamored of every foreigner. Now, they don't care much.

[Jumper]

How can you approach them if your Ukrainian language skills are poor?
10 years ago, Ukrainian girls were enamored of every foreigner. Now, they don't care much.

Vin ,
just curious is this from somewhat recent personal  experience in Ukriane and Turkey?
 
 
In Ukraine, while it may be different now, than 10 years ago
(yes i've had experience at both times)
still many single UW would be open to an exchange or dating a decent foriegn man.
His biggest initial hurdle would be getting past a sex tourist reputation,not the language.
 
As far as language, depending on where he was visiting,
 it would be just as likely or more so that it would be Russian?
The majorioty of popular Ukranian destiniations would be primarly Russian speaking?
 
at any rate, IMHO it would certainly not be very difficult getting a date from meetings at the park, cafe, or various shops..
odds might be great they had never thought of relocating, but as far as simple interest in a date, a guy with any charisma would do just fine.
 
I have no idea about Turkey,
but yes i'd imagine many single UW/RW go on vacation together there , (like egypt) and are approachable in the scenario?
 
 I do doubt it would be much easier without language skills, as approaching her while she works at the local Ukrainian  shop or cafe ..the language barrier is present regardless?
 
Certainly not insurmountable, and more than a few have passable English.
 
I just wouldnt think a venture to a turkish resort, as likely to
have equal opportunty to meet single UW, as a venture to a resort in Crimea as example  
 

[Jack]

10 years ago, Ukrainian girls were enamored of every foreigner. Now, they don't care much.

       
 
 
Vincenzo, is this your experience over all of Ukraine or certain cities, regions?

[Vincenzo]

IMHO it would certainly not be very difficult getting a date from meetings at the park, cafe, or various shops..

Yeah, good luck finding a lonely 35-year-old woman at a park or cafe during your short visit.
Though, beautiful 20-year-old girls are everywhere.

The Crimea is considered expensive and dirty destination compared to Turkey. Lonely Russian women often travel seeking a romance with a hot Turkish boy. You know, a Turkish man can't have sex with a Muslim girl before marriage.

[Vincenzo]

       
Vincenzo, is this your experience over all of Ukraine or certain cities, regions?

It's all about economy.

I don't know much about the Ukraine. A Ukrainian girl told me that the average salary in Odessa was $200, in Nikolaev - $100.

Certainly, Russia is much richer. Streets are full of cars, new buildings are everywhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia

The average nominal salary in Russia was $640 per month in early 2008, up from $80 in 2000. In the end of 2010 the average nominal monthly wages reached 21,192 RUR (or $750 USD), while tax on the income of individuals is payable at the rate of 13% on most incomes.
The middle class has grown from just 8 million persons in 2000 to 55 million persons in 2006.

Nobody wants to relocate to the USA with its declining economy.

[wicheese]

Nobody wants to relocate to the USA with its declining economy.

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[/size]That's one of the best things I have heard in a long time, because if true then the economic refugees who will marry a man to just improve her economic status will become fewer and fewer.  So, in the future if you meet a lady, you will need to win her heart with your personality and not your wallet. 
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[/size]If you think that's impossible, then talk to my fiancee who is part of of the growing Russian middle class and probably makes more than the average man who logs onto this site (if only going by averages).  Anyways, she's walking away from it all because she was crazy enough to fall in love.

[Vincenzo]

You can check the K1 fiancee visa statistics per country: http://travel.state.gov/visa/statistics/nivstats/nivstats_4582.html
Russia: 2004 - 1,687; 2010 - 778 issued visas
Ukraine: 2004 - 1,205; 2010 - 827.
The numbers are certainly tiny. Probably, more Mexican women cross the border illegally each day.

Your fiancee may come to the USA, then she won't be able to find a comparable job and she'll say, "Good bye, America!"