Meeting Someone There

[Vincenzo]

Did you visit Ukraine 10 years ago? You seem to be making some pretty sweeping generalizations...

Russian anti-American propaganda really works.

a BBC poll found that 65 percent of Russians have a negative opinion of the United States, 7 percent have a positive opinion, and 28 percent remain undecided.

It's typical for a Russian to ask an American, "Are you Ok? How are you affected by the crisis? Do you have a job?"

[Vincenzo]

 
you've seen it on youtube or in person?
when where you last in Nikolaev?
 
 I was there not long ago..not sure where you stayed, but there is plenty of traffic to dodge..
 

I was in Nikolaev only a year ago. I stayed near the center (I think it's Sovetskaya street) on Morskaya street at a mini-hotel across a night club.

There was a big street (probably, Lenin) with apartment buildings, all other houses were one-story as in the video I posted.

I haven't visited the night club, but I suspect you can find a beautiful girl there very cheaply.

[Vincenzo]

My wife was part of the middle class when she left Russia and even working part-time she is earning more than she did in Russia. But, it is more than simply salary: she enjoys the lifestyle and the stability Canada has to offer, and I expect the same would be true for a RW emigrating to the United States.

Stability?
Is it even possible to retain a job for more than 10 years in Canada or the USA if it's in the private sector?

15% of Americans use food stamps, and this number has been growing rapidly.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/04/pf/food_stamps_record_high/index.htm

[Jumper]

Vincezno,
 
Ok so now not only do they not have cars, basically only one street, Leninskaya,  has multi story buildings?
 
all I can advise is maybe look a bit closer next time you are there, or at the last photo I posted of a fairly large city with a lot of multi story apart buildings throught out the city, and also two story houses.
 
 
but hey how about some context of your original proposition?
meeting someone at a turkish resort?
 

The beaches in Crimea are small and overcrowded. There is no infrastructure. Everything is expensive.

what a poor location to meet some RW/UW then huh?

and since it is so expensive , how is it crowded?
 

Turkish beaches are clean and empty

I don't doubt they are clean , the ones in Egypt are,
however the volume of single RW available wouldn't exactly be phenomenal.
 
As mentioned,  if out to meet a Ukranian , I'd suggest taking ones  chances in Ukraine rather than Turkey. Sorry if that seemed illogical.
 

[Vincenzo]

but hey how about some context of your original proposition?
meeting someone at a turkish resort?
 
what a poor location to meet some RW/UW then huh?

and since it is so expensive , how is it crowded?
 
I don't doubt they are clean , the ones in Egypt are,
however the volume of single RW available wouldn't exactly be phenomenal.
 
As mentioned,  if out to meet a Ukranian , I'd suggest taking ones  chances in Ukraine rather than Turkey. Sorry if that seemed illogical.

It won't seem illogical if you check the travel statistics: 1 million Russians visited Crimea in 2010, 4 million Russians visited Turkey in 2010.

Well, somebody can live in a 4-star hotel with all-you-can-eat included in Turkey or in an old shack in Crimea for the same money.

Also, the swimming season in Turkey is longer - until October.

Ok so now not only do they not have cars, basically only one street, Leninskaya,  has multi story buildings?

Go to any big Russian city and compare the number of cars. Nikolaev looks very-very poor.

[Daveman]

It won't seem illogical if you check the travel statistics: 1 million Russians visited Crimea in 2010, 4 million Russians visited Turkey in 2010.

Well, somebody can live in a 4-star hotel with all-you-can-eat included in Turkey or in an old shack in Crimea for the same money.

Also, the swimming season in Turkey is longer - until October.
Go to any big Russian city and compare the number of cars. Nikolaev looks very-very poor.

I'm not really sure what your point is with the "Turkey and Stuffing" vs "Fried Crimea and Mashed Taters" subthread. 


I am pretty sure that most Ukrainian ladies would prefer to go to Turkey or Egypt if given a choice simply because, statistically speaking, the average Ukrainian (and probably Russian) has traveled to Crimea a minimum 8,458,674.076 times before the age of 20 whereas travel to Turkey, Egypt, etc. are more recent options, far less utilized, and thus much more intriguing.   I don't know of *any* who would turn down a trip to Crimea because it's either dirty or expensive. "Hey babe, I'm going to Crimea, wanna go?"  "Absolutely NOT. I will never go to that flea ridden, mud covered, expensive rocky landfill ever again! It's Turkey or NOTHING for me!" 


Silly, yes... "Hey babe, where ya wanna go? Turkey? Egypt? Dominican Republic? or to Crimea for the 8,458,674.067th time?" 




It's similar to USA residents having the choice between Panama City Beach (or any beach in Florida) vs say Fiji, Cancun, or the Bahamas.. whatever.  Sure, we love heading down to the beaches of Florida, but  most of us have been there, done that, and have a closet full of the old T-shirts so the less familiar and more exotic (relatively speaking) destinations become more intriguing choices.

[OlgaH]

I am pretty sure that most Ukrainian ladies would prefer to go to Turkey or Egypt if given a choice simply because, statistically speaking, the average Ukrainian (and probably Russian) has traveled to Crimea a minimum 8,458,674.076 times before the age of 20 whereas travel to Turkey, Egypt, etc. are more recent options, far less utilized, and thus much more intriguing. 

Dave, do not be so sure regarding Russians

only 3% of Russian population can afford a vacation outside Russia according to the statistics.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://crimea.vgorode.ua/news/57617/&ei=CiFUTtPLDOLL0QGUrrDPBQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCEQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%25D1%2581%25D1%2580%25D0%25B5%25D0%25B4%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B5%25D1%2581%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0%25D1%2582%25D0%25B8%25D1%2581%25D1%2582%25D0%25B8%25D1%2587%25D0%25B5%25D1%2581%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B9%2B%25D1%2580%25D0%25BE%25D1%2581%25D1%2581%25D0%25B8%25D1%258F%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BD%2B%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B5%2B%25D0%25BC%25D0%25BE%25D0%25B6%25D0%25B5%25D1%2582%2B%25D0%25BF%25D0%25BE%25D0%25B7%25D0%25B2%25D0%25BE%25D0%25BB%25D0%25B8%25D1%2582%25D1%258C%2B%25D0%25BE%25D1%2582%25D0%25B4%25D1%258B%25D1%2585%2B%25D0%25B2%2B%25D0%25BA%25D1%2580%25D1%258B%25D0%25BC%25D1%2583%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1133%26bih%3D578%26prmd%3Divns

Russian Population in 2010 was 142,905,200 people.  In 2010 only 1,4 million Russians visited Crimea according to the Ministry of Resorts and Tourism of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea .   

[Vincenzo]

If you stay at this hotel in Antalya, you'll find a few Russian ladies for sure.

Do you know any places like this in Crimea?

[Jumper]

It won't seem illogical if you check the travel statistics: 1 million Russians visited Crimea in 2010, 4 million Russians visited Turkey in 2010.

lol sheesh..
 care to completely ignore  the millions of Russian /Ukrainian  population of Crimea in your given scenario?
or how many Ukrainians that also *visited* Crimea?
 
 
Hey ,if you don't feel any Ukrainian city or Russian city is going to afford more oppurtunity to meet UW or RW,respectively , than some given Turkish resort , ok then.
 
So are you now going to google and compare the single RW population of lets say Kherson, over a two week time period,  to the amount of RW at one given resort arera of Turkey over two weeks?
 
I never said it was a bad place to vacation, nor did i say you couldn't meet a single RW ,while there in Turkey.
 
I simply stated it seemed if your plansd where to just go to some random resort for the purpose of meeting single RW or UW,
then you might increase your odds by going to Ukrainian  or Russian resort  (sochi perhaps?)
verses a Turkish one.
 
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As far as comparing a big russian city to Nikolaev.
ok and what?
 
nobody was doing so? It's a provincial Ukrainian city.
 
you were comparing it's number of cars , to a russian village,
now you shift to some big Russian city.
 
Have fun...

 
 
 

[Daveman]

If you stay at this hotel in Antalya, you'll find a few Russian ladies for sure.

Do you know any places like this in Crimea?

Definitely beautiful, and I wouldn't mind hanging out there for a bit my own self...


but, I'm still not sure what the point is...


The Crimean beaches are 'overcrowded' with, well,  mostly Ukrainians and Russians. Certainly many families, yes, but --- How could there NOT be more single female Ukrainians/EthnicRussians/Traveling Ukrainians/Russians in Crimea than in Turkish resorts?  A veritable peninsula full 'o people vs some resort areas?


If a guy wants to travel and meet single Russian women while on Vacation, there probably isn't a better country in the world to accomplish this than, quite surprisingly, Russia.  Or Ukraine for Ukrainians.  Certainly one could meet a single woman at any resort in the world (or even an engaged woman, as evident by the fairy tale of  "The Russian Alphastud who Stood, The Fiancee Princess Who Lit Up Like Never Before, and the Goatman Who Ran Away").


But numerically speaking, the numbers would have to be higher inside the country as opposed to out.

[OlgaH]

It won't seem illogical if you check the travel statistics: 1 million Russians visited Crimea in 2010, 4 million Russians visited Turkey in 2010.

In 2010 1,4 million Russian citizens visited Crimea according to the Ministry of Resorts and Tourism of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, and 3,1 million Russian citizens most of them as tourists visited Turkey according to the Republic of Turkey Ministry of Culture and Tourism.

[OlgaH]

Overview of the tourism markеt in Ukraine

Most tourists visiting Ukraine аrе mainly from Hungary, Poland, Germany and the USA

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.bconsult.com.ua/articles/runok_turizma/&ei=wCtUTuGfGobn0QHN_em-Ag&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBoQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%25D0%259A%25D1%2580%25D1%258B%25D0%25BC%2B%25D1%2581%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0%25D1%2582%25D0%25B8%25D1%2581%25D1%2582%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B0%2B%25D1%2582%25D1%2583%25D1%2580%25D0%25B8%25D1%2581%25D1%2582%25D1%258B%2B%25D0%25B1%25D0%25BE%25D0%25BB%25D1%258C%25D1%2588%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BD%25D1%2581%25D1%2582%25D0%25B2%25D0%25BE%2B%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B7%2B%25D1%2581%25D1%2582%25D1%2580%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BD%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1133%26bih%3D578%26prmd%3Divns

[Daveman]

Dave, do not be so sure regarding Russians

only 3% of Russian population can afford a vacation outside Russia according to the statistics.

...

Russian Population in 2010 was 142,905,200 people.  In 2010 only 1,4 million Russians visited Crimea according to the Ministry of Resorts and Tourism of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea .   

and

In 2010 1,4 million Russian citizens visited Crimea according to the Ministry of Resorts and Tourism of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, and 3,1 million Russian citizens most of them as tourists visited Turkey according to the Republic of Turkey Ministry of Culture and Tourism.

Thanks Olga!  Very interesting stats.  so, twice the number of Russians traveled to Turkey as did those to Crimea in 2010.  Hmmmmmmmmm, I wonder....of that number, how many were hideously ugly?  ah HA!! They HAD to go to Turkey!  We'll get to the bottom of this yet...

[Vincenzo]

**********
As far as comparing a big russian city to Nikolaev.
ok and what?
 
nobody was doing so? It's a provincial Ukrainian city.
 
you were comparing it's number of cars , to a russian village,
now you shift to some big Russian city.

Nikolaev is a big city. Its population is 500,000. However, it looks like a big village with long streets of small houses.

[OlgaH]

Thanks Olga!  Very interesting stats.  so, twice the number of Russians traveled to Turkey as did those to Crimea in 2010.  Hmmmmmmmmm, I wonder....of that number, how many were hideously ugly?  ah HA!! They HAD to go to Turkey!  We'll get to the bottom of this yet...

Dave, I'm curious why do you think the Russians who went to Turkey should be hideously ugly?

[Vincenzo]

Dave, do not be so sure regarding Russians

only 3% of Russian population can afford a vacation outside Russia according to the statistics.

12.6 million Russians traveled abroad in 2010. The population of Russia is 142 millions.
That's 9%.

[Vincenzo]

Dave, I'm curious why do you think the Russians who went to Turkey should be hideously ugly?

He thinks that they go to Turkey only because they want sex with Turkish Romeos.
But some do.

[OlgaH]

12.6 million Russians traveled abroad in 2010. The population of Russia is 142 millions.
That's 9%.

In my previous post I should be more correct saying according to the survey 

Regarding the statistics 9,785,811 Russian citizens had vacation abroad

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.tourinfo.ru/news/34697/&ei=8DFUTunUHMzC0AGyruDeAg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=4&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQ7gEwAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%25D0%25A2%25D1%2583%25D1%2580%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B7%25D0%25BC%2B%25D1%2581%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0%25D1%2582%25D0%25B8%25D1%2581%25D1%2582%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B0%2B%25D1%2581%25D0%25BA%25D0%25BE%25D0%25BB%25D1%258C%25D0%25BA%25D0%25BE%2B%25D1%2580%25D0%25BE%25D1%2581%25D1%2581%25D0%25B8%25D1%258F%25D0%25BD%2B%25D0%25BE%25D1%2582%25D0%25B4%25D0%25BE%25D1%2585%25D0%25BD%25D1%2583%25D0%25BB%25D0%25BE%2B%25D0%25B7%25D0%25B0%2B%25D0%25B3%25D1%2580%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BD%25D0%25B8%25D1%2586%25D0%25B5%25D0%25B9%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1133%26bih%3D578%26prmd%3Divns

[OlgaH]

He thinks that they go to Turkey only because they want sex with Turkish Romeos.
But some do.

Dave, do you really think so? 

[Annushka]

Vincenzo, where did you find the video? It was taken thousand years ago. I don't want to argue with you, you just open the links.
One piece of advice - do not argue about things you do not know 







 

[Vincenzo]

Vincenzo, where did you find the video? It was taken thousand years ago. I don't want to argue with you, you just open the links.
One piece of advice - do not argue about things you do not know 

Is it the place called Alushta?
I went to its official website and checked the photos of the beaches.
They seem to be overcrowded.
http://alushta.eu/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/5403288.jpg
http://alushta.eu/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/3389796.jpg

Can you explain why Russians prefer Turkish beaches?

[Handycam72]

One piece of advice - do not argue about things you do not know 

Vincenzo - take that advice.
 
People likes nice white sandy beaches Vincenzo, they also like to travel to different countries too, explore new cultures.
 
I will be in Crimea in a few weeks. You have any tips for me Vincenzo on what I should expect there?

 

[brian131]

When I was in Hawaii (which has wonderful beaches) people there would sometimes go to Bali or Costa Rica to go to the beach.

[brian131]

Can you explain why Russians prefer Turkish beaches?

A woman cannot go to a foreign country without being a sex tourist?  Do they go to an agency in Istanbul and pick Turkish men out of a catalog?

[Hammer2722]

A woman cannot go to a foreign country without being a sex tourist?  Do they go to an agency in Istanbul and pick Turkish men out of a catalog?

Shhhhhh, you might be giving the Russian Mafia a whole new idea for their MOB business.