Meeting Someone There

[Vincenzo]

This trip in a few weeks will be my 3rd visit there this year, I won't say how many other visits I have made.

Wow! You travel 4 times a year to sit in a Crimean park and wait for a good lady to pass by.

[Handycam72]

    you are entertaining. Just shows how little you know.

[Vincenzo]

What should I know?
I'll call my Ukrainian friends and ask them to enlighten me.

[Muzh]

It's crowded beaches vs overcrowded beaches.

Do you wait in line for an hour to get into a tiny overcrowded restaurant with so-so food when there are bigger and nicer restaurants around the block?

Nope. I go to another restaurant and if the same is to be expected, I'd bring food with me. IT IS THE BEACH remember?
 
Want to go to a restaurant? Don't go to the beach.

[Misha]

Here is a Russian documentary "A lonely (or single) woman would like to meet"

Lilia from Moscow, a Russian woman who looks for a romance in Turkey, is a divorced mother of two adult children, she plays with Turkish gigolos like a cat with mouses.

http://rutube.ru/tracks/2149357.html?v=306dfbf81fcf0effeccabac4fc251e3d&&bmstart=1000

I finally had a chance to watch most of it (it is slow to download and freezes up quite often). It is interesting and highlights that there are a lot of lonely women in Russia willing to do lot to find a man willing to tell them a few compliments. It also highlights that many women also have high expectations: the women sitting at home waiting for the millionnaire foreign prince to sweep them off their feet, to the older women who did not like men her age as they were old dedushki or the women who do not want to commit as they are waiting for the taller or blonder or richer or more attractive guy that will surely come along

[Jumper]

I finally had a chance to watch most of it (it is slow to download and freezes up quite often). It is interesting and highlights that there are a lot of lonely women in Russia willing to do lot to find a man willing to tell them a few compliments. It also highlights that many women also have high expectations: the women sitting at home waiting for the millionnaire foreign prince to sweep them off their feet, to the older women who did not like men her age as they were old dedushki or the women who do not want to commit as they are waiting for the taller or blonder or richer or more attractive guy that will surely come along

true,
and the concept isn't a new one  ?
 
Moscow Does not Believe in Tears
 
 
 
now how much the princples detailed would also apply to average man looking to the FSU is the amusing part I suppose?
 
 
 

[Misha]

true,
and the concept isn't a new one  ?
 
Moscow Does not Believe in Tears
 
 
 
now how much the princples detailed would also apply to average man looking to the FSU is the amusing part I suppose?

Unrealistic expectations and fantasy drive most They even had a clip of a woman in an agency in Moscow flipping through folders of listings and photos. They noted, IIRC, that there were three women looking for every man listed at their agency...

[Vincenzo]

Unrealistic expectations and fantasy drive most

What's unrealistic about finding a handsome man with an athletic body and wisdom if a woman possesses these qualities herself (and some money)?

Some women like OlgaH don't care if a man is old, overweight, and ugly, but some do.

If they have to go abroad and find a gigolo for a few weeks, they will still enjoy it.
Obama's mother married a gigolo who had 11 wives.

[OlgaH]

Some women like OlgaH don't care if a man is old, overweight, and ugly, but some do.

Vincenzo, where did you get another your absurd from?

BTW Vincenzo are you Turkish? Your mentality reminds me Turkish men mentality.

[Vincenzo]

Vincenzo, where did you get another your absurd from?

BTW Vincenzo are you Turkish? Your mentality reminds me Turkish men mentality.

You wrote it yourself a few messages earlier:

even perfect male bodies don't blow off my "roof" and never did even when I was 20 years younger

What's wrong about men's mentality?
When a man wants to play with a super beautiful woman who is "out of his league", he has to pay, but he enjoys it.
Will you laugh at a short guy who is ignored by girls and can have sex only with an escort lady?

[OlgaH]

You wrote it yourself a few messages earlier:

 Ah such logic, only especially talented people may have such logic. Congratulations 

What's wrong about men's mentality?

Did I say something about men's mentality? I just asked you a question. Never mind.  Again congratulations 


Vincenzo, I tend to agree with guys you are entertaining 

[Annushka]

Vincenzo or [name edited out]?  If I am right, he is a Muslim and then I know why he prefer Turkey but not Crimea

[GQBlues]

This trip in a few weeks will be my 3rd visit there this year, I won't say how many other visits I have made.

Wow! You travel 4 times a year to sit in a Crimean park and wait for a good lady to pass by.

 
 
Well, let's just hope Joe Biden's not in charge of counting... 
 

[Misha]

What's unrealistic about finding a handsome man with an athletic body and wisdom if a woman possesses these qualities herself (and some money)?

Clearly, you did not watch and understand the video. The women were being unrealistic because the had little to none of what follows your if (not my if).

Some women like OlgaH don't care if a man is old, overweight, and ugly, but some do.

I have yet to meet any of those women, those who don't care if a man is old, overweight and ugly 

If they have to go abroad and find a gigolo for a few weeks, they will still enjoy it.

Watch the film, what they are paying for is the fantasy and not solely the sex. You even have a scene where a young local Russian man takes his sponsor, a much older woman from Moscow, shopping as he wants new jeans. He offers a young body and the fantasy of romance, she pays.

Obama's mother married a gigolo who had 11 wives.

No, the marriage did not last, but he was not a gigolo...

[Vincenzo]

Vincenzo or [name edited out]?  If I am right, he is a Muslim and then I know why he prefer Turkey but not Crimea

I also like beaches in California, Mexico, Brazil ...

[Vincenzo]

Watch the film, what they are paying for is the fantasy and not solely the sex. You even have a scene where a young local Russian man takes his sponsor, a much older woman from Moscow, shopping as he wants new jeans. He offers a young body and the fantasy of romance, she pays.

What's wrong about it?

When the woman was 20-30, crowds of boys invited her to restaurants, bought her gifts and flowers. Sometimes, she chose one and allowed him to love her. Once she is 40, nobody wants her, she has to pay.

[Misha]

Vince,

It is certainly harder, but not impossible if an older women is willing to wait and if she does not have unreasonable standards. I have friends in their forties, women who did find men.

Misha

[brian131]

Like I said in another thread, it happens.  There's a good looking guy here, great personality, good family, good education, good salary in his mid 20s engaged to a woman 20 years older.  She's attractive, but she's not offering anything except herself.  She just has a regular job, two kids...

Another guy I know is married to someone 12 years older for 15 years.  I dated someone 10 years older for 4 years.  It happens.  Actually, one of the most attractive women I have found so far was 44.

Getting close to my trip!  I should be landing in Kiev in about a month.

[Jooky]

Looking for a nice single mom who speaks English fairly well, intelligent, preferably in the 30-36 age range but I would consider 28-44.  Not looking for a super model, just trying to find Miss Right.  I'd actually prefer someone not as thin as most of the ones I see on EM.

I'd have a hard time meeting someone like that in the US.  They just aren't out as much because they are busy with their lives.

Any suggestions?

This should be easy to find in Russia. I've never been to Ukraine, so I can't comment if your set on going there. If not, I'd recommend you spend a few weeks in Moscow, rent a flat, and use mamba.ru and other methods* to set up dates.

Moscow is a good place for meeting women in public places. If you're comfortable approaching women in public (seems like you are)... go to the museums! Last time I was at the Pushkin Museum there were about 50 women to each man, no joke. The large parks might also be good places to meet someone (VDNKH, Gorky, Sokoloniki) or you can go to cafes, or just walk around the center.

The good thing is that there are tons of available women in Moscow that fit what you're looking for. The problem is that they tend to have busy lives (especially single mothers), so I recommend contacting women through mamba before you arrive to be on the safe side.

Turkey and Egypt are cool places to go on vacation. Meeting a woman there would be a real crapshoot though.

How much vacation time do you have?
 
Doh. Just saw your last post. Well, I recommend the same method in Kiev (rent a flat, contact some ladies before hand, use mamba or other methods, hit the parks, museums). Have fun!
 
* Other methods I recommend:
other Russian dating sites.
 
semi-recommend
ICQ (really, I've met women just randomly contacting them on ICQ before and set up dates for that same day).
social sites (vkontakte, odnoklassniki, facebook groups)
freepersonals.ru
elena's models
 
don't recommend
agencies and agency sites
 

[Daveman]

Quote from: Jack on Today at 14:56:56"And make sure you don't loose the woman's bikini bottoms, how embarrassing."

My Mom always taught me not to make fun of other people's errors unless I was absolutely certain I wasn't making any myself. 

My strategy is to make enough errors to overwhelm my detractors with a deluge fun fodder.      

[brian131]

don't recommend
agencies and agency sites

Well, luckily I manage to live a pretty happy life even in Afghanistan.  I'm a little lonely but not desperate and I don't accept second best. I won't do anything silly there.  I booked my flight to Kiev a few weeks before I even came up with the idea of trying to met someone.  If I end up just going as a tourist, I'll still have a great time.  I wanted to go to Ukraine just because I'm fascinated by Eastern Europe.  I really don't want to meet a Russian or Ukrainian woman, just a good woman...or none at all.  If I was going to Spain I'd be looking there. 

If I were super focused on meeting someone I would just go to Beijing.  My Mandarin was near fluent 10 years ago.  The Chinese consider their language too hard for Westerners to learn and are super impressed with anyone who can speak it.  They all want to meet you and they want to introduce you to friends.  My friend and I ended up going out clubbing with a Chinese movie star and her friends that way...limo and bodyguards and everything.  We were in a restaurant and the owner wanted to impress her with the cool Mandarin speaking Americans and wanted to impress us with the movie star.  She wasn't particularly interested in either of us, but she invited us out with her and her friends anyway.  She was gorgeous, but boring as hell.  We had a group of models on a photo shoot try to go out with us too, but their 'handler' wouldn't let them.  I think one of us said 'nice evening, isn't it' in Chinese as we passed them and their jaws dropped in amazement.  Of course I was 26 at the time and much better looking. 

I ran into some Russians in Beijing who spoke excellent Chinese and greeted them using the Chinese equivalent of "Comrade" because I thought it was a funny thing to say.  That was the start of a very bad evening, being threatened and forced to drink with the Russian mafia (obviously ex-KGB or ex-military) for about 4 hours.  That's what I get for being too friendly!

For now, I'm just going to work on learning Russian.  I enjoy it and it's one of the few hobbies I can have here in Afghanistan.  I also have some guards here who speak a little English and want to practice, so it's a great opportunity for me to learn to speak English with non-native speakers.  I should take advantage of the skills and resources I have available to me.  It's my unique advantage.  Plus all of my emails may amount to nothing in the end, but learning another language will always be cool.   

Счастливо!

[Gator]

What's wrong about it?

When the woman was 20-30, crowds of boys invited her to restaurants, bought her gifts and flowers. Sometimes, she chose one and allowed him to love her. Once she is 40, nobody wants her, she has to pay.

Nothing wrong with it.  It is a personal choice between two consenting adults.
 
Why make it a major issue? There are many older women everywhere looking for a young juicy boy.  Nevertheless, I imagine they are still small in number compared to older men looking for younger women. 
 
I have encountered older American women doing the same (cougars).  They state that they like the sex and energy, and they are not concerned with developing a LTR.  I am not a psychologist, yet I feel that this may be the explanation for some women:  man and woman divorce after kids complete high school, man gets a much younger girlfriend, cougar wants to prove to him and perhaps more to herself  that she can also do the same, especially with her share of the marital assets.   
 
One of my sons' friends had three relationships with older women when he was in his early 20s.  One was a good looking physician in her 30s.   He knew how to please,  he welcomed the financial support, and he sincerely enjoyed their company.

[mendeleyev]

If you stay at this hotel in Antalya, you'll find a few Russian ladies for sure.

Do you know any places like this in Crimea?

Yes you will find them there as well as other hotels. I must however tell you that some of them aren't guests -- some RW/UW work there and by saying that they work there I'm not hinting that they are cooks or maids.

[brian131]

...and by saying that they work there I'm not hinting that they are cooks or maids.

Economists?

[mendeleyev]

Economists?

Exactly.