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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2006, 05:21:12 PM »
[user=687]Daknack[/user] Russian food is way worse then even English food btw.[/quote]

Oy, I missed that one.....

Fish and Chips, with mushy peas and gravy, I'm telling you mate, there is nothing finer in the culinary department.

And, hamburgers, say no more.

Sorry, but buffalo wings that aren't even real buffalo, wtf!!!

Did you know the actual translation of 'nouveau cuisine' into English is really French for 'fück all' cos thats all you get and u have to ask has someone left the chefs kitchen door open, cos mines always full of leaves.....

I suggest u try one of our Holland Steak Puddings before you condemn our fine UK grub, they look just like a Soyuz spacecraft.

Only bit smaller.

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PS, this pic makes me SOOOO hungry...



And a Soyuz Korabl to put u off....

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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2006, 07:19:04 PM »
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Russian food is way worse then even English food btw.


 

What are you friggin' kidding? :shock:

Blini, pelmini, borsch, sturgeon soup, shash-liek, black caviar, the breads, the cheeses, Mmmmmm.......

About the only two things I've yet to aquire a taste for is red caviar, and salt fish in geletin.

The wife and I had fish and chips at the table where Marx did a good portion of the work on his Communist Manifesto upstairs at a small pub off Picadilly in London - IT SU*KED! (Although Chateaubriand at Covent Garden was admittedly pretty damn tasty)
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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2006, 08:29:17 PM »
Who really cares if somebody doesn't approve of your choice of a spouse? What matters is that you and your wife are happy together. I'm sure some small minded people are going to be critical, but those are the same people that are going to be critical of people that marry outside their race. If you want to surround yourself with bigots, that's your choice.

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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2006, 09:24:39 PM »
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I suggest u try one of our Holland Steak Puddings.....

Sorry, Ste, but that platter you posted looks just like the slop they once served at Fort Ord.

In Aberstwyth, Wales, I ordered Bubbles and Squeak - just so I could say, yeah, I've tried that. (Had to keep the windows rolled down all the way to Cardiff)

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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2006, 10:07:19 PM »
I think I dont much care for russian food because I find mayo to be the most repugnant food on the planet.

Also Ste Hamburgers have NO origin in England.  Their origins begin actually with the Tatars, who would tenderize meat by putting it under saddles  as they rode.  Afterward the meat would be cut and ground up and eaten in pattys.  From there it migrated to Germany (the city of Hamburg to be exact hence the name it carries now).  Hamburg became a city popular with Americans travelling overseas before the turn of the century.  It was sold at the time under the name "american steak" for the primary consumers of the food.  Back then they used more expensive cuts of meat, ground into pattys topped with pickles and a butter fried egg.  Rather then use buns or dinner rolls as came the custom later, they used buttered slices of thick square like bread (like a loaf of bread you would buy in the US but thicker).  The sandwich would be consumed with a big mug of German beer (What else would they drink???) for a cheap dinner.  Americans would often come back to the US (mostly in New York City) and ask for a "Hamburger" which would at that point be made in the German style egg and all.  Just think when you order a sausage egg mc muffin thats close to the original hamburger.  The hamburger became what it is today at the Worlds Fair (I think the year was 1904 but dont quote me on that) in which the eggs which were not as durable were replaced with lettuce, tomato, onion, and the butter was replaced with Ketchup and Mustard.  The Bread was replaced with dinner rolls.  This was the first time most Americans had come across the food, and many went home and showed local eaterys how to make a hamburger.

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« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2006, 01:43:11 AM »
Although I don't like English food as a general rule because it is so bland, I have learned to appreciate a few dishes. They have a pub here called the Crown and Anchor where all the Brits hang out and they have a lot of the English food there. I like the fries with curry sauce and they have roast Leg of Lamb on sunday night that is pretty good.

As a whole, it's not as tasty as American food, though. We have the Philly Cheese Steaks that rock and it's hard to find anything better than barbequed ribs cooked over mesquite or hickory. We are a little spoiled here in America because we have such a wide variety of ethnic groups that all brought their culinary talents with them when they came over here. 

 I have a very fun little game I like to play with Yankees, Brits, and Canucks. I take them to my favorite Mexican restaurant and then laugh hysterically as their eyes pop out of their skulls and begin to water and their faces turn red. Most of them think they've had Mexican food before, but it's usually nothing better than Chilli's quality. My last girlfriend was from Baltimore and I used to laugh my ass off at her as she would try to eat mexican food with me. She eventually did become accustomed to the spicy food, though, and Mexican is now her favorite food. Last week, they had some members of the RAF that were training at Nellis AFB out here and one of their American counterparts evidently liked to play the same game I do. You should have heard the cussing and I think their cerveza bill tripled, compared to what it would have been.

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« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2006, 03:33:24 AM »
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Sorry, but buffalo wings that aren't even real buffalo, wtf!!!

Steve...Now don't you go messin' with my Buffalo Wings!!!!

Ain't nothin' better than Deep Fried Chicken Wings smothered in Frank's Hotsauce & an Ice Cold Kokenee for drinkin'!!!

I find most European food bland. I've had to introduce my wife to an array of spices to use when cooking. I like a little flavour in my food.

I really enjoy pelimini with Franks Hotsauce, mmmmm, tasty!!!:D

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« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2006, 03:50:07 AM »
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Sorry, but buffalo wings that aren't even real buffalo, wtf!!!
Steve...Now don't you go messin' with my Buffalo Wings!!!!

Ain't nothin' better than Deep Fried Chicken Wings smothered in Frank's Hotsauce & an Ice Cold Kokenee for drinkin'!!!

I find most European food bland. I've had to introduce my wife to an  array of spices to use when cooking. I like a little flavour in my food.

I really enjoy pelimini with Franks Hotsauce, mmmmm, tasty!!!:D

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Rvr,

 It's 5:48 AM here and all it took was seeing the word Kokenee to get my mouth watering for one. D@mn You!

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« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2006, 06:17:20 AM »
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Who really cares if somebody doesn't approve of your choice of a spouse? What matters is that you and your wife are happy together. I'm sure some small minded people are going to be critical, but those are the same people that are going to be critical of people that marry outside their race. If you want to surround yourself with bigots, that's your choice.

Of course what you say is true, but you won't be living on an island and you also will not be able to pick and choose who's paths you will cross as you live your life.  And when the entertainment industry picks up on a negative depiction of MOB's and their husbands, the negativity gets spread into the fabric of our society.  So even if you don't care, it is a concept that you have to be aware of and it is a potential problem for your RW.

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« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2006, 08:12:45 AM »
Has anyone here ever seen a MOB or a RW/AM marriage portrayed in a positive manner? BY the entertainment industry? The quasi-news shows? Or even in a hard news printed article? Besides of course the numerous forums like this one that are specific to the topic, I have never seen the positive side of this process made public. With only the negative aspects of this process getting any play in the media, there is no doubt in my mind that we all will have to continue to face the prjudices and negative attitudes that our society will thrust upon us.

 I think that the publics image of RW has already changed somewhat because of the high profile Russian beauties like Kornikova and Shaperova. It was not too long ago that the American public thought all RW weighed 300 LBS, wore sun dresses, with their hair in scarves while digging potatoes in the field. Why? Because that is how the American media portrayed them. Americans just never knew any better. I remember explaining exactly that to my wife back in '99 when she first arrived. No sooner were the words out of my mouth, that there was a news story on a national news program about Russia or Ukraine. The "stock" news footage they showed as the story was told was of an overweight RW with teeth missing serving a huge plate of potatoes!!!! That was the perception of RW then. At least now, the public understands that RW can be beautiful because of the exposure of Kornikova and others.

The next step, of showing the class, culture and sophistication of RW will be much more difficult.
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« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2006, 08:22:50 AM »
The first few months Elena was here anytime we would watch a movie the bad guys were always Russian. At first it upset her (we talked about it and the perceptions of Americans for so many years), but now she just says "Oh yeah, bad Russians again."

To answer your question, no I have not seen any positive portrayel of a FSUW with a WM in any media situation unless you count the comical situations in a recent couple of movies that I have heard about but not seen and I don't think that either one of these is what we would call positive. They are simply not negative.

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« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2006, 08:48:09 AM »
Ken C - I agree completely that I have never read, seen or heard a positive comment about Russian women in our country.  Hopefully, that will change over time.  Maybe you should go on the next iteration of Oprah when she looks at American / Russian wives and take the feminazi's on.  With editing etc. I suspect even you and your wife may actually come accross as something other than apple pie - so I would not recommend it.  Perhaps you could get on a documentary?

DaKnack - my wife knows my disgust with mayonaise.  Everything she prepares for me is free of mayonaise.  When I visit her relatives they make sure I get no white creamy heart attack on my plate.  Occasionally there is always something or some dish where some mayonaise gets on there, so I wipe off the majority of it and keep on eating.  My wife is actually very happy having adopted my diet for the most part and severely limiting her mayonaise consumption.  She actually feels so much better now that she has a much healthier diet here in the USA.

Catzenmouse - I'll vote for:

- I went to Russia and All I got was this Great Wife!

Now you need to start your interent tee-shirt business!
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« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2006, 08:58:54 AM »
Bruce,

You gotta be kidding!  I would never expose myself to that crap.  A few years ago, the owner of Foreign Affair and his wife went on the View.  He and his wife tried in vain to present a dignified insight to the process.  It was in vain though because the women from the View went nuts on them.  They likened the RW listed with agencies to prostitutes and whores.  Fat azz Star was the worst.  I remember her line:"Why would a man go to Russia when there are so many fine single American women available?"  The audience (of AW) gave her a standing "O."

BTW, the mayo use does subside over time.  Lena now uses it sparingly.  She still however finds it necessary to add it into my homemade chicken soup!  YUCK!

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« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2006, 11:44:35 AM »
I want to be like Donald Trump, he prefers Eastern Europeans.:dude:

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« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2006, 01:32:41 PM »
I never saw that on "The View", but you should consider who that show is geared towards: fat, unemployed AW's that sit around the house all day in their sweats. I've seen those women on the view be very harsh in the past as well. I know they were all over Hef and his girls when they came on the show.

 

If Fat AZZ Star had made the comment to me, I would have responded by telling her to look in the mirror because she represents most American women: overweight, spoiled, horrible personality, and ignorant.

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« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2006, 02:02:57 PM »
If you took out the Mayo, Im sure most of it would be decent.  But mayo... mixed in veges you get outta a can?  Whats up with that.  Thats just gross.

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« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2006, 03:40:48 PM »
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Rvr,

 It's 5:48 AM here and all it took was seeing the word Kokenee to get my mouth watering for one. D@mn You!

Ken

If you ever make it for a visit Ken I think you best stick a couple of bottles in your suitcase for me.;) Don't worry about the hotwings, just got a shipment of 8 bottles from a Canadian friend that came over a week ago. Should last me a month or two.:D
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If Fat AZZ Star had made the comment to me, I would have responded by telling her to look in the mirror because she represents most American women: overweight, spoiled, horrible personality, and ignorant.

Gee, were you gonna try & butter her up cause I sure as hell wouldn't have been that polite. The last AW that asked me that question shortly before I moved her to be with my wife got an earful & her husband was standing right beside her & I didn't go to easy on him either. Believe me those who know me know 'Politicaly Correct' is not in my vocabulary & they also know I won't say anything behind your back that I wouldn't say to your face. Needless tosay thats two less friends I have in my life & good ridance!!!:P

By the by-Star is the biggest, ugliest, lardass I have ever seen, so she ain't got no room to yap off. If my dog had a face like that-I'd shave its ass & teach it to walk backwards!!! You can bloody tell her I said so too!!! That womans got nerve, no brains but plenty of nerve. Comparing her to my wife is like comparing Cherries & Lemons & she's the Lemons (A whole truckload of 'em!!!!!!)

I'm just gettin' started but I'll quit anyway, LOL.:D:)

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« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2006, 01:41:17 AM »
Rvrwind,

You have to make a little concession for me because I'm not as old as you are yet and haven't had a chance to become as mean and grizzled just yet. If it will help, though, I will go to a strict diet of buffalo wings with Franks red hot sauce and Kokenee. :burnedup:

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« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2006, 02:16:10 AM »
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Rvrwind,

You have to make a little concession for me because I'm not as old as you are yet and haven't had a chance to become as mean and grizzled just yet. If it will help, though, I will go to a strict diet of buffalo wings with Franks red hot sauce and Kokenee. :burnedup:

LMAO Don't know if that'll help or not.

:noidea:Way off Topic, sorry.

I don't figure I'm 'old & grizzled'. I been outspoken all my life. I just don't believe in pussyfootin' around. All this PC Speak makes me wanna puke. Call a spade a spade & been done with it.

Evertime I turn around I see the government implimenting more laws to protect people from their own stupidity, makes me gag. If their two stupid to use common sense & figure it out on their own then they bloody well deserve whatever befalls them.

A prme example is the woman who spilled a coffee in her lap while driving her car & because she bought it at McDonalds she sues McDonalds. DUHHHH!!! I just shake my head everytime I think of that. I cannot believe some dumbass judge thought that McDonalds was guilty of anything in that situation. It was her own stupidity, but did anybody have the guts to tell her that, no, wouldn't be PC. Well I'll tell tell you what...I'd a had no qualms about telling her flat out..Your a friggin' idiot & deserve exactly what your own stupidity has brought down on you.

When you got judges like that & people in high places like that, who are supposed to be the cream of the crop & the most intelligent in our society don't you ever stop & think about what that is all leading to? I do & it scares the hell out of me. If these guys are the best & most intteligent then my friend this world is in a whole sh**load of trouble.

Its high time people started taking responsibility for there actions & suffering the consiquences thereof, instead of expecting everybody else to pay for their stupidity. I ain't old & grizzled, I just seen too much bull to have any desire to put up with it anymore, & I ain't gonna cave in to their PC Speak just to spare their itty bitty feelings. Just because they ain't got any friggin' brains doesn't mean I should have to live at their level. Most people got brains, just seems to me that 80% of them don't have a friggin' clue how to use them.

You see, guys like me, well we are around because too many others don't have the balls to stand up & say it like it is. Maybe if there were more like me instead of so many hiding behind the lawyers & the government to solve all their problems this world would be much more honest, straightup & easier to live in instead of tippytoeing around being afraid you might say or do the wrong thing & hurt somebodies itty bitty feelin's.

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« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2006, 02:49:58 AM »
That's what happens when lawyers start calling the shots, rvrwind. Some Lawyer sees a big pay day and decides to file suit. As preposterous as that McDonald's case was, I can think of a couple that were even worse.

A couple of years ago, a man purchased a new coachman RV and was heading down the road when he decided he'd like a cup of cocoa. He decided to get up and fix himself a cup. One problem, he didn't bother to pull the car over before he went back to make his cup of cocoa. He was able to successfully sue the coachman corporation because it didn't say in the owners manual that you can't get up from the driver's seat and head to the back when the car is in drive. I think he got $750 K for that. And then, there was the burglar who successfully sued the home owners when he broke into their house, got trapped in their garage, and was forced to live for a week on dog food and bottled water while the home owners were on vacation. I blame the juries more than the judges, though.

Your buddy Star is a lawyer, go figure.

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« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2006, 05:55:16 AM »
Hello,

I just need some help locating and communicating with a possible Russian bride. Where there are no scams or gimicks. I want to start a new life with a young wife. My email is vewalden@yahoo.com if there is anyone that can help me out. Thanks

 

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« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2006, 06:03:41 AM »
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Hello,

I just need some help locating and communicating with a possible Russian bride. Where there are no scams or gimicks. I want to start a new life with a young wife. My email is vewalden@yahoo.com if there is anyone that can help me out. Thanks

 

Rick

Rick,

 Read through this site a bit more and pay attention. Pretty much all of your questions will be answered in the threads already written.

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« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2006, 07:32:22 AM »
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Hello,

I just need some help locating and communicating with a possible Russian bride. Where there are no scams or gimicks. I want to start a new life with a young wife. My email is vewalden@yahoo.com if there is anyone that can help me out. Thanks

 

Rick

Rick,

Post your questions in the "starting out" section and you will be sure to get them answered.

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« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2006, 02:57:55 PM »
QUOTE:    "A prme example is the woman who spilled a coffee in her lap while driving her car & because she bought it at McDonalds she sues McDonalds. DUHHHH!!! I just shake my head everytime I think of that. I cannot believe some dumbass judge thought that McDonalds was guilty of anything in that situation. It was her own stupidity, but did anybody have the guts to tell her that, no, wouldn't be PC. Well I'll tell tell you what...I'd a had no qualms about telling her flat out..Your a friggin' idiot & deserve exactly what your own stupidity has brought down on you."


You know I thought this as well until after I read the case.  The facts of the case were never really reported correctly.  The coffee was served not hot, but literally boiling (they admitted to missetting the temperature on the coffee pot).  And the coffee was not actually spilled, but had melted through the styrofoam coffee cup burning the womans no-no area causing second degree burns.  Based on what was reported (rather misreported) I would think the woman was a dumbass too, but in the end your not supposed to put boiling coffee in containers that will melt to people.  Do I think it was a bit overblown?  Yeah probably.  Do I think she walked away with too much $?  Yeah probably.  But I do think she had a case.

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« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2006, 03:49:23 PM »
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[user=687]Daknack[/user] Russian food is way worse then even English food btw.



Oy, I missed that one.....

Fish and Chips, with mushy peas and gravy, I'm telling you mate, there is nothing finer in the culinary department.

And, hamburgers, say no more.

Sorry, but buffalo wings that aren't even real buffalo, wtf!!!

Did you know the actual translation of 'nouveau cuisine' into English is really French for 'fück all' cos thats all you get and u have to ask has someone left the chefs kitchen door open, cos mines always full of leaves.....

I suggest u try one of our Holland Steak Puddings before you condemn our fine UK grub, they look just like a Soyuz spacecraft.

Only bit smaller.

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PS, this pic makes me SOOOO hungry...


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I'd be glad to wash that down with nice tall glass Engish beer.  Preferably, off the tap.  I've never been much of a picky eater, as long as my beer is off the tap.

 

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