Need info about canadian visa

[ECOCKS]

Which country will be better to meet ?

Russia.

You might want to read through this thread where we covered this topic a week or so ago.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=14007.msg279326#msg279326

[Olly]

visit her and if you want to live together in Canada she can apply for fiancee-visa

[Misha]

visit her and if you want to live together in Canada she can apply for fiancee-visa

We don't have fiancee visas in Canada. His only option is to marry her, sponsor her and wait for her to get permanent residence.

[Olly]

ok visit her in russia or another country few times and if you want to live together in Canada marry her 

[Jooky]

No, if they have a relationship, he will be told to sponsor her   

Is this true? It definitely wouldn't be true in the US, but I don't know about Canada's immigration services.
 
What's the big problem with her trying for a tourist visa?

[Olly]

No, if they have a relationship, he will be told to sponsor her   

what you mean "to sponsor her"?

[Misha]

Is this true? It definitely wouldn't be true in the US, but I don't know about Canada's immigration services.
 
What's the big problem with her trying for a tourist visa?

IMHO, best to plan for realistic options. We know that Yves can get a visa and that he can travel to Russia. They can set dates, buy tickets. She can apply for a visa and odds are quite high that she will be rejected. Then again, I am a firm believer that it is best to visit her first in her home country and preferably home city .

[Misha]

what you mean "to sponsor her"?

A Canadian signs a sponsorship agreement so his or her spouse can apply for permanent residence and a husband sponsoring a wife thus agrees to support her financially for three years after her arrival in Canada. If a man's wife leaves him and he was the sponsor, he is legally obliged to support her financially for the duration of those three years.

[Olly]

A Canadian signs a sponsorship agreement so his or her spouse can apply for permanent residence and a husband sponsoring a wife thus agrees to support her financially for three years after her arrival in Canada. If a man's wife leaves him and he was the sponsor, he is legally obliged to support her financially for the duration of those three years.

i see but we talk about relationship and tourist visa not about wife.

[YvesM]

Thanks for all advice, i will go sleep

[ECOCKS]

Canada and the United States don't have sponsored tourist visas like the FSU does, Olly.

If you attempt to "sponsor" a gal the interviewer is concerned that once she is in-country the two might marry and she attempts to stay without an immigration visa.

It is pretty difficult to get travel visas into the US and Canada for most FSU citizens.

[BillyB]

what you mean "to sponsor her"?

Sponsor can be a bad word for good girls. Guys should not use this word when communicating with the ladies out there.

[Olly]

Canada and the United States don't have sponsored tourist visas like the FSU does, Olly.

If you attempt to "sponsor" a gal the interviewer is concerned that once she is in-country the two might marry and she attempts to stay without an immigration visa.

It is pretty difficult to get travel visas into the US and Canada for most FSU citizens.

the same in Australia )

[Jooky]

IMHO, best to plan for realistic options.

Based on what though? He hasn't given much information at all.
 
It's not so difficult for a Russian to get a tourist visa to the US these days and it's been getting easier every year. It depends on the circumstances.
 
I don't know about Canada, but I do have several Russian friends who've visited there recently. Is it really so impossible?

[Olly]

I don't know about Canada, but I do have several Russian friends who've visited there recently. Is it really so impossible?

it is possible but so difficult for single russian woman

[Boethius]

I have done many visas for Ukrainian relatives, including single individuals with no children.  There are a lot of Ukrainians who come here for educational purposes, professional training, and even as temporary workers.

In my case, I have had to provide proof that I have sufficient income to provide for them here.  It's not a high amount, as I recall, I don't pay much attention, as my income exceeds the minimum threshhold.  There have been a few bumps at times, but nothing major, and the one time it was a problem (back when Ukrainians processed the papers and demanded bribes), I contacted my MP, and the problem disappeared very quickly.

I don't know if the process is different for Russians - it may be, all the Russians I've met here are immigrants, not visitors, and there are political reasons for allowing Ukrainians here on work/education visas, and I assume it would be different in a non family class.  So, I'd suggest retaining a lawyer, if even for an hour, to get enough information to know what to expect.

[Olly]

i think it is the best advice to ask a lawyer

[Misha]

I have done many visas for Ukrainian relatives, including single individuals with no children.

It is one thing to invite a relative when you are a married woman, another to invite a single woman when you are man when you are not a relative    Yes, there is a chance that she will get a visa if she has property in Russia and is in a job where she is earning a lot of money, but there is still a good chance that this will raise a lot of suspicions with the consular officials. If she were traveling for business or to visit close relatives or friends she has known for years, that be a different story.


At the end of the day, IMHO it will still be easier for Yves to fly to Russia, and meet her there even if she can get a visa.

[YvesM]

We will try to get a Canadian Visa and we will see what it will happen. And will let you know if it is positive or negative.

Maybe i'm too positive but i prefer think that way.

Thanks for the information i will be back in each step of this procedure, and maybe it will help other one about it.

Yves

[Misha]

We will try to get a Canadian Visa and we will see what it will happen. And will let you know if it is positive or negative.

Maybe i'm too positive but i prefer think that way.

Thanks for the information i will be back in each step of this procedure, and maybe it will help other one about it.

Yves

One final thing, if she starts saying that she needs all this money for the visa, for plane tickets, etc... be very careful. She may simply disappear once she has the money never to be heard from ever again. The general rule or commandment, is not to send money to a woman that you have never met and I say that this rule still holds no matter how many hours and months you may have spent on Skype.

[Boethius]

It is one thing to invite a relative when you are a married woman, another to invite a single woman when you are man when you are not a relative    Yes, there is a chance that she will get a visa if she has property in Russia and is in a job where she is earning a lot of money, but there is still a good chance that this will raise a lot of suspicions with the consular officials. If she were traveling for business or to visit close relatives or friends she has known for years, that be a different story.


At the end of the day, IMHO it will still be easier for Yves to fly to Russia, and meet her there even if she can get a visa.

True, but a lot of single Ukrainians come here on education visas as well, including working in law firms/banks/hospitals, etc., to learn skills to take back to Ukraine.   While these are not tourist visas, and I agree, it is more difficult to obtain a tourist visa, it is not unheard of.  That's why I'd suggest speaking to an immigration lawyer.  They will know exactly what information to provide, and know the chance of success.

Yes, absolutely, never send money, not even for a plane ticket.

ETA - PS - There is a poster at Manny's forum who did arrange to have a Ukrainian woman visit him on a tourist visa.  That was fairly recent, within the last six months or so.

[ECOCKS]

There is a big difference between educational and work/study visas and tourist visas.

If the guy wants to spend his money like this that's his perrogative. He asked, got good advice about the odds and Commandments and is deciding to try it anyway.

Some people have to learn from experience rather than accepting advice.

[YvesM]

Like i told you everyone i will tell you every step i'm doing and maybe it will help someone else too.

I spoke with Service Canada today and they told me it seems no problem if the person as no criminal record, that she could proof she will return in her country after the visit. And the delay is not long not too much difficult also.

We will see next

Yves

[Misha]

Like i told you everyone i will tell you every step i'm doing and maybe it will help someone else too.

I spoke with Service Canada today and they told me it seems no problem if the person as no criminal record, that she could proof she will return in her country after the visit. And the delay is not long not too much difficult also.

We will see next

Yves

That is always the stickler    If the consular officials have any doubts, they can rightfully reject a visa application.

[ML]

I spoke with Service Canada today and they told me it seems no problem if the person as no criminal record, that she could proof she will return in her country after the visit.

But we can't really believe the 'nice' words that are spoken by these people.
The truth is a little harder to explain, so they just stick with the politically correct words.

For instance;  I was at US Embassy in a FSU country with a business colleague who had lost his US Passport.  While standing around waiting, I struck up a  conversation with another AM who was there with his FSU girlfriend.  He told me they  were going to try to get her a tourist visa to USA so she could spend some time to see if she liked USA and would like to live there with him as his  wife.

I told him that she would never get a tourist visa if they knew she was romantically involved with an AM.  He disbelieved me as his reasoning was sound that it would be best if she first did the logical check of USA; and the Embassy people would surely understand that.

And sure enough, the Embassy clerical people  were courteous to this couple, gave them all the forms needed to apply for the tourist visa, smiled big and sent them on their naive happy  way.