Somebody wants me to visit her, we just met..

[RGC]

To begin with my apologies if this is incorrect section, didn't know where to place it, and since I am starting out...

Here it is, I have not posted too much here because I have been busy reading the advice and questions from others, which by the way there is a lot of material and I am thankful I found it.

Now to my question, there is a lady who contacted me on EM, we have written around 8 messages to each other, when I asked her about skype she told me: "Yeah, I should set it up, definitely!"
But, she hasn't. She asked me if I am interested on meeting her, and I said yes. So now she tells me she does not need to get skype and I should come to Kiev and celebrate New Years... well I don't know really.
I don't need advice to know that I should know her better before going there. All I have by the way is her contact on EM, no email address or anything.

Has any of this ever happened to anyone?

[CanadaMan]

I don't need advice to know that I should know her better before going there. All I have by the way is her contact on EM, no email address or anything.

Has any of this ever happened to anyone?

It probably has happened to someone here before. Someone may pipe in who experienced this.

That's not the important thing.
The important thing is what you mentioned in the paragraph before you asked your question.

[Patagonie]

To begin with my apologies if this is incorrect section, didn't know where to place it, and since I am starting out...

Here it is, I have not posted too much here because I have been busy reading the advice and questions from others, which by the way there is a lot of material and I am thankful I found it.

Now to my question, there is a lady who contacted me on EM, we have written around 8 messages to each other, when I asked her about skype she told me: "Yeah, I should set it up, definitely!"
But, she hasn't. She asked me if I am interested on meeting her, and I said yes. So now she tells me she does not need to get skype and I should come to Kiev and celebrate New Years... well I don't know really.
I don't need advice to know that I should know her better before going there. All I have by the way is her contact on EM, no email address or anything.

Has any of this ever happened to anyone?

It's not necessary a bad sign that she had not given you her email at first reply. When it happens it's often scammers who try to get out of EM.
Now i think that can be a test from her. They know that a lot (when they are not newbies) of guys never get a plane. They also consider that Kiev (depending where you are living) is a very affordable place.
So you have two solutions : tell her that you need to know her a little more before jump in a plane (but in this case you will be stucked in a WOVO or WMVO) or
Prepare one or several backups (in Kiev it's easy) and buy a ticket.
Be sure that she lives in Kiev. And insist on this issue, because if she is not so it can be a scam ("i need to take a taxi, send me the money first .... usual BS")

[Faux Pas]

Da, it's not a bad sign (yet). Hit the brakes for the time being and do the due diligence on getting to know the lady. Skype is essential. Insist she get it at once and start talking today. If she's not willing, move on. Life is too short.

[Gator]

It is a little late to be planning a New Year's trip.  I question why her  plans for New Year's are open.  Maybe she had planned to just spend it with family. 
 
If you fly to visit only one woman, you should really know her.  You can't begin to know her until you have talked at least 10 hours about values, life, goals, etc.  With Skype you will get a better sense of how you feel.  Insist on Skype.   She should agree if you say you are corresponding only with her and you want to learn more about compatibility before making the trip.
 

[ghost of moon goddess]

While you were composing your message on this thread she might have sent off New Year party invitations to dozens of other WM. Why not?  It doesn't actually cost her anything. This time, instead of hurry, love being late,  RGC

[RGC]

Thank you all for you help, mainly I just wanted to hear if there are somebody who has had a similar experience

The thing is that I am very open to travel there, but she is the only person I have talked to from Kiev, so for that reason it would be really dumb.
But I am definitely traveling there, I had already planned on going there this past summer, but I feel like if I go there it has to be more on my "terms"

Cheers

[Patagonie]

Ya not got to go in hurry without any real plans

[CanadaMan]

The thing is that I am very open to travel there, but she is the only person I have talked to from Kiev, so for that reason it would be really dumb.

No, according to many WOVO vets here on RWD, traveling to meet just one woman is not dumb at all.

What is dumb however, is traveling to meet one women after a few e-mails and not much other correspondence. 

[Turboguy]

I think there are so many men who write and never make a trip to meet women that it is probably not that uncommon to have a woman suggest meeting very early in communications.  I had that happen after one or two messages quite often.  I would not take that too seriously.
 
The catch 22 I always ran into was I wanted enough messages back and forth to think a woman was serious before thinking about visiting and the women wanted a visit committment before they wasted a lot of time writing all those messages back and forth.  About the time I would decide it might be worth making a trip the woman would decide I was wasting her time and stop writing.
 
The important thing is to have enough communication the think that she might fit the type of woman you would want to spend your life with.

[Manny]

What is dumb however, is traveling to meet one women after a few e-mails and not much other correspondence. 

Indeed.

Get to know her on the telephone/Skype/private emails first.

She sounds to me like a pro dater who just wants anyone and anyone to visit for pre-planned shopping trips and general wallet emptying exercises.

[JR]

Hey I am sure she would much rather spend two years emailing you than to actually meet....
But no skype, no phone, no email? I would not book a flight for that!

[viking]

Bottom line:

 You don't know her. Telling her you would have no problem visiting, after you get to know her better, may show you a different side. As others have stated, many RW talk with a lot of guys, most of whom will never see the insides of a plane. In their mind, a guy who does come over is a serious prospect for them. But only a prospect. But they also know, for those who are truly serious, that it can take some time to develop a relationship. Best advice is take your time and don't succumb to any "come here now or I am gone". That type of woman you want to stay away from.

For all you know she may be talking to 40 guys hoping ONE of them will pay for her New Years outfit and party.

[ghost of moon goddess]

Hey I am sure she would much rather spend two years emailing you than to actually meet....

You can’t be sure... unless you know for certain
Do you know the girl in question? 

[Eduard]

No, according to many WOVO vets here on RWD, traveling to meet just one woman is not dumb at all.

What is dumb however, is traveling to meet one women after a few e-mails and not much other correspondence. 

I know that WOVO is a popular option among some, but IME it would work only a small percentage of time. I've gone to Russia and Ukraine enough times with my guys to know that most of the times when a guy thinks "she is the one" about a woman he winds up really connecting with the one who was number 2 or 3 or even 4 on the list. Many times the one who seems to be a sure thing when writing and skyping, is quite different when we meet her in real life and spend a couple of days with her. On the other hand sometimes the one who seem to be more like a "back up plan" ends up to be the one who the guy marries in the end. You really never know.
IMO it is a good practice to get to know a woman as well as possible before making a trip to see her (especially if you have to travel from US, Canada or Australia), and if you go to see 4 or 5 of them who you had connected well with through correspondence first, it is almost impossible not to connect with at least one of them when you meet face to face.

[Muzh]

Ahem, let's address the elephant in the room.


Er, Mr. Pachyderm, how old are you and how old is she?


IOW, sounds like a party girl.

[Olly]

RGC! i think she just want to brag to friends on the party that she have a foreign boyfriend. do you want to spend a lot of money for this?

[Kuna]

RGC! i think she just want to brag to friends on the party that she have a foreign boyfriend. do you want to spend a lot of money for this?

I guess the answer to your question will be known through the answer to Muhz's question.

If he's old and she is young he may very well answer "YES!"   

[Olly]

If he's old and she is young he may very well answer "YES!"   

but it is silly to spend money for one-visit-girl!

[JR]

You can’t be sure... unless you know for certain
Do you know the girl in question? 

Yeah, I think I met her somewhere....