Realistic Expectations

[Maxx2]

I will sell all my shoes on ebay))

Good to know you have a back up plan 

[sniper]

There were some posts on Russian women entitlement attitude. Yes, we do have such women who expect a man to hand them a ready luxurious life on a silver platter for their pair of beautiful legs, or what is between legs. For some couples actually it works.

Why it has to be 'for their pair of beautiful legs, or what is between legs '? May be its also something else other than legs and between legs - no? Unfortunately, for men who can offer luxurious life just 'breasts-legs' arent satisfying like it used to be say 10 years ago. 

[GQBlues]

Would you be so kind to show me my exact quote where I said it?

OlgaH-
 
You cannot 'quote' implications. I didn't say you 'said it', I said you implied. It is in the position and manner you took on the debate, remember? You even asked me a question about the matter which I addressed...
 
...and speaking of which, you haven't answered my question above. 

[sniper]

Good to know you have a back up plan 

Theres no better investment than a pair of Manolos or Louboutins  I wish more men saw it this way )

[Maxx2]

Theres no better investment than a pair of Manolos or Louboutins  I wish more men saw it this way )

I think I saw some of those at a Russian flea market for about 300 rubles. I bought some Christian Dior socks once there but they fell apart in the wash 

[Gator]

Theres no better investment than a pair of Manolos or Louboutins  I wish more men saw it this way )

You have splendid tastes.  I saw some Manolos on a pedestal under the bright lights at Neiman Marcus (aka Needless Markup).
 
Investment?  Perhaps if you wear them the way I wear my Church's shoes.  Today my shoes sell for $700.  When I purchased mine 15-20 years ago I paid only half that and people thought me crazy.  They still look great today.  I have two pairs.    I will be buried in one and put the other pair in my estate plan.
 
Something tells me that you have more than two pair of Manolos and will wear them 3 years max.   That's okay.  The investment derives from making you feel good and from preventing foot problems.  Buy a great mattress also (we spend most of our lives on our feet and in feet). 

[Gator]

Danny will know who this is.

Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway.   

[OlgaH]

OK, answering your question 

Let me ask you a Q, would you be happy to shop garage sales every month not-to-exceed 50 bucks for your clothes? Be honest now. I know I won't be. What if the pants didn't fit and the place is 20 miles away and I only paid 3 bucks for it? What if, like Canada, winter makes this a bit cumbersome? LOL.

No way you can call me frugal  I'm glad my husband is not either. But we both like coupons and savings  I did not have any experience at garage sale.  There were times when we were driving by and I would love to stop because I saw some interesting iron bird cages and some pots and garden figurines, but we did not have time. Would I buy for example a dress at garage sale? Why not. Only if I liked it, it fitted me well and was absolutely  new.  I remember when we took our father to a flee market he needed to find some kind of mechanic detail or whatever. Can you imagine I bought a dress for $10 made by local seamstress, because I liked the dress and I did not give a rat a$$ who made it and where  I also remember after shopping at Dillard's, Macy's and Cache (by the way I always have a good deal at these stores) I asked Robert what is "Goodwill." He explained me and I told him I want to look. I bought an absolutely brand new beach robe of good quality, pure cotton, the exact robe I needed to hide myself from the Florida sun and I could not find in the others stores. I was a happy camper. I still take that robe with me on cruises. 

I also like Marshall's and Target. The clothes I buy there fits me perfectly. I like Stein Mart, but I never were lucky there with my dress, skirt and pants size. Their size 2 fits my hips but too big for my waist.

Every time when we go out or for business meetings, monthly Bar luncheon meetings, special events like a county Judicial receptions I always get compliments on how wonderful I look. Yes, and sometimes it is funny when women lawyers compliment my business dress saying that they were looking everywhere for a similar dress. (and dress for example is bought at Marshall's for $39 or at Target for $14  )
 
I don't shop every month for my clothes as I don't have such need. When I shop I know exactly what I need and want, and I will never buy a dress without trying it on.

My shopping usually exceeds $50, but sometimes it is less than $50 

If you give me an ultimatum that I should shop only at garage sales with no more than $50 and will force me to do so... no, it is not my style  and never were in Russia.

So, when I was looking for a man I was looking for a man who would share the same lifestyle, ideas and goals I had and have. Would I fell in love with a man who would have a different point of view on life, different lifestyle? I doubt. My husband and I like to have a good time, fun and like our father would say "spending, spending spending"  but we also both work for it and like savings 

Every lifestyle is different and of course require different spending.

[ML]

Men die more often than women.

You mean the RW don't get to experience reincarnation also?   

Seems discriminatory to me!   

[Misha]

It's okay, neither will I. I really don't believe that it's realistic to shop garage sales every month just to keep that silly $50.00/mo budget anyway. For years, if I may add.

For the umpteenth time, I gave garage sales as one example among many 

[Maxx2]

I asked Robert what is "Goodwill." He explained me and I told him I want to look.

I remember my ex (you can guess which one) who said she liked her "cheap store" but knowing her she liked it because she could buy some really cheap stuff and show it to her Russian friends as an example of my "cheapness". 

[Misha]

No. I'm not contradicting myself. I simply say that in my opinion that people who share the same life style and the same goals are most likely to be a happy couple.

That sums it up perfectly 

[Maxx2]

OlgaH-
 
You cannot 'quote' implications. I didn't say you 'said it', I said you implied. It is in the position and manner you took on the debate, remember? You even asked me a question about the matter which I addressed...
 
...and speaking of which, you haven't answered my question above. 

Is it possible that you are baiting dear Olga because you want to stay on Gator's good side? 

[OlgaH]

OlgaH-
 
You cannot 'quote' implications. I didn't say you 'said it', I said you implied. It is in the position and manner you took on the debate, remember? You even asked me a question about the matter which I addressed...
 

Oh, if you want use the word "implications"  in such case in my post I implied that I think it is not right to get married without love or being in love and making "the money or financial wellness of a partner" a primary base for a marriage and wait if love comes after a wedding ceremony. Personally I would never marry a man if I would not love him and he would not tell me that he loves me too,  and I can not fall in love with a man when "what I don't like about his personality" outweighs "what I do love about his personality."   

[Donna_Pedro]

Why it has to be 'for their pair of beautiful legs, or what is between legs '? May be its also something else other than legs and between legs - no?

Not everybody is capable to realize that a woman might have something else to offer to a man, besides what is between legs. People tend to judge things based on their own experience. We all do it. 
 
A friend of mine has always behaved like she is entitled to things.  It pissed a lot of people off. Men and women. Especially women.  They can’t see how come an average looking girl (and a no rocket scientist too) always had it served to her on a golden plate, while others, better looking and smarter, had to work hard for for much less. Men - even if they are smart enough to figure her out, still can not stop giving her whatever she wants.  She says -when a person truly, deeply, sincerely believes in something, it is contagious - people around start believing it too.    I am not pissed. I am envious. Compared to her I am tame.

[Donna_Pedro]

  when "what I don't like about his personality" outweighs "what I do love about his personality." 

But this surely does not have anything to do with love, does it? I mean, you dont need to be in love to figure out that a person is decent?  I can objectively evaluate person's reliability, capability, generosity, kindness.  I can figure out if we have things in common without being in love.  Love is over-rated, really. Its good if it is present, when it does not interfere with reason. Like a cherry on top of a pie. But it is a pie that matters not a cherry.
 

[OlgaH]

Why it has to be 'for their pair of beautiful legs, or what is between legs '? May be its also something else other than legs and between legs - no? Unfortunately, for men who can offer luxurious life just 'breasts-legs' arent satisfying like it used to be say 10 years ago.

Yes, of course maybe something else.

When I see the photos from so called socials where young girls in their very revealing outfits (that looks more like a working girl outfit) are rolling all over men who by their age could be not only girls' fathers but grandfathers... what else they can offer?     

[OlgaH]

But this surely does not have anything to do with love, does it? I mean, you dont need to be in love to figure out that a person is decent?  I can objectively evaluate person's reliability, capability, generosity, kindness.  I can figure out if we have things in common without being in love.  Love is over-rated, really. Its good if it is present, when it does not interfere with reason. Like a cherry on top of a pie. But it is a pie that matters not a cherry.

I wrote my understanding of love in another thread
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=14285.msg286181#msg286181

Like you "I can objectively evaluate person's reliability, capability, generosity, kindness" or whatever,  "I can figure out if we have things in common without being in love", but personally I would not leave my home and my established life and carrier and travel thousand miles away if I would not love.

[sniper]

Yes, of course maybe something else.

When I see the photos from so called socials where young girls in their very revealing outfits (that looks more like a working girl outfit) are rolling all over men who by their age could be not only girls' fathers but grandfathers... what else they can offer? 

Ok, got it. What you are describing is 'entertaiment' while I am talking about marriage. A man who has money is most likely smart and being smart he would hardly marry someone who can offer only legs-between legs whatever. Cuz he can easily get whole package - both looks and brain. Men are picky now)

[Donna_Pedro]

"I can figure out if we have things in common without being in love", but personally I would not leave my home and my established life and carrier and travel thousand miles away if I would not love.

For love I wouldnt so much as get out of bed, leave alone travelling half a world away. I tried an image of a " wife of a decembrist" at some point, but it did not sit well on me.  

[OlgaH]

Ok, got it. What you are describing is 'entertaiment' while I am talking about marriage. A man who has money is most likely smart and being smart he would hardly marry someone who can offer only legs-between legs whatever. Cuz he can easily get whole package - both looks and brain. Men are picky now)

 yeah, and these socials are also about marriage organized by marriage agencies 

"get whole package" or buy "whole package?"  Nope, not all men who has money need the girls brains. And girls with brains usually don't go after daddies and granddaddies. But of course there is an exception like a marriage between Courtney Stodden, 16, and  Doug Hutchison, 51. 

[Donna_Pedro]

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[OlgaH]

For love I wouldnt so much as get out of bed, leave alone travelling half a world away. I tried an image of a " wife of a decembrist" at some point, but it did not sit well on me.

I'm not fan of -30C either 

[OlgaH]

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[sniper]

yeah, and these socials are also about marriage organized by marriage agencies 

"get whole package" or buy "whole package?"  Nope, not all men who has money need the girls brains. And girls with brains usually don't go after daddies and granddaddies. But of course there is an exception like a marriage between Courtney Stodden, 16, and  Doug Hutchison, 51. 

There s a demand therefore theres a supply. And girls with brains chase their goals, and its just not always all this love-family stuff.
Some marry cuz they have love, some marry cuz its covenient - whats so wrong about it? Those sometimes last longer and work better. To each his own.
And why everybody is so hateful at those good looking girls? If (as you say) they just have legs (and no brains) - they still wanna make it in this life and fulfill their dreams whatever they are - so they have to use legs and their cute face.