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Author Topic: Ecli vi v trydnom cituatcii v Amerike, obrashajtec cuda. Vce konfidentcialno.  (Read 8664 times)

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Offline nygna_pomosh?

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Anglijckie bykvi i rycckie clova v tcelyax konfidentcialnocti.

Ecli vac (ili vashego rebenka) prinyditelno dergat v amerike v tcelyax:
expluatatcii  kak rabo4yu cily;
ekcplyatatcii cekcyalno;
sabrali dokymenti;
obrashautcia kak c priclygoj;
ynigaut moralno;
primenyaut fisi4eckyu cily;
nacilno prinygdaut k cekci ili lubomy drygomy bes vashego coglaciya

svonite ili pishite (vce konfidentcialno, becplatno i besopacno) po etomy e-maily :tatiana.loughman@aol.com

Pomosh predoctavleniya immigratcionnoj informatcii, poddergka, perevod, besopactnoe progivanie, meditciana, odegda, eda.

Vcex prinimaem ne savicimo ot obctoyatelctv.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 11:48:16 AM by nygna_pomosh? »

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tvat cthe vhellke?
The duty of a true patriot is to protect his country from its government. -- Thomas Paine

Offline Misha

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Do you want the translation?

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Misha, i understand you speak Russian. Well, this ad is for ladies only.  That is up to you to translate it not.

have a great day!
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 05:05:59 PM by nygna_pomosh? »

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In a nutshell, it is an ad of sorts for women who have been exploited (sexually, physically, documents taken away etc...) to contact Tatiana for help.

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it is an ad of sorts... to contact Tatiana for help.
Tatiana, in what capacity are you offering your help, if Misha is correct in his synopsis?
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Offline nygna_pomosh?

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Geez! guys!! this ad is for ladies and is confidential.

Please, give the ladies the opportunity to be safe and stop translating it.

To those who has witnessed the victims of human trafficking and wants to help:   yes, please, do contact me.

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Geez! guys!! this ad is for ladies and is confidential. Please, give the ladies the opportunity to be safe and stop translating it. To those who has witnessed the victims of human trafficking and wants to help: yes, please, do contact me.
You have not answered my question ::). I shall be more specific: does your 'help' imply some monetary consideration, i.e. a fee to you from those ladies, or is it for free?
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Please, give the ladies the opportunity to be safe and stop translating it.

How does translation reduce a lady's opportunity to be safe?

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To those who has witnessed the victims of human trafficking and wants to help:   yes, please, do contact me.

I imagine that almost every RWD male member is very much against human trafficking.  I have watched documentaries about  luring FSUW to Turkey under false pretenses and compelling them to work as prostitutes.  It is vile and abhorrent and the criminals (some of whom are women) should be thrown in jail for a long, long time.  Is this your focus?

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Geez! guys!! this ad is for ladies and is confidential.

Please, give the ladies the opportunity to be safe and stop translating it.

To those who has witnessed the victims of human trafficking and wants to help:   yes, please, do contact me.

nygna_pomosh,

Personally I would be very cautious to use such ads with no defined organization and its legality. I would say I would not use it at all. Plus there are many official organizations and institutions that can help, including simply a local police.

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You have not answered my question ::) . I shall be more specific: does your 'help' imply some monetary consideration, i.e. a fee to you from those ladies, or is it for free?

I would like to join this question.
Kaplah!

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with all due respect to all,

the ladies from former Soviet Union never call the Police themselves due to their fear of Police in general. (cultural and social differences).

The only way for them to get more information if they need help is if they saw something about it online on one of such forums. Most of the ladies don't have any access to anybody or anything. Plus a high percent of them don't even know that they are in trouble.

About my help: there is no fee, of course :-) That would be really criminal to charge in a situation like that.

I'm in criminal justice system and I simply pull the rights strings of the system if a lady tells me what is going on..If I see that there is a 100 % human trafficking case..I'm there!

« Last Edit: January 15, 2012, 06:16:03 AM by nygna_pomosh? »

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It is better do not to translate it (another question that I forgot to answer) because then I don't have to explain the purpose of the ad and have a conversation with guys instead of having a conversation with possible victims (the ladies).

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About my help: there is no fee, of course :-)
Tatiana, thank you for answering my question, which was prompted by your not volunteering much information about your laudable support effort.

As you may understand, we try to keep RWD free of people trying to make money out of their membership, unless they label themselves Commercial Members in their profiles and follow the RWD Terms of Service in their posts here.

It is better do not to translate it (another question that I forgot to answer) because then I don't have to explain the purpose of the ad and have a conversation with guys instead of having a conversation with possible victims (the ladies).
As another member pointed out, you need not fear about translations, unless you post sensitive information on this board - which, so far, you do not appear to have done.

However, you DID have 'to explain the purpose of the ad' for the above considerations ;).
Milan's "Duomo"

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well, now I know a better way to do it.
Thanks.

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Like everyone here (I hope), I abhor spousal abuse.  Fortunately, I've never witnessed it in my lifetime.  As far as I know, I've never known anyone first-hand who was involved in such an unfortunate situation.
 
But with all due respect, I do have a question.  Is this you?...
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tatianaloughman
 
If so, you are neither a lawyer nor a law enforcement officer, right?  And being a victim of alleged abuse does not make you a professional nor an expert on prosecuting abuse, does it?
 
So in case of abuse or trafficking, I'd recommend to any victims to not contact you first.  Instead, I'd recommend to anyone who is the victim of an abuse crime (or any crime) should first contact an actual attorney or law enforcement officer.  If a professional then feels that it's wise for their client to contact you, perhaps then it would be appropriate.  I'm sure, after reflection, you'd agree with me.
 
PS. Please feel free to translate my post into Russian.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 09:07:12 PM by TheTraveler »

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The Traveler, if it is her so according to the information

"During 2009-2013 she continues to pursue her Bachelors' in Criminal Justice in one of the top universities of America. She is also enrolled in National Victims Organization and is one of their members to assist victims of human trafficking. Also, she is now pursuing Police Academy to be able to get in the field by affecting crime directly and individually."

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Thanks, Olga.  How are you doing by the way?? :-)

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Tatiana, I'm doing fine. Thanks for asking. Hope you doing well too.
I think when you give such ad you should not hide the most important information and your introduction.

Have you posted your ad on the Russian speaking women forums? Форум Русских Невест и Жен?

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thanks , Olga,
well, normally I just try do not to write it in English or even in Russian (with Russian letters) because some ladies log in and don't log out and can be tracked down by their traffickers that way. So, if he sees she red "something" ...and posted "something" it is safer for her.
Yes, sure, thanks for the advise!! Such cases are not very common , but they do happen and the girls simply need someone who knows how to solve it and even how to benefit from it :-)

Well, stay safe!! glad to get to know you :-)
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 10:11:38 PM by nygna_pomosh? »

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Well, stay safe!! glad to get to know you :-)

Thank you.

With my darling husband I feel absolutely safe  :)

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I'm sure you are worth it :-)

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Such cases are not very common , but they do happen and the girls simply need someone who knows how to solve it and to even how to benefit from it :-)


Tatiana, I think the phrase "to be compensated" would sound better than "benefit from it"  :)
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 10:12:46 PM by OlgaH »

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yes, you are right :-)
in any case, thanks God and God Bless America they do have the resources for victims.

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