Is she moving too fast? wants me to call

[MoscowCalling]

Hello all!
Ive just recently registered at russiancupid, and ive encountered the usual scammers etc. But i wrote this girls, she says on her profile specifically she only want serious men, and no turks or islam...
But after just two letters, and very brief letters (i only told her about my work and what im looking for etc) she gave me her phone nr and wants me to call.
Ive just texted her and asked if i got the right phone nr, and she respond very quickly saying yes its her.
what to do? I appreciate all your responds

[jeff9556]

Call her.

Just watch out its not a scam - the one where you are actually paying $$$ per minute.

From what I could tell about 95% of RC profiles are scammers, astounding eh?

[MoscowCalling]

Yes i know, its actually terrible! i will never send any money etc but i think its a waste of time writing e-mails to a man!

Is there anyway i can check her mobile nr? Some of those numbers are extremely expensive, all they need is just to pick up the phone, it might be a good idea to use a payphone i think

[jeff9556]

One I googled a womens number and it popped up on a Russian telephone companies website as a valid number. I always assumed one of those paying numbers would have an odd prefix? Its pretty easy to find info on valid mobile numbers in Russia.

Maybe its ok as long as its not this one: http://www.russiancupid.com/en/profile/showprofile/ID/1862388?searchposition=26&searchtotal=1000

Most hilarious profile pictures I have ever seen... anyone looking for Russian doll?

[MoscowCalling]

No, its not that one!
I figured if it was one of the dodgy numbers she wouldnt text me back, but you never now i suppose. But I appreciate that she is fluent in english and dont have problems with phone calls. She also is fluent in french, it says on her profile.

But that page got a big red flag all over it, its a shame for the decent girls!

[Ade]

If you're not using Skype it's about time you started. You can sign up and pay a little then you get to call normal phones too at a fraction of the price of normal tariffs. http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/prices/ and http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/prices/call-rates/cheap-calls-to-russia

[MoscowCalling]

Great you mentioned that, ive got skype but really never thought about it. Thanks

[Gator]

Moscow Calling,
 
 
 
I hope all goes well in your pursuit of RW.
 
You asked, "What to do?"  My answer:
 
DO NOT CALL HER.
 
I say that because you are not ready for a talk with sincere RW.   You are suffering from scam paranoia.  Because you are suspicious, your dialogue will be restrained.  You will not make a good impression.  Is that what you want?
 
Why do you question this woman?
 
1.  This site is legitimate (it is a flat fee membership meeting place; it is not a pay-by-the-letter business).
2.  You wrote her.
3.  She is interested in you because she gave you her phone number.
4.  If she is a scammer, she will reveal her true intentions soon, and you will have lost nothing more than the cost of a telephone call (yet gained some experience).
 
Call her only when your mind says,  "This woman interests me and I want to know more about her life, goals, etc.   If our conversations develop positively, I may travel to her city and meet her."
 
Meeting RW requires a sense of adventure.  Do you have it?   

[MoscowCalling]

Thank you Gator!
What you say is very very true, but to be fair! How many profiles are really real out of 100 on that page?
You ask question I also ask myself, when i signed up I was more curious than serious maybe... But everyone has to start somewhere and Im planning a trip in a few months, firstly as a holiday.

She has told me her occupation, but now she texted me after i started this thread saying she is in Moscow and looking for work. So if someone responding in one-liners and  give away phone nr after two letters, and are contradicting themself it may not be scammer but maybe not the right girl for me!
Your advice are appreciated!

[Faux Pas]

When opportunity knocks, get off your ass and answer the door.

Call her, call her now. She might be a scammer or she might not. Why are you hanging out scammer sites? Call her, hear her voice and move her to Skype with a quickness. Strike while the iron is hot and whether she is a scammer or not (my guess is no, only a guess) be prepared to respond quickly to any woman. FWIW

[mendeleyev]

Good advice from both Faux and Gator. Get off the scam sites immediately.

but now she texted me after i started this thread saying she is in Moscow and looking for work. So if someone responding in one-liners and give away phone nr after two letters, and are contradicting themself it may not be scammer but maybe not the right girl for me!

One liners? Think that perhaps she has to pay for texts? Depending on her plan that may be the best method for texting. She's not a guy--you'd figure out right away in the first call.

Perhaps I missed something, but how did she contradict herself?

Think about this: Her native language is Russian. Your native language is English. Forget how much English she knows because unless she has lived in an English speaking country all she knows is how to string English together with correct grammar. English comprehension is what matters and unless she's lived in the culture of a language, no matter how correct it sounds she is not fluent.

Trust me, you will say lots of things that are misunderstood. She will too. It is because you think in your native language and English words chosen by your cultural context come out of your mouth. She thinks in Russian so when your English words reach her ears they're processed by her brain in her Russian cultural context and only then translated and understood. You do the same in reverse.

Again, discount the fact that she speaks English. It is great at times and meaningless at times. There will be many misunderstandings because of language since each of you thinks that you know what the other means when in reality you may not have a clue. I'm married and speak with experience about being clueless at times. 


Good luck! Nothing improves until you begin communicating. It is work but worth it.

[LAman]

When opportunity knocks, get off your ass and answer the door.

Call her, call her now. She might be a scammer or she might not. Why are you hanging out scammer sites? Call her, hear her voice and move her to Skype with a quickness. Strike while the iron is hot and whether she is a scammer or not (my guess is no, only a guess) be prepared to respond quickly to any woman. FWIW

FP...why do you think she is not a scammer????
What if this was a PPL, would only that change your opinion?

[Donna_Pedro]

I say that because you are not ready for a talk with sincere RW.   You are suffering from scam paranoia. 

Exactly. A girl has not asked for anything yet.. its just a phone conversation, not a request to mail a $1mil.

[ghost of moon goddess]

Think about this: Her native language is Russian. Your native language is English. Forget how much English she knows because unless she has lived in an English speaking country all she knows is how to string English together with correct grammar. English comprehension is what matters and unless she's lived in the culture of a language, no matter how correct it sounds she is not fluent.

Also, consider the vast varieties of spoken English  dialects and accents with some being very hard to understand 
I recall a man from Texas who mumbled and slurred words when giving his presentation to an audience of non-native English speakers.    I was not the only one who found it absolutely impossible to understand him, I have to say. 
I know some native English speakers who have been throughout the world, they confirmed  that sometimes when talking to native English speakers with very «thick local» accents sound, they often had to keep having them repeat what they said, and often  still couldn't understand what they said.
So, native English speakers, work on getting rid of your cool local accents when speaking with RW in English.   

[jeff9556]

I know some native English speakers who have been throughout the world, they confirmed  that sometimes when talking to native English speakers with very «thick local» accents sound, they often had to keep having them repeat what they said, and often  still couldn't understand what they said.
So, native English speakers, work on getting rid of your cool local accents when speaking with RW in English.   

Yes, very true! I had to get rid of my accent when I moved to Europe, and change the words I used also, such as removing any slang. I also have to avoid using big words.

Its quite funny that I can fully understand most Indian's and Africans speaking English, but go to Northern Ireland or Scotland and blimey heck its hard to understand!

[Faux Pas]

FP...why do you think she is not a scammer????
What if this was a PPL, would only that change your opinion?

I don't know either way. Nothing in his first few posts indicate she is. Mind you, I've been out of the game so may be the rules have changed. I know nothing about the site he contacted her on but, their quick response to each other through the site and her request to speak on the phone quickly, I see as a positive sign of a sincere woman. Although, I agree with Gator in that he might not be ready. No matter, the woman is and he needs to put on the big boy panties and get in the game, build the fire or quit striking the matches 

[JR]

Hello all!
Ive just recently registered at russiancupid, and ive encountered the usual scammers etc. But i wrote this girls, she says on her profile specifically she only want serious men, and no turks or islam...
But after just two letters, and very brief letters (i only told her about my work and what im looking for etc) she gave me her phone nr and wants me to call.
Ive just texted her and asked if i got the right phone nr, and she respond very quickly saying yes its her.
what to do? I appreciate all your responds

Oh Boy!!!! Go find a nice sand box to play in cuz you're definately NOT ready for this playground.
Go to nobel.com, get a $20 calling card that costs two cents a minute and call already....or don't because you'll probably just blow it with paranoia.

[Doll]

Hello all!
Ive just recently registered at russiancupid, and ive encountered the usual scammers etc. But i wrote this girls, she says on her profile specifically she only want serious men, and no turks or islam...
But after just two letters, and very brief letters (i only told her about my work and what im looking for etc) she gave me her phone nr and wants me to call.
Ive just texted her and asked if i got the right phone nr, and she respond very quickly saying yes its her.
what to do? I appreciate all your responds

J. and I exchanged phone number and talked on the phone 30 min after I got his "introductory" letter. J. is my husband of 10 years.

[ML]

J. and I exchanged phone number and talked on the phone 30 min after I got his "introductory" letter. J. is my husband of 10 years.

Making phone contact so early in the relationship is sort of risky, and probably nothing good will come of it.  So probably in your 11th year, things will start to fall apart. 

[Faux Pas]

Making phone contact so early in the relationship is sort of risky, and probably nothing good will come of it.  So probably in your 11th year, things will start to fall apart. 

Risky? How so? Isn't the idea to actually meet as well as get away from the agencies and intro sites as soon as possible?What could be better than making immediate contact and get the ball rolling? Get the show on the road. Whats a more appropriate time frame before the "risk" declines? 

Please tell me you were being facetious with that post?

[celluloidheros]

Risky? How so? Isn't the idea to actually meet as well as get away from the agencies and intro sites as soon as possible?What could be better than making immediate contact and get the ball rolling? Get the show on the road. Whats a more appropriate time frame before the "risk" declines? 

Please tell me you were being facetious with that post?

That's the problem with text vs speaking, you can't tell when people are joking. 

[ghost of moon goddess]

Making phone contact so early in the relationship is sort of risky, and probably nothing good will come of it.  So probably in your 11th year, things will start to fall apart. 

"British" irony, I guess

[Gator]

 

"British" irony, I guess

Please tell me you were being facetious with that post?

ML's humor is such that you can not tell when he is joking.  Hint, it is always irony if not sarcasm.  And usually there is a clue.  In this case:

  So probably in your 11th year, things will start to fall apart.     

I suggest that ML use the  or    instead of  .  But that is his prerogative.  Sometimes he skirts around my radar too.

[Doll]

Making phone contact so early in the relationship is sort of risky, and probably nothing good will come of it.  So probably in your 11th year, things will start to fall apart. 

OMG! Why risky? What can "come" from it?
Ah, you are joking! Did not get it 

[GQBlues]

Is she moving to fast? wants me to call

Yeah...you should call her and let her know that if she just wants 'to fast', she really doesn't have to 'move' anywhere. Certainly, this information doesn't require a phone call from you to get your opinion on the matter. You can just send her a SMS, or even an email.
 
RWs, allegedly, are all slim to begin with, so why is she fasting? Religious or political reason? If political, is this part of the recent protest from the election?
 
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