Why did you leave Canada?

[Rvrwind]

 class=leadtitleSupreme court to rule on daggers
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 class=webpostedWeb Posted: 3/1/2006 5:19:26 PM

 
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A long-running case that pits religious freedom against public safety is about to come to a head at the Supreme Court of Canada.

The court, in a judgment likely to resonate across the country, is set to rule Thursday on whether a Montreal school board was justified in barring a Sikh student from carrying a ceremonial dagger to class.

The issue has been argued before at local and provincial levels but the top court has never offered an opinion on the matter.

The Montreal dispute centres on Gurbaj Singh Multani, who first wore the dagger known as a kirpan, to class at age 12 in 2001. School officials initially tried to work out a compromise that would allow him to continue wearing the kirpan, a religious requirement for orthodox Sikh males, but impose some restrictions for the sake of safety.


The governing council of the Margueriite-Bourgeoys school board overruled that approach and imposed a total ban. In their view, the kirpan violated a student conduct code that prohibited the carrying of ``weapons and angerous objects.''


During a Supreme Court hearing last April, Julius Grey, the lawyer for the Multani family, noted that schools in other provinces have allowed the wearing of kirpans and there has never been a case in which one was used to stab a student.

Other jurisdictions, including school districts in British Columbia, Alberta and Ontario, have solved the problem with compromises of the kind that failed in Montreal. They permit kirpans but impose various restrictions most often a limit on their size or a requirement that they be worn out of
sight. The different precedents have produced a patchwork of policies
across the country something that's true not only in schools but
in other public institutions.


It's all right, for example, for Sikh MPs to wear kirpans in the House of Commons and for visitors to wear them in the public galleries. It's also all right to wear kirpans in the Supreme Court of Canada. But trial judges in some provinces have banned them from their courtrooms.


Most airlines once routinely allowed passengers to wear kirpans with blades no longer than 10 centimetres. In the security crackdown that followed the 9-11 terrorist attacks however, Transport Canada imposed a total ban on all ``knives or knife-like objects,'' including religious ones.


Thursday's ruling will focus specifically on the school environment. It's possible, though not certain, that the legal principles could have repercussions in other areas.


I was gonna go on a rant here but why bother. The pussy whipped pork barrel bottom feeders that destroyed everything I ever loved about Canada won't likely read it anyway. Russia may have its faults, but at least here they don't kiss the a** of every immigrant that steps off the plane & if that immigrant don't like the rules, tough, then don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out!!!

I am very seriously considering Russian citizenship & telling the lowlifes in Canada they can have the F***ing place!!!:X

RVR

[Ste]

I hear ya, RVR, I always thought myself as tolerant but now I hold my hand up and say yeah, I don't want these people in my country.

So I am a rascist.

Or am i? I don't mind anyone coming here and integrating and learning the language and culture and no problem with them keeping there's so long as they remember they are in a foriegn (to them) culture.

But it's not like that, it's more fuk you I'm gonna ram my beliefs down your throat and quote my rights if you object....

Fuk me what has gone wrong?

That's why I love having my Russian woman here with me, she knocks all this PC/rascist shite out of me. She does this trick with her tongue (no, not THAT one!) where she does 'negro lips - look it's funny!' and at first i'm thinking Christ no, any police about, shit we're for it, arrestable offence here now, but then I think no, fuk it, it's funny, not THAt offensive cos there is no malice in it at all, just observation....

My best friend always tells me some quote from some non-PC visionary that once ur immigrant community has reached 30%, you've lost control......

And Uk is well past 30%.....

I love Russia cos you can call a Spade and Spade, in all of it;s meanings and I mean no offence, it just seems the whole world's ethnic minorities got extremely thin skins...

Ste

[catzenmouse]

This is great news! Now when I have to go to deal with my  boss/court/USCIS I can bring my AK-47 (for religous reasons of course)  to the meeting. Of course there will be no problem. I would NEVER think  of using it on those wonderful SoBs that have put us through all these  problems. Yeah, that's my reasoning, yeah!

 Ken

[Rvrwind]

Ken... I was thinkin' that very thing when I read this trash.

Afterall, I have yet to hear of a gun killing anybody. I've heard of people using guns to kill people but without the people the gun is harmless.

I recall one time my son damn near got thrown in jail for taking a penknife to school, a 1 & a half inch blade. Now these radicle bastards are going to be carry 8 inch blades. Sweet, nothing like taking away the weapons from white folks & arming the enemy, great way to take over a country, immigrate, change the rules to suit you & those who built the place originally will leave or when they go to war with our home country we can rise up & stab them in the back!!!. Sweet gig they got going on.

I got no problem with folks moving to my country but I was of the opinion they were moving there because they didn't like where they came from. If that is the case why in hell are they so damn adament about changing my country into exactly what they left, if they don't like it the way it is, the way it has been for us real Canadians, then don't friggin' move there!!! Seems like a no brainer to me. But then again I'm just a taxpayer not a bottom feeder in the government. And the Supreme Court!!! How did these pathetic idiots ever get into such a position, I have yet to see them make a decision that is common sense to most people.

I'm so sick of the government trying to kiss everybodies behinds instead of standing up & being real men & telling it the way it should be. They just legalized gay marriages as well, ain't that a kicker now the gays get chidcare & can adopt children & collect child tax credits & family allowance payments. My God it makes me wanna puke. I ain't a religous man by any stretch of the imagination but I will say this, if there is a God I guarrantee he is just shakin' head thinkin' "What has man done to my Eden!!!"

Well like my old tag line says-Dyin' is easy, its livin' thats hard!!!

Soddom & Gamora was destroyed for the same evils that are perpetuated a hundred fold in todays society. It can't & won't go on forever & you know what, we did it to ourselves!!!

RVR

[Bruno]

I got no problem with folks moving to my country but I was of the opinion they were moving there because they didn't like where they came from. If that is the case why in hell are they so damn adament about changing my country into exactly what they left, if they don't like it the way it is, the way it has been for us real Canadians, then don't friggin' move there!!!

From my personal experience with refugees ( or illegal ) who ask the asylum here, more that 50% are coming not because they like our country but because they are not more welcome in own country...

Several will be send to jail if they are back to own country because they are thief, desertor, criminal, terrorist, hurt or rape or kill someone, have debt,etc ...

New immigrant because of marriage are usualy good integrated but the bad people stay bad... they don't change because of a new country...

By example, the president of the arab group in Belgium is a old terrorist... unfortunaly, this was discover after he receive the Belgium nationality... several month ago, he have try to force the arab language to be a national language in Belgium... a chance, the european law protect me... they protect the minority... and since Belgium people become a minority in own country, it is good for me...

I am for equal right AND duty... but what to think about positive discrimination... when state publish offert of work only in newspaper using Arab language, give priority for job to foreign people... this is not equal right, they have more right that own citizen...

Take a look at the prostitution or drugs business... foreign people are in control... FSU or Arab one...

These who know me can say that i am not racist but i wish protect my language and culture... Belgium is my home, the foreign people are guest only and i wish stay master of my own home...

[Ste]

I got no problem with folks moving to my country but I was of the opinion they were moving there because they didn't like where they came from. If that is the case why in hell are they so damn adament about changing my country into exactly what they left, if they don't like it the way it is, the way it has been for us real Canadians, then don't friggin' move there!!!

From my personal experience with refugees ( or illegal ) who ask the asylum here, more that 50% are coming not because they like our country but because they are not more welcome in own country...[/quote]

I go farther than that Bruno and say they claim asylum here on the flimsiest of excuses. My brother is a Social Worker and deals with Asylum seekers and the tales he tells. Not all the same of course, he has this Kurdish Shepherd boy he tells me about, the kid has had a hard time but more importantly seeks to integrate. Some of the others tho, inc one Eastern European (Russian he thinks) claiming asylum cos he doesn't want to go in the army and belives his life would be in danger. Also he has folks here on asylum becuase of 'persecution' because they are gay/lesbian/bi/devil worshippers.

Christ, can I come to America, and claim asylum cos the guy next door is oppressing me because I'm tall, making tallist remarks......

And in our local ASDA (now Walmart) you see them, trollies loaded with booze.....

And in UK you get to stay here while your asylum claim is assessed, while it's being appealed against and if you can keep that up for 14 years, you get to stay permanently.

And, rant, rant! These people get university fees for free or at home rates (can't remember), while me and Nadia have to pay international fees seven times higher!

Ste

[mistermopar]

Hey RVR,I feel the same way about the country and the gov. here.

Sure give all the immigrants rights to what ever they want,but if you are an English speaking white Canadian male,you have nothing.

Still looking for a way to my paradice.....Russia.

Randy

[LatinSwede]

They sure won't be tolerant to you if you go their country.  I remember growing up in Europe, at first feeling sorry for the Turks and Morocans.  After a good while of being out and about in the city, I slowy changed my tune.  I saw them on the street selling drugs, breaking into cars, and shouting obscenities at the Dutch women.  I was talking to my friend saying "they do crap like that, and then they whine about the local people hating them".  They've already turned parts of respectable European cities into their own 3rd world slums.  I detest biggotry, but I also find the other end, "I'm sorry I'm a white male" just as nausiating. 

[Son of Clyde]

To lighten things up a bit read this story.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5950304/

I am a firm believer that when you relocate to another country you should adapt to the culture of that country. I see Arab's in the US wearing turbans in sub zero temperatures. It may be a custom, to wear the turban, or they are worn because of the extreme heat in the desert or maybe to protect long hair. I know there is a reason and it may be religious in nature. If you have relocated to the US or Canada why not act like a North American?

[Rvrwind]

Hi Randy, I see you found your way to RWD, Welcome!!!!

Clyde, you are missing my point here my friend.

I don't give too hoots what they wear. They can run around in diapers for all I care, they can build there sinogogues or mosques or whatever, I don't give a rats a**!!!

What I do care about is that many of them don't learn the language by choice, especially the orientals. That they try to change & do change many of the traditions of my country to suit them, instead of obseving ours or leaving them alone especially the east indians. What I also care about is old folks coming over & getting an Old Age Pension having never paid one single penny into the pension fund & then I as a up & coming pensioner am told I likely will not recieve it because there is no money left in the fund. What I also care about is organizations like Edmonton Transit, who I worked for for years, having to lower the entrance standards of employment to allow these people to work there as they couldn't pass the entrance requirements of those of us who worked there before them had to pass. By lowering the criteria for enterance to allow these people to pass examinations they in effect put the public at risk as now they hire people to drive city bus who are essentialy unqualified to do so. What I do care about is some dumba** bureaucrate coming into my buisness & telling me I have to have 25% of minorities working in my buisness even if they are underqualified & don't speak fluent English. (This did happen to me) What I also care about is that the rules for them are less stringent than the rules for me because I am white. I also get very pissed when I am told to my face in a courtroom by a so-called judge, that I cannot be descriminated against, because I am white, when I just lost a job I loved because they changed the qualification to a Native only position. How be it I advertise my jobs as a white only position. How long do you think it would take them to sue me & throw my butt in jail???

These people can come all they want, I have no problem with that. But if they are going to come they should, learn the language, accept the country & traditions that are, as is, not do their damndest to chage my country into theirs by lobbying a pussy whipped government to change the rules to suit them, any job they apply for they should have to be required to pass the same criteria as I or any other white man. If they don't like these rules they are free to leave but why should I & my fellow countrymen lower our standards to their level is beyond my comprehension. These standards were set for a reason, to protect the public & get the best people in the job position. By lowering those standards to accomodate these people we have in effect in my opinion degraded the work force in our country & compromised our values as a nation once proud & strong we are now weak & ambivlient & it simply makes me gag the stupidity of the leaders of that once proud nation.

All I want is a fair playing field. They should be required to live by & accept the same rules everybody else in Canada has lived under for over 100 years. If not then they should be told flat out to get the f**k out!!!

Sir John A. McDonald is rolling over in his grave!!!

RVR

[mistermopar]

Thanks RVR,ya I found my way here finally.

I really don't like the way the Gov. and RCMP aloud some of the imagrants that got a job with the RCMP to wear there turbins instead of the RCMP hats.

I think it is wrong,there was a dress code,why did they have to change it for these people.

Makes me

Randy

[Rvrwind]

Yeah Randy, couldn't agree more!!

I got in deep doggy doo doo in BC (British Columbia for non Canucks) because a Siek Cop tried to pull me over for speeding & I refused to stop. When I finally pulled over it was for a white cop in full uniform. When I went to court & the Judge, another idiot I thought at the time, asked me why I refused to stop for the first cop I said simply because he didn't look like a cop to me. I'm from backwater Alberta Sir & where I come from that ain't no RCMP uniform & I thought he might be a terrorist or somethin'. Well the judge to my amazement agreed with me & threw the case out & I walked. I think if more people would have had the balls do do what I did you soon would have seen them having to wear the traditional uniform or work elsewhere.

Thats the biggest problem with Canadians in my mind. They don't have the balls to stand up & be counted. They sit in their kitchens, living rooms or around the BBQ & bitch a blue streak, but when it comes down to puttin' up or shutin' up, most choose the latter. I am only one man, but believe me when I say I have made some ripples in my time & made some very important & powerful people very nervous. I believe in what I believe & I will fight for that belief no matter the cost & thats what most Canadians lack, they are all so candy a**ed & pussy whipped that they are afraid to say anything. I am not & it has cost me dearly at times but you know what? I wouldn't have it any other way. My country may bend over & take all this crap & many of its citizens may, but I won't & never will.

Even my Mother is so paranoid she often cautions me to watch what I say & write, even over the internet, because Big Brother is watching. Well my only answer to that is, he may be watching but he ain't learnin' a f**king thing , else we wouldn't be in the stuation we are in!!! I've always been rather outspoken & a bit of an activist but I'll be damned if I'll let some mamby pamby political nitwit ruin my home & my country without saying or doing something in retaliation!!!

I AM CANADIAN, A REAL CANADIAN!!!!!

Free, white & over 21 & I will make no apologies or excuses to anyone for that!!!

RVR

[mistermopar]

Well said RVR,very well said.I don't think I can top that.

Randy

[catzenmouse]

Rvr,

 There you go again, holding back on your feelings! :D:D C'mon now, tell us what you REALLY think!

Ken

[Ste]

RVR aka Buster (nother) Bloodvessel!!

Ste

[Ste]

I went into my Town Centre yesterday for Nadia's birthday present and International bloody woman's day present and now I'm depressed.

It's full of bhurka-clad females large and small, pissheads stumbling from pub to pub and mongs everywhere, ie people of no fixed intellect.

My mind wandered off to Chelyabinsk, vibrant, real folks on the street, sth happening, sth being built instead of demolished......

I'm not staying in this country, let the immigrants have it.

Oh, and old biddies driving tiny cars at a breakneck 20mph, WINDS ME UP!!!

Ste

Not my Town but another Nothern Shithole...

[Ste]

I went into my Town Centre yesterday for Nadia's birthday present and International bloody woman's day present and now I'm depressed.

It's full of bhurka-clad females large and small, pissheads stumbling from pub to pub and mongs everywhere, ie people of no fixed intellect.

My mind wandered off to Chelyabinsk, vibrant, real folks on the street, sth happening, sth being built instead of demolished......

I'm not staying in this country, let the immigrants have it.

Oh, and old biddies driving tiny cars at a breakneck 20mph, WINDS ME UP!!!

Ste

Not my Town but another Northern shiitehole...

[mistermopar]

Ste,where is this place in the photo.

I have a few boat loads I could send from Canada...lol

Randy

[Ste]

Sheffield, South Yorks!

The only people we hate more than the immigrants is the fecking People's Front of South Yorkshire....

SPLITTERS!!!

Ste

[Bruce]

Rver - I like your spunk!  Great story about the towelhead cop.  Any time I voice my two cents the thread gets pulled.  I thought the political stuff was verboten these days anyway.   

The live and let live philosophy as well as always trying to do the right thing has worked well for me.  It keeps my blood pressure down as well.

[Ste]

Rver - I like your spunk!

Sorry BC but check out all but No.1 on the list on this page....

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spunk

Gaylord!!!

Ste

[Bruce]

Ok, sorry for another coloquial language error.  Replace spunk with gusto please.

[mistermopar]

LMAO...to funny guys,couldn't stop laughing.....

[acrzybear]

Ste

I could swear that photo was taken in the U.S, California in particular:P

[Rvrwind]

Steve...I can only assume you drive poor Nadia nuts!!!!!

Where do you find these links, I laughed my a** off over that one!!!

Bruce...Call it what you will, I call it fed up to the ears with all the PC bu!!shit!!!

Okay, so I'm a radical, & proud of it!!!:D:P

RVR