scammed by yeva4u

[bruttus]

hi

sorry for mine bad english, not mine native languange
i joined up, becouse i was recently beiing scammed, not by 1, but by 2 girls, and theyre agent, and i want to warn allot of people how they work now
first of all, i was a member for almost 2y, and i met this girl, id 14925255 marina sherbak(if you have an account in yeva4u), and i was correspondencing with here, with letters. after a week or so, she asked to see me, true videochat, what i did. ofcourse, it was expencive, but i thought that atleast that she was not a playing with me. after that videochat, here friend was there also id 15866920 elizaveta oyarand, and she was asking to communicate with me also, what i stuppid enough did.
well, after a whille i desided to comme to ukraine, to meet them in reall life, and they where wayting for me
so, well, it was atleast no scam i thought, they where here, and both spended time with me

so i came for the second time to there, and i met more friends of marina sherbak, id 14939481 mar'yana motuz
i rented an appartment for 70 usd for 3 weeks, becouse well marina told me, it was closer to here school, and work, so she could sleep aslong if i was there
well, i can you tell you this, that was 1 of the many promises that she made, but doiing it, was something else

now, to make a long story short, they play it smartthis is the tricky part of it
marina sherbak id 14925255, she go only out with you to expencive restaurants, she is never allone, whille she speaks perfectly english, she is telling to you that she has no money, but she will not accept it, but gues again, she plays on the feelings, like she has no money for internet, so you sent it to here, just out of pitty
here friend, who you have meet there also id 14939481 elizaveta oyarand, wants to communicate with you also, becouse you are dating with here best friend,so you are here friend also, and etc....
elizaveta,oyarand, she play's further on the feelings, a week, before i come to ukraine, to celebrate mine b-day with them (for the 3th time, so stuppid i was, that i didn't had tru) she came online, after a sillence of 2 months, on that site, and asked to see me, becouse she misses me, and etc.... after a couple letters and a videochat, i lost more money, becouse she wanted to come to mine place, and wanted to be with me, and all that other crap, and i believed here, but when i was telling to here, she was crying (something what ukrainian girls are good in) and telling that she needed the money before tuesday the 28th, whille i was coming the 29th. asking to here, if it was not posible to do it together, but again she needed it before that day, or she loose here papers.
i sended that money, not knowing that the money was ment to go to a bustrip to italie, instead to come to mine country.
aslong i was there, they played the game so good, that i didn't know what kind of act it was
id 14925255 and id 15866920 played that game so good, you don't know that they are using you

annyway, i wrote an entire story on this site http://www.antiscam.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1486, so check it if you wants

but what has yeva has to do, well, when i was complaining about it, i was ignored, and then beiing laughed out, telling that they only forward the letter to the girls agent (who is actually the leading scammer, he has his own girlfriend on the site. site name anna, reall name anyuta dyakova id 14925245)
and that was here answer
""Our agency is located in Saint Petersburg and I carry no responsibility for the girls from Zaporozhye agencies""
now i know that id 14925245 is the girlfriend, well, log in as member from vkontakt, search the name who you met, and you won't believe youre own eyes, they believe that they are safe, and no1 knows them, so they are putting theyre photo's from theyre boyfriends up

so annyway, the girls are reall, if you see the videochatsign, but i doubt that they are serieus

[tfcrew]

i rented an appartment for 70 usd for 3 weeks

That's pretty good rates.

[ECOCKS]

Excellent rates.

Get that girl's number and ID for future bookings.

[SANDRO43]

Hello Bruttus, a pity you did not join us BEFORE experiencing the delights of yeva4u, their 'business model' has been known to us and reported here since 2006 (http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=1528.msg85255#msg85255).

You could have saved a lot of money .

[ML]

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[Faux Pas]

I suspect he means per night.
   

What was your first clue? 

[ECOCKS]

You think?

[bruttus]

sorry, it was 70 usd a day, so it was something around 1200usd, for the entire 3 weeks
apartment was good, but neigberhood was difrent

and yes i had to know, but i believed them completly
what i already know, is that they have an ability, when you notice some things, that they denie it and blaime it on you, becouse you are then jealous and etc.....

[Mila]

Hello bruttus,
I am sorry to hear that. It was so evident from the very beginning that girl was a scam. How could you believe all that stories and sent money for so many times? It sounds so silly. Now, I hope, you will be more experienced and not so naive. Good luck!

[bruttus]

well, marina sherbak (id 14925255) didn't asked money, she played it smart, so you couldn't say that she is a scammer, and she knew it
and the fact, that i forgot mine wallet in the taxi, and that she brought it back, with all mine money in it (that was the factor that i believed here)

now, i found out that she has a boyfriend, all here friends that i have met, have a boyfriend, and still they are all active on that site, and i know everyday more and more about them

[Patagonie]

What was your intimacy with these women ? This is the clue ?

[bruttus]

that was the weirdest one
if i was allone with marina sherbak id 14925255, she was icecold
but when there where others, she was hanging on me
but i think that i was the biggest idiot, i never try't to kiss here, never try't to touch here,

if that is what you mean

[Patagonie]

that was the weirdest one
if i was allone with marina sherbak id 14925255, she was icecold
but when there where others, she was hanging on me
but i think that i was the biggest idiot, i never try't to kiss here, never try't to touch here,

if that is what you mean

Professional daters will touch you rarely, but enough to low your defence.
You had had any INTIMACY with this women, so the gold rule is no personal expense for them, NOT sending money for any reason, and little gift (welcome gift maximum).
Relations in FSU are like in local city : and if an FSU likes you she will be more direct and more "INTO" you , more close to you than a AW one, remind this advice.

If after few dates a girl don't like to be beside you, close to you (physically) and if she is reluctant to be touched by you, and more if she don't touch you BAIL OUT and NEXT. If she begins to say i'm shy, be shy with your money also.

tell her "you are greedy in relationship, so is my wallet when it's time to open."

[bruttus]

well, i thought becouse of the culturedifrence that she didn't wanted that i touched here
but i was already realising things , but mine guard whent completly down, after i was invited to eat with here parents
the only thing what i noticed, was that the father was showing things from here personal live and that the mother was like the daughter (icecold, but that was maybe the fact that she was a teacher)
so i have no the impression, that the father don't know nothing, otherwise he don't show me photo's from marina when she was litle, or other things, and the mother knew it from in the beginning everything what here daughter did

i'm not saying that i was hopeles to meet a girl in a foreing country, but i am never been so humiliated like now, and i really hope, that those girls are beiing cought, or noticed as scammers, everywhere they go
looks a bit childish, but that is what i wants as a sort of justice, becouse no autorities can do something against this

ow, before i forget, when i was there for a other girl, the 3th time that i visit that country, she lived in the same city, but difrent agency, marina sherbak, was competing with that girl, more directer, and came all of here promises that she had made, when i was there for the 3 weeks for marina, she did it, exept the sleepingpart

[ECOCKS]

sorry, it was 70 usd a day, so it was something around 1200usd, for the entire 3 weeks
apartment was good, but neigberhood was difrent

and yes i had to know, but i believed them completly
what i already know, is that they have an ability, when you notice some things, that they denie it and blaime it on you, becouse you are then jealous and etc.....

That lesson, in the long-term, may well be worth the $1200 right there.

[bruttus]

its an expencive lesson, lost more then that allone
i really hope that sites like that are beiing investigated, and shut down


atm, i feel sutch a dumbass, becouse it is for me the first time that i'm beiing scammed
 i feel humiliated and used, becouse of this

[Faux Pas]

its an expencive lesson, lost more then that allone
i really hope that sites like that are beiing investigated, and shut down


atm, i feel sutch a dumbass, becouse it is for me the first time that i'm beiing scammed
 i feel humiliated and used, becouse of this

Investigated and shutdown by whom? Nobody can save a man from himself. All of the men scammed by these ladies wantonly and willing were led to slaughter. Man up, suck it up and move on. You got bitten by vipers playing on your emotions. Nobody to blame but yourself. Arm yourself with information. If it is too good to be true, it is. And stay out of the viper dens.

Nothing to be ashamed of. There is an industry built on bilking men out of their money. There have been millions before you. Live and learn

[ECOCKS]

Never send money to someone you haven't met.

If you don't there can be no financial scam, only an emotional one.

People will chime in that sometimes it is okay to do so but many agree with this rule.

Want to take risks? Is the reward that great?

Another good rule to remember, there is NO REAL RELATIONSHIP until you meet face-to-face. Again, some will tell you that they were exceptions but use your common sense and act accordingly.

Best of luck!

[SANDRO43]

i really hope that sites like that are beiing investigated, and shut down

By whom ?

Their address is St. Petersburg, Marata 57: years ago I wrote to a couple of St. Petersburg newspapers offering details of Yeva4u's fraudulent tactics: I received no reply/acknowledgment.

Their Domain Name Yeva-4u.com.ua shows as Registrant: "Internet Invest" Ltd, Gaidara St. 50,  01033 KYIV.

A year or two ago they added this to the bottom of their pages:

operating company for yeva-4u.com.ua - CAPORES LIMITED, LARNAKA, CYPRUS, 7600

Thus you have at least 3 countries involved: Russia, Ukraine and Cyprus .

[ML]

Investigated and shutdown by whom? Nobody can save a man from himself. All of the men scammed by these ladies wantonly and willing were led to slaughter. Man up, suck it up and move on. You got bitten by vipers playing on your emotions. Nobody to blame but yourself.

True, but  a little harsh.

We are all creatures of our upbringing.

Some have been raised in middle to upper class homes where there is  no exposure to the seamy  side of life.  These people are surrounded by good people at home, neighbors, friends, work associates, etc.  They  are not prepared for scammers and the like.

Others have had a rough and tumble childhood, and have become 'street smart' at an early age out of necessity in order to survive.  Those raised in this environment will likely not be taken by scammers.

[ECOCKS]

The lesson may be harsh but the statement as to being accountable to oneself seems fair to me.

[Faux Pas]

True, but  a little harsh.

We are all creatures of our upbringing.

Some have been raised in middle to upper class homes where there is  no exposure to the seamy  side of life.  These people are surrounded by good people at home, neighbors, friends, work associates, etc.  They  are not prepared for scammers and the like.

Others have had a rough and tumble childhood, and have become 'street smart' at an early age out of necessity in order to survive.  Those raised in this environment will likely not be taken by scammers.

Nah, I don't buy it. Shielded or not, every man that is going to sign up with an agency, or even enter into the local dating scene needs to put on the Big Boy panties and assume the responsibilities of his own actions or lack of. No excuses. If one gets taken advantage of, at the end of the day, it is their own fault unless of course someone put a gun to their head.

There is nothing to investigate. Girl says send me money, send agency money. Man sends money, who has committed a crime?

[mies]

sorry, it was 70 usd a day, so it was something around 1200usd, for the entire 3 weeks
apartment was good, but neigberhood was difrent

and yes i had to know, but i believed them completly
what i already know, is that they have an ability, when you notice some things, that they denie it and blaime it on you, becouse you are then jealous and etc.....

Bruttus, I don't know what you complain about. 70$ per night for good apartment - is a normal price in large cities in Ukraine. Hotels won't be much cheaper, likely hotels will be more expensive.
 
As for your "scam story":
1) even if you pay for a woman in the restaurant on a date, does not mean she now owes you anything (sex, marriage, or anything else).
2) you are "dating" one girl, and agree to invite her female friend to visit you? Whom exactly you were dating? I am a woman, my term for this is: player and cheater. As such - any prior promises to you are off. You didn't pass the fidelity test.
 
If you want to save money on trips - date locally. That's the only advice I have for you. And stop seeing privately female friends of your girlfriend.

[Vasilisa]

Bruttus, to make it short, just leave all this international dating thing, it will save you a lot more time and money than what you have already wasted.

To make it longer: if the woman got used to having dinners on a regular basis  in  restaurants that you'd call expensive and unaffordable for you I' say stop right now because she needs a rich alpha male and not you. As I understand you are not into "grey mice" but into ric and beautiful ladies. So you have 2 options: start looking for "poor family-oriented grey mice" or just get out of this thing. I thought you would not want  to have grey mice though, so the dating process for you can be more like dating another pretty lady and further  complaints about how much money you've lost.

[BC]

Bruttus, to make it short, just leave all this international dating thing, it will save you a lot more time and money than what you have already wasted.

Prudent advice.

Once one hits the 'antiscam' network with complaints I only can wonder about the motivation.