I'll give you guys some feedback based on what I experienced in russia

[Konfushus]

To Eduard:

In the other thread you asked why I would recommend to guys "don't do it". You say it here best.

"I grew up with these women and I can tell a wholesome woman with good values and morals from a woman who is not to be trusted."

You can. A perceptive guy living here can. Most guys out there looking for a Russian wife can't and as you said are playing with fire.

[OlgaH]

So don't assume that if a woman goes to church and believes in God she will be a faithful and honest wife to you. You've got to know what you are doing!

How a Russian saying goes? не согрешишь - не покаешься?     

[Eduard]

How a Russian saying goes? не согрешишь - не покаешься? 

LOL! 

[Eduard]

To Eduard:

In the other thread you asked why I would recommend to guys "don't do it". You say it here best.

"I grew up with these women and I can tell a wholesome woman with good values and morals from a woman who is not to be trusted."

You can. A perceptive guy living here can. Most guys out there looking for a Russian wife can't and as you said are playing with fire.

  you know it, I know it, RW here on the forum know it, but watch some "know it alls WM" come and attack me now and say that I'm just being a "used car salesman".

[JohnDearGreen]

AB, I hope that the treatment you found there was helpful. Tyumen is a bit out of the way for complex medical services and most local residents would be chaffing for the opportunity to travel to more sophisticated medical centres but that is not always how the current Russian medical system works. But if you were able to find the treatment you needed there, God bless you and I hope it was helpful.

Tyumen has a leading neurosurgery center, one of the best in Russia:
http://www.rusbiznews.com/news/n113.html

[Konfushus]

To Misha:

No one here, or anywhere else can make valid claims about "most women". I can't say most women anywhere cheat or not. I can say enough women cheat in the US that there are "dating" sites specifically for cheating women and there are enough in Russia, especially gravitating to bride agencies, that guys here should be made aware of it.

It's good to know what's out there. Even if it doesn't fit your personal experiences, it might fit those of other guys reading here.

[Gator]

As others have advised you, don't get discouraged by a few old timers that challenge you on everything.  ....These same guys that claim to be "happily married" seem to have nothing better to do than read and post on forums all day. 

Doug, 
 
Until you have a RW wife, you will not understand.  Please, let me explain.
 
RW wives who do not work but stay at home are perfect.  They slave around the house all day; there is nothing for the man to do but relax.  When the man comes home from his job, she turns all of her attention on him, serving his every wish and whim.  Serving her man is fatiguing so she must take a nap.  That is when the husbands meet at RWD.   
 
At RWD the husbands share stories in a secret sub-forum about how their wives pamper them.  RW are constantly creating new ways to pamper their men.  Upon  learning of something new that Natasha did for Bill, the other husbands tell their wives about it.  Each wife tries the new method, endeavoring to be better at it than Natasha.
 
So why do the husbands challenge AmericanBoy?  The husbands do not want the world to know that RW  are  eager, compliant, and sexual.  This knowledge would attract many new men.  The husbands do not want competition when they return to the FSU to find replacements for wives upon their 30th birthday.   
 
 

[Eduard]

To Eduard:

In the other thread you asked why I would recommend to guys "don't do it". You say it here best.

"I grew up with these women and I can tell a wholesome woman with good values and morals from a woman who is not to be trusted."

You can. A perceptive guy living here can. Most guys out there looking for a Russian wife can't and as you said are playing with fire.

I wish you'd post this response in that other thread because I'd like to address it there.

[Daveman]

very true, and I've been consistently warning guys about this, but usually I just get accused of "being a salesman". I grew up with these women and I can tell a wholesome woman with good values and morals from a woman who is not to be trusted. You really need to be a fluent Russian speaker and grow up in that culture to be able to figure this out on your own in a short period of time. If a WM spends considerable amount of time living with a woman in the FSU he will have a better chance to figure things out by himself in maybe 6 months or a year. But since most guys only visit for a few days, use local translators who are not vested in their success to find an honest woman, or do not use a translator at all and just try to wing it using electronic translators or rely on a woman's limited English they are truly playing with fire and just gambling with their lives.

Believe it or not, Ed, I actually agree with you here. Damn salesman...   

[Gator]

I'm positive of this as the number is well above 4,000 women and counting..... Hardly a week goes by that I'm not getting a call from some woman I've never met wanting my services...... in my first couple years here I was literally meeting, on average, about 50-75 different RW a month. 

To the undisputed champion!
 
 
How much did you have to pay to get your job?

[Daveman]

To Misha:

None of here, or anywhere else can make valid claims about "most women"...

Most women have a vagina... though I am sure there are exceptions as always...  


I apologize to those vaginally challenged women I may have offended with the above comment... 

[AmericanBoy]

My honest opinion, you don't really get the chance to know someone by chatting over the internet or a couple quick visits to russia. I feel I have experience and learned a lot after living there for a year. I know my time there is nothing compared to some of you guys BUT it is more than many of the guys that will read this.

heres what one of the russian guys said to the boy who was trying to seduce that russian girl

But there are good girls also, first thing you have know about a girl is what is her family where is from, does she have good future here, and what is she, talk to her as much as you can, do not talk about how the fuck you love her, change themes and learn a person. After you learn what is she make you decision.

When I went to russia, love was the last thing on my mind. I didn't communicate with one Russian person on the internet before leaving america. I didn't know the alphabet, didnt know the language. In the moscow airport a guy told me "hey if you see a russian girl with a good butt and want to give her a compliment, tell her *precrasnya zhopa*". The young looking girl in that video had an amazing butt and I accidentally saved her email address in that note and all of her friends thought it was hilarious but said don't say that to anyone.. But as I said, I didn't know anything because I was looking for anything. Love however  found me and it happened the best way possible, naturally and on it's own.  Maybe some of you guys have much different intentions and are more in desperation mode than me but I think that guy gives good advice.

heres another video. Its nothign important but its at what I saw and some of you might find it interesting. Watching this stuff actually makes me miss russia =(

[Daveman]

...
heres another video. Its nothign important but its at what I saw and some of you might find it interesting. Watching this stuff actually makes me miss russia =(
...

I was going to ask you, why is it that you say you wish you had never gone to Russia? 

[Misha]

It's good to know what's out there. Even if it doesn't fit your personal experiences, it might fit those of other guys reading here.

Fine, I would be more than happy to hear the personal experience of any man going to Russia and experiencing this: "You will also be a celebrity, which at first is flattering but eventually becomes very annoying. At the night clubs it's usually a circle of girls around you and everyone asking for pictures, or girls offering to buy you drinks."

[AmericanBoy]

If anyone knows the name of that song or can find it out for me, it would be greatly appreciated =D

Daveman-
I ruined my relationship here. A relationship with what I consider the best girl in the world. She begged me not to go and then begged me to stay strong and return to her. I have a nice house, she drives a Mercedes, I have an 02 m3 and an s2000, we have a ton of cash in the bank, have a successful business, basically living the american dream and I'd give it all up, drive a geo metro and live in an apartment int he ghetto to have that relationship back. Biggest mistake of my life, without a doubt.

& Konfushus

Just ignore Misha. if it didn't happen to him, then it doesn't happen.

[Misha]

Just ignore Misha. if it didn't happen to him, then it doesn't happen.

As I said, I would be happy to hear of anybody else having their drinks paid for them by women, random strangers, in a Russian disco   

[Gator]

 
I won't speak for others, but no, that's not why. In general terms, AB is not going into lurid detail about his bedroom activities.  Were he posting about how many orgasms he gave a girl, and how he opened up their sexuality with vibrators and such, the reaction would've been the same.

ML, more proof of "That is the Way It Is."

If ML had mentioned "anal sex" I believe many would have broken out the tar and feathers. 

[Boethius]

If it was a passing comment, as it was in this thread, I doubt any woman would've commented.

[OlgaH]

As I said, I would be happy to hear of anybody having their drinks paid for them by women, random strangers, in a Russian disco 

There were a few times when I ordered drinks to absolutely strange men during my single days. 

[SFandEE]

As I said, I would be happy to hear of anybody having their drinks paid for them by women, random strangers, in a Russian disco 

I have had offers from a UW friend, but I covered the bill, not at a disco though.  I have had a stranger (he was with his wife) from the FSU buy me a drink out of friendliness and conversation.


I understand the difference, between this and disco girls, but I just do not find it unbelievable.  There are women who will buy guys drinks, it has happened to me and I have met generous and friendly people from FSU in my travels.

[Gator]

American Boy,
 
Ignoring the debated parts of your story, is this the summary of what most RWD people seem to accept:
 
-  Cute 27-yo American lad visits Russia for over 200 days. 
 
-  Many young Russian women, mostly teenage dyevushkas, became attracted to him at first sight and aggressively flirted with him.
 
-  Many if not most were interested in sex.
 
-  Of those he had sex with, most preferred anal sex.
 
-  He believes many had boyfriends and some even a husband.
 
 
-  This "cheating" seems to concern him as it does not reflect his experiences with American girls.   
 
Am I missing something else regarding women that should be included in a summary of your stay in Russia?
 

[SFandEE]

There were a few times when I ordered drinks to absolutely strange men during my single days. 

Fortunate guys!  You are about to hit 4,000 posts Olga.

[Eduard]

Believe it or not, Ed, I actually agree with you here. Damn salesman...   

[Konfushus]

To Misha:

A woman I met in a Moscow bar then known as the Boarhouse offered me several rounds of drinks one night. Technically though they were on the house. She knew one of the owners and we met and chatted with him later that night.

I've had men invite me for some drinks and to hang out with their group several times. That's not at all unusual in smaller cities. Often men do want to talk to you as much as the women... and want to see how much you can drink!

I've been on several dates here where the woman wanted to pay. Two said it was because they invited me on the date, I didn't invite them. Does that count? You seem to not believe that women here would offer to pay for anything. These were well travelled women with high paying professions. You can call them "Westernized" if you like. I didn't let them pay.

Once a couple of girls asked me to join their group. Drinks were offered and recieved, but I believe were paid for by some mafiosos that were feeding them drinks. Anyways, I could see one of the mafiosos was getting upset at one of the girls over the attention they were giving me and I ducked out of that place quick.

I've got to meet women in nearby towns (from where I was living) and their friend have greeted me with drinks, gifts, little parties (yes, kind of like a celebrity).

And once... but only once... I was in a smaller city club and a group of girls asked me to join them. They offered and paid for drinks.

In smaller city clubs here you can expect to see a lot more girls than guys, usually in groups sitting around a table ordering rounds of drinks or giant "boots" of beer (that's what I call them at least). A foreigner does draw attention, unless you're hiding in a corner and Russians can be very hospitable, especially drunk! AmericanBoy was treated to celebrity like hospitality in Tyumen... not a surprise.

Clearly, you're not someone who goes to clubs regularly. If you did you'd know a lot more wild things go down that what AmericanBoy has posted here. I've seen it and I'm not a player or heavy partier. I just like to dance. 

[OlgaH]

Fortunate guys!  You are about to hit 4,000 posts Olga.

 a free drink and a fun in a non-committal company of 30+ y.o. cheerful ladies 

4,000? should I get a drink?