Question for FSU ladies

[Eduard]

Здравствуйте милые девушки,

Have a question for you.
I just got the first inquiry from a RW about using my services to find a single WM for marriage. I've been considering marketing my services to RW who may be intrested in marriage to a WM for a while. Do you think that this is a good idea or do you think this is going to be a grand waste of time?
Thanks,
Ed

[pitbull]

Здравствуйте милые девушки,

Have a question for you.
I just got the first inquiry from a RW about using my services to find a single WM for marriage. I've been considering marketing my services to RW who may be intrested in marriage to a WM for a while. Do you think that this is a good idea or do you think this is going to be a grand waste of time?
Thanks,
Ed

Need more info.
 
What's the difference in business model betweenb WM and RW? Are u gonna get them to the US and chaperone around on dates, like you do with WM?
 
What's the pricing gonna be?
 

[happyandstable]

Ed IMHO this seems like a no brainer to me. You have a pool of men looking for fsuw's. So why not develop a pool of FSUW's looking for WM. In my mind it would be just and extension of what you already do so effectively. It would be a natural fit for you and an additional source of income for you. Of course like any new business it will take time for you to get it off the ground and make it profitable, but still looks just like a natural extension of what you do already. Keep us posted as to your plans you already know what I think of your abilities.   

[ghost of moon goddess]

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What's the pricing gonna be?

demand-oriented, I guess 

[Eduard]

Need more info.
 
What's the difference in business model betweenb WM and RW? Are u gonna get them to the US and chaperone around on dates, like you do with WM?
 
What's the pricing gonna be?

I haven't thought this through yet, but you bring up very good points. Thank you! Although not impossible it would be pretty difficult for some RW to visit the US to meet with their prospects. I suppose that men would have to travel to wherever the woman lives, or maybe they could meet in a neutral location where Russians can travel easily, like Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, Mexico, Turkey, etc. and have men meet them there.
As far as pricing it would have to be similar to what I charge WM since I will probably be spending just as much time working for RW. I base my quote on an hourly rate and how much time I guesstimate it will take me to reach the positive outcome. I suppose just like I am now targeting men who's income is $75K a year and up, the women would have to be pretty well off to be able to afford my services. But I understand that there is a good number of single financially secure women in Russia who are having a hard time finding decent commitment minded men locally. So I might be able to fill that niche.

[Eduard]

Ed IMHO this seems like a no brainer to me. You have a pool of men looking for fsuw's. So why not develop a pool of FSUW's looking for WM. In my mind it would be just and extension of what you already do so effectively. It would be a natural fit for you and an additional source of income for you. Of course like any new business it will take time for you to get it off the ground and make it profitable, but still looks just like a natural extension of what you do already. Keep us posted as to your plans you already know what I think of your abilities.   

Thank you, Happy!


PS. and stable ))

[Lily]

Of course that would be a great idea Ed!    Davno pora!

[missAmeno]

But I understand that there is a good number of single financially secure women in Russia who are having a hard time finding decent commitment minded men locally. So I might be able to fill that niche.

Speculative of course  but still ... what do you think could be requirements of such women for potential husbands 

[whynotme]

any discounts for ladies? 

[TheTraveler]

As far as pricing it would have to be similar to what I charge WM...
 

eduard, chances of RW lining up and paying anything substantial for this kind of service are around zero percent.

ok, ladies, i've donned my nomex shorts... flame away!

[onlyFSU4me]

eduard, chances of RW lining up and paying anything substantial for this kind of service are around zero percent.

ok, ladies, i've donned my nomex shorts... flame away!

 I'm more worried about all those poor 40-60 year old RW who are going to be taken advantage of by all those 20 year old golddigging, pro-dater  American men!
    [size=78%] [/size]

[acctBill]

Ed a good business idea. You're right about there being a large pool of Russian business women that could afford your prices. Many single Russian women  regularly visit countries in Europe, even the US.  If one has the necessary financial resources getting a visa isn't difficult. As for mutually acceptable  countries for a rendezvous,  Egypt and Thailand are always favourites with Russians, especially in the winter.

[pitbull]

I haven't thought this through yet, but you bring up very good points. Thank you! Although not impossible it would be pretty difficult for some RW to visit the US to meet with their prospects. I suppose that men would have to travel to wherever the woman lives, or maybe they could meet in a neutral location where Russians can travel easily, like Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, Mexico, Turkey, etc. and have men meet them there.
As far as pricing it would have to be similar to what I charge WM since I will probably be spending just as much time working for RW. I base my quote on an hourly rate and how much time I guesstimate it will take me to reach the positive outcome. I suppose just like I am now targeting men who's income is $75K a year and up, the women would have to be pretty well off to be able to afford my services. But I understand that there is a good number of single financially secure women in Russia who are having a hard time finding decent commitment minded men locally. So I might be able to fill that niche.

Several things:
1. Since you have to make a living at the US standard, you'll need to charge those RW the same or close rate as AM. Do some statistical research (if stats are available) as to what % of population in Russia make $75K and over, and how many of them are single women.
2. Of those well off single women, the overwhelming majority will be older, and substantially older than those RW you market to your AM clients (the whole idea is that WM can get a substantially younger and prettier woman and are willing to pay you for that). If those older highly successful RW cannot find a man in Russia, I would imagine they are not the most attractive ones (for the most part).
3. So, using the same business model, you should look for WM on american local dating sites. or are you gonna look among those who want to go the MOB route? In the first case, you'll run a cougar operation. In the second case, the interests of WM and RW may not be aligned.
4. Finally, is the idea that WM will move to Russia? If otherwise, then how many AM that you find on the local american dating sites, will be willing to deal with all that is required to immigrate a RW spouse? Will the RW even want to move if they are sisking to lose the successful/business?
 
You see, basically, a typical MOB and your approach have the same ground: economic disparity between Russia and the US, which allows even average RM to upgrade to a much younger and beautiful woman.
I cahn hardly see it working for your new business model, you'll have to think hard about what this "ground" could be.
 
For further business analysis, please send me a PM, I'll let u know my hourly rate 

[Eduard]

Pitbull, I appreciate your thoughts and comments. Good thoughtful stuff to sleep on.

[Eduard]

Of course that would be a great idea Ed!    Davno pora!

thank you Lilya! How are you? How is Canada treating you?

[Eduard]

any discounts for ladies? 

off course!

[Eduard]

Speculative of course  but still ... what do you think could be requirements of such women for potential husbands 

Hopefully they would be realistic in their expectations. I have 2 cousins in the FSU whom I'm very close with, both are in their early 50s, very well off financially. One is in Ukraine, the other one in Moscow. Both told me: "find me a handsome, rich, well educated man." We all know that a handsome, rich, well educated single man will prolly be looking for gorgeous, slim women who are quite a bit younger than my plump 53 yo cousins. I love them dearly and would love to help, but we all know that their expectations are not realistic.
Will any of these RW have realistic expectations? Remains to be seen.

[whynotme]

"find me a handsome, rich, well educated man."

что нужно вычеркнуть из списка  to be realistic? 

[Shadow]

Hopefully they would be realistic in their expectations. I have 2 cousins in the FSU whom I'm very close with, both are in their early 50s, very well off financially. One is in Ukraine, the other one in Moscow. Both told me: "find me a handsome, rich, well educated man." We all know that a handsome, rich, well educated single man will prolly be looking for gorgeous, slim women who are quite a bit younger than my plump 53 yo cousins. I love them dearly and would love to help, but we all know that their expectations are not realistic.
Will any of these RW have realistic expectations? Remains to be seen.

Why would it be realistic for a plump well-off 53 year old man to find a handsome and well-educated woman, and not the opposite ? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[calmissile]

Eduard,  I am glad you have awoken Mila, our sleeping beauty from her hibernation. 

[happyandstable]

Why would it be realistic for a plump well-off 53 year old man to find a handsome and well-educated woman, and not the opposite ? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

   This is very true you never know what makes people choose one individual over another. I still think this is a great idea not all 50-70 year old men are looking for a much younger wife. Which in my mind is another unrealistic expectation we all know large age gaps do not work or last as permanent relationship very often. I would also think there would be some cost and time savings for Ed servicing both sides of this equations. It was in another thread that some one said that men will do amazing things if they are interested. If some one met one of your ladies and decided that she was the women for him then anything is possible. In this global age finding a foreign wife is no longer seen unusual. 

[whynotme]

Eduard,  I am glad you have awoken Mila, our sleeping beauty from her hibernation. 

Doug, I'm afraid that have to sell my kidney to pay for Eduard service 

[Eduard]

Why would it be realistic for a plump well-off 53 year old man to find a handsome and well-educated woman, and not the opposite ? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

IMO women and men generally age differently after age 40. It's just how nature created us so not much can be done about that.
In your example above the key word is "well-off". A well-off, plump 53 yo woman probably can find a handsome, well-educated man who is looking for more financial security.

[Eduard]

что нужно вычеркнуть из списка  to be realistic? 

2 out of 3 prolly would have to be ommitted 

[Eduard]

Ed a good business idea. You're right about there being a large pool of Russian business women that could afford your prices. Many single Russian women  regularly visit countries in Europe, even the US.  If one has the necessary financial resources getting a visa isn't difficult. As for mutually acceptable  countries for a rendezvous,  Egypt and Thailand are always favourites with Russians, especially in the winter.

Hi Bill, thanks!
The biggest challenge I see with this is that many women (just as many men) have unrealistic expectations. Funny how guys get criticised for this while in my experience women are just as susceptible to living in a fantasy land as men.
I was talking to this FSU lady. She is around 45, about 5 or 6 in regards to looks, well educated, makes decent money but I wouldn't call it "well-off" by the US standarts. She asked me to find  a handsome man (9), up to 50 yo with good education. In the West "good education" means "well-off" in most cases, so basically she wants a rich, handsome guy up to 50 yo.
Do you guys think she has realistic expectations? I agree with Shadow that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" however I'm yet to meet a handsome, well-off late 40s or early 50s guy with MBA who's preferred age parameters for a potential mate are above age 40. In most cases they are looking for an 8 or 9 age 25 to 35.
Do you guys see where the problem is?