Russia is HELL! Women are desperate to get out!

[calmissile]

That is an easy question...... I have already been driven mad by a lady that I was madly in love with.  I have learned the hard way.  I am much wiser now.   It is unfortunate that I did not have all the 'red flags' in place during my romance.  Nevertheles, it was a wonderfull experience.  The learining proces goes on reagardless of our age or culture.  I don't regret my experience for a moment.  It is part of life!

[Shadow]

And now to the point Eduard tries to make, that not many seem to see.
When a woman posts her profile, she will get reactions from different countries.
If she is on an international dating site, once can expect her to at least considering living in another country.
The initial replies a woman will get from men living in Europe will introduce the person.
The initial replies she will get from the US will notify her she could be living there.

[calmissile]

Shadow
 Your right of course.  I agree.  Why waste a lot of time to see if you are compatibile.   If there are deal breakers, why not got it out in the open and not waste each others time?

[whynotme]

Doug, indeed... Let us stay in our 3rd world economy and suffer 

[calmissile]

Actually it is a different mindset from American men..   If you appreciate the effort we make to immigrate you to the USA, then you will appreciae what we have done for you and expect  the expections that we expect in return.  A fsu woman that expects the world to be kissing their ass because they are Ukrainain or Russian is over.   USA men have many options.  Whether to accept what is here in single women (poor and fat) or to look for women that respect thier appeance and want to look beautifil for their husbands.

[whynotme]

USA men have many options. 

Russian women have not that many... just to send u to hell for such attitude 

[calmissile]

Doug, indeed... Let us stay in our 3rd world economy and suffer 

It is entirelly up to you!  We are not going to kiss your ass any longer!  If you want a man that will love you and be faithfull to you then you need to get off your high horse and accept what is waiting for you.   If you have unrealistic visions of grandure then you might be dissapointed.  USA men expect a women to be a contributor to the family and not a couch potatoe sitting on her ass watching Opra, while he is hard at work.   It seems that a lot of FSU women expect that their American men are going to support them while they do very little to contribute to the family.
Not going to happen!!!!   We have American women that would like to sit on their asses and do nothing but eat bon bons and watch TV all day.   I am looking for a FSU wife that will convert me into a healthy eating habit and make my life fun and full of activity.  I do not want to ever get old and a younger FSU women of the right mental frame will make it happen.

[whynotme]

ну и с чего мне любить американцев, когда их даже уважать не за что 

[missAmeno]

...  If you appreciate the effort we make to immigrate you to the USA, then you will appreciae what we have done for you and expect  the expections that we expect in return. ...

...We are not going to kiss your ass any longer!

... get off your high horse and accept what is waiting for you.

I would really appreciate if someone can suggest some kind of jaw supporting headgear. It seems my jaw is keep dropping every time I read this forum

[LiveFromUkraine]

I would really appreciate if someone can suggest some kind of jaw supporting headgear. It seems my jaw is keep dropping every time I read this forum

I'm trying to figure out if he is talking for all of us men or just himself.   

[calmissile]

I'm trying to figure out if he is talking for all of us men or just himself.   

It is pretty simple..... I am talking about myself.   What anyone else expects is up to them!

[Doll]

You actually contradict yourself in your post. Doll is living in the US, which means she did not move for the imaginary land of milk and honey, but for a husband regardless of where he lives.
Every woman can follow a man to Paradise, but only a woman in love will follow him to Hell.

Shadow, don't waste your breath. Calmissile actually got lost- the thread about AM using their citizenship as an advantage is open by Ed. I just reminded him (Ed) that he sort of did same (with some twist).
 I just " stepped on a favorite blister"

[Doll]

I'm trying to figure out if he is talking for all of us men or just himself.   

All the US men and all the FSU women 

[calmissile]

Doll,
Why do you not be able to put yourself in the shoes of the AM that is looking for a genuine relationship for a loving wife from FSU?  We have to learn the FSU culture while the FSU women have no interest in learning the American culture.  It seems to me that if a FSU women is wanting to immigrate to America, then she would be willing to accept and adapt to the American culture.

If I were wanting to immigrate to the FSU culture, then I would expect me to accept the FSU culture and not bitch about it!   Make sense?

[LiveFromUkraine]

Doll,
Why do you not be able to put yourself in the shoes of the AM that is looking for a genuine relationship for a loving wife from FSU?  We have to learn the FSU culture while the FSU women have no interest in learning the American culture.  It seems to me that if a FSU women is wanting to immigrate to America, then she would be willing to accept and adapt to the American culture.

If I were wanting to immigrate to the FSU culture, then I would expect me to accept the FSU culture and not bitch about it!   Make sense?

Have you lived in a different culture for an extended time?

[calmissile]

Nope!  Only for a month or two.  What does that have to do with the question?

[calmissile]

FSU women can be direct. But being direct towards them is a grave mistake
Though Doug, to be honest, how are you going to deal with FSUW, if they drive you mad even through the forum?

 Fortunately the women I am in contact with have nothing in common with some of the women that post on the forum.   

[missAmeno]

Doll,
Why do you not be able to put yourself in the shoes of the AM that is looking for a genuine relationship for a loving wife from FSU?  We have to learn the FSU culture while the FSU women have no interest in learning the American culture.  It seems to me that if a FSU women is wanting to immigrate to America, then she would be willing to accept and adapt to the American culture.

If I were wanting to immigrate to the FSU culture, then I would expect me to accept the FSU culture and not bitch about it!   Make sense?

Not trying to speak on behalf of Doll, just would like to ask some questions for clarification if you dont mind:
Are you talking about those FSUW that decided they want to immigrate to USA only? Do normally women on international dating sites state they interested to find husband from USA only? Or you mean FSUW should learn about cultures of all countries their prospective husband could be from?

[Lily]

ну и с чего мне любить американцев, когда их даже уважать не за что 

Hope that you mean some individual Americans, not the whole nation 

[LiveFromUkraine]

Nope!  Only for a month or two.  What does that have to do with the question?

You are asking Doll to put herself into your shoes but you will not do the same.

Look, there are plenty of things I don't accept in my culture.  There are plenty of things I do accept and enjoy.  I don't think someone has to totally accept a culture just because they moved there for love.  Especially a culture that will be a lot different then where they come from.

For some reason, the people who yell the loudest and demand the most tend to have the least amount of experience. 

[calmissile]

Hope that you mean some individual Americans, not the whole nation 

I don't pretend to represent the whole American culture,  only my own interests in finding a loving FSU or American wife.  Based on the inputs from FSU (unhappy) women that post here, I find that it is not the norm of women that are sincere in finding a foreign husbnd.  To each their own!  The women that are unhappy with America need to evaluate their options and return home if they are not happy.  We have tens of thousands that immigrate to the USA that would never leave to their country of origin.  It is an individual choice and as far as I know the door is open to leave if you like!

[Doll]

Doll,
Why do you not be able to put yourself in the shoes of the AM that is looking for a genuine relationship for a loving wife from FSU?  We have to learn the FSU culture while the FSU women have no interest in learning the American culture.  It seems to me that if a FSU women is wanting to immigrate to America, then she would be willing to accept and adapt to the American culture.

If I were wanting to immigrate to the FSU culture, then I would expect me to accept the FSU culture and not bitch about it!   Make sense?

Why "do I not be able"?)))))))))
Actually I do\am.
 

[LiveFromUkraine]

We have tens of thousands that immigrate to the USA that would never leave to their country of origin.

A lot of people are leaving the US because of better economical possibilities elsewhere.  I doubt those that stay are staying for the culture. 

Brazilians leaving US.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/05/02/brazilians-leaving-the-u-s-behind/

US citizens renouncing their citizenship
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2012/05/01/tax-expatriates-well-always-have-paris/

More citizens leaving for abroad.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/16/us/more-us-children-of-immigrants-are-leaving-us.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42823381/ns/business-world_business/t/why-immigrant-entrepreneurs-are-leaving-us/#.T6PIS_XQoyw

[pitbull]

Doll,
Fortunately you do not reflect the majority of FSU women that want a better life and a loving husband regardless of where he lives.  Your constant attacks on America and American men are not the relection of the majority of FSU women.   You obviously have been hurt or felt betayed by an Amerian man.   You presence on this forum is that of one women that has a a problem with USA or USA men.  You seem to paint evey American man into the styerotype that you have in your mind.  It is sad!!    There are many FSU women that are very happily married to American or Canadian men that think it is the greatest place on earth.  Perhaps you should do some soul seaching and find out what is wrong with you to not feel the same way!

Hey, how about those happily married RW who do not think America is the greatest place on Earth?
You see, we have a point of comparison, having actually experienced a different system. You don't.
And America is falling behind many other places on waaaay too many points!

[pitbull]

I don't pretend to represent the whole American culture,  only my own interests in finding a loving FSU or American wife.  Based on the inputs from FSU (unhappy) women that post here, I find that it is not the norm of women that are sincere in finding a foreign husbnd.  To each their own!  The women that are unhappy with America need to evaluate their options and return home if they are not happy.  We have tens of thousands that immigrate to the USA that would never leave to their country of origin.  It is an individual choice and as far as I know the door is open to leave if you like!

Well, obviously calmissile is mentally frozen somewhere in the sixties, and does sincerely believe America is the greatest place on Earth, and has the greatest everything! I can totally see the younger FSUW's fate if she marries him: "You should be grateful for the chance I gave you to live in the greatest country in the world! Now go work, cook and then kiss my feet! Or I'll send you back to your 3rd world country!!!"