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I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« on: August 06, 2012, 03:48:54 PM »
Gentlemen: I have experienced "complications."

An active member of this board "SUBMARINED" me with the woman with whom I had interest in Ukraine.

I am not the first to make the mistake  - this place is not a private board.  Things written here can blow up in your face.  BUT, members here can also add to the problem GREATLY - all is fair in love and war.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2012, 04:00:29 PM by rivardco »

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2012, 04:09:56 PM »
I said same years ago- do not post pics and details.
As for your GF, it is only fair for her to know "stuf"))))
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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2012, 05:52:23 PM »
How did she took it?

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2012, 06:01:41 PM »
Sorry Riv, that sucks.

And it just seems bizarre.Why would anyone bother?



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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2012, 06:13:43 PM »
I am sorry to hear that too.  I find it deplorable that someone would take steps to damage anothers possibility of happiness. 

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2012, 06:25:15 PM »
IMHO, it is just as unsavory to come post such an accusation without any proof or details. Very Harry Reid like. If it is true and you have proof, why not be forthcoming with it? Call them out.

Your history here riv, is one of self aggrandizing, bolstering and self promotion. Generally, when women reject you, "they" have some sort of problem. How do we know this is different?

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2012, 06:47:09 PM »
So what!
 
1.   While a gentleman would say little if nothing, you did not write anything bad about this UW.  In fact, you used glowing terms IIRC.

2.  There was nothing juicy to discuss because there was so little passion between the two of you that some of us suggested you move on.

3.  And you did move on, recognizing that the two of you are incompatible.  You words above, "...the woman with whom I had interest in Ukraine").  "had interest" is past tense.

4.  If this woman had a relationship going with the active member of RWD who "submarined" you, why did she meet you?   Evidently, he is not very important to her.
 
Is someone playing games?   Jealous?   Maybe this "active member" will step forward and elaborate.  He had to be in your inner circle of acquaintances to have enough information to put 2 + 2 together.   All we know is her age, city, and young sister.
 

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2012, 07:19:52 PM »
Remember with Billy,  one member here suggested we try to make contact with his bride to be and 'warn' her.
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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2012, 10:46:39 PM »
Remember with Billy,  one member here suggested we try to make contact with his bride to be and 'warn' her.

No. Given the nature of the aforementioned thread, one member here (me) suggested that, in the interest of openness and fair play, it would be good to point her to BillyB's thread and let her make her own mind up by reading the words from the asses horse's mouth.

I have no sympathy for men that have lost a love interest because they chose to post on an Internet forum things they didn't disclose to the women or posted confidential information about their girlfriends they knew she wouldn't approve of.

But, fwiw, it wasn't me in this case. Not that I can really blame anyone for doing so to be honest.

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2012, 12:06:59 AM »
If it happened while you had a relationship, you are either not as good a man as you think you are, or she looks for the better deal.

Either way, best find someone that would not consider being submarined.
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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2012, 02:32:31 AM »
If it happened while you had a relationship, you are either not as good a man as you think you are, or she looks for the better deal.

Either way, best find someone that would not consider being submarined.

What the hell does submarried mean?

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2012, 03:53:20 AM »
No. Given the nature of the aforementioned thread, one member here (me) suggested that, in the interest of openness and fair play, it would be good to point her to BillyB's thread."

Ade, lets not mislead the newbies here.  You did not only suggest that 'someone' should notify BillyB's girlfriend about his postings.   I was you that admitted that you and your wife tried to locate her on the internet and " let her make her own mind up by reading the words from the asses horse's mouth."

It is you that cannot seem to keep your nose in your own business and cannot resist to stick your nose into to othes pesonal business.  Perhaps it is a cultural difference between the USA culture and Norway.  I do not know.  In my country you are typical of the tattletale student that runs to the teacher frequenly and tattles on any kid that is doing something against the rules.  You would not be popular in America, so best you stay where you are.  Perhaps it is the European culture, I do not know.  I hope are not typical.

I read part of the BillyB story and for the most part, I am unconcerned about how their romance plays out.  It is none of my business and I do not judge others with only hearing one side of the story.  You need to grow up, be more tolerant of others, and not draw conclusions about something you know very little about!!

You also made some very caustic comments about me in a different forum and once again formed opinions about something you know nothing about.  Unfortunately I am not able to refute your rediculous comments on that forum which was no doubt your strategy.  Make caustic comments when you knew that I could not refute them on that venue.  This is a strong indication of your character (or lack therof).

If you and your two cohearts are going to attack people then perhaps you should grow some maturity and do so whereby the receiptients can comment directly on your comments.  You got beat up pretty bad in your ranting on the other forum/threads  but I do not suspect that it will change your personality or opinions.   We might just have to ignore you on this forum and let you spew your b.s. as you normally do!




"I have no sympathy for men that have lost a love interest because they chose to post on an Internet forum things they didn't disclose to the women or posted confidential information about their girlfriends they knew she wouldn't approve of."

"But, fwiw, it wasn't me in this case. Not that I can really blame anyone for doing so to be honest."

It is surprising (or maybe not) that you are one of the first to claim it was not you.  Why would it be necessary to defend yourself if you were not one of the first suspects that would come to the mind of the members.... strange indeed..

The fact that you would support anyone else for doing so, tells a lot about your character (or lack thereof!

One thing is very clear....... with a handful of members like yourself, it is not wise to post anything personal in Trip Reprorts on this forum.  The travelogue is fine without any persona information.  My Trip Report on the other forum had a large following and many, many compliments for the day to day interaction between my fiance and myself.  The newbies and some old timers loved the real life  day to day interaction between my fiance and myself.  Unfortunatey, members like yourself will discourace members from posting what is probably the most valuable detailed experiences we have in our adventures to the FSU.  It is unfortunate that there is not venue where we can provide this experience to the newbies without persons like yourself from tearing them aparat and making it not a wothwhile effort.   As it is, most of us are sharing our trip reports among trusted friends off line where we are imune to criticism and caustic remarks from members like yourself.

« Last Edit: August 07, 2012, 04:01:13 AM by calmissile »

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2012, 04:44:02 AM »
Guys, guys, no fighting!
It is only obvious, Riv, that Internet is NOT a private place. You exposed yourself too much- you took the risk.
 
This forum is open to millions and millions. The place your GF lives is quite small, so the girl (we know her age, family, you posted pictures) is VERY recognizable.
Riv's background is quite scandal.
So, he has what he has.
Rat? The infor on this board is not a secret.
 

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2012, 07:46:05 AM »
What the hell does submarried mean?
Submarined  ;)
It means that someone contacted the woman to give her information posted on RWD with the idea of damaging the relationship, or possibly pursuing her himself.
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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2012, 07:49:54 AM »
It is you that cannot seem to keep your nose in your own business and cannot resist to stick your nose into to othes pesonal business.  Perhaps it is a cultural difference between the USA culture and Norway.  I do not know.  In my country you are typical of the tattletale student that runs to the teacher frequenly and tattles on any kid that is doing something against the rules.  You would not be popular in America, so best you stay where you are.  Perhaps it is the European culture, I do not know.  I hope are not typical.


Absolutely. That is why we have all the Sanduskys out there preying on the weak.
 
Definitely, the guy who blew the whistle on Sandusky is not very popular. As a matter of fact, he is considered a pariah.
 
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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2012, 08:08:05 AM »
IMHO, it is just as unsavory to come post such an accusation without any proof or details. Very Harry Reid like. If it is true and you have proof, why not be forthcoming with it? Call them out.

Your history here riv, is one of self aggrandizing, bolstering and self promotion. Generally, when women reject you, "they" have some sort of problem. How do we know this is different?

I was going to ask the same thing.
 
Tell us Riv, who was the "rat" that sold you down the river?
 
No name, never happened.
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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2012, 08:25:50 AM »
Submarined  ;)
It means that someone contacted the woman to give her information posted on RWD with the idea of damaging the relationship, or possibly pursuing her himself.

Aka torpedoed


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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2012, 09:14:53 AM »

I was going to ask the same thing.
 
Tell us Riv, who was the "rat" that sold you down the river?
 
No name, never happened.

I agree. riv made the accusation and thus, the burden of proof lies with him. Otherwise he is just slandering the entire forum. Put up or shut up.

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2012, 09:27:39 AM »

One thing is very clear....... with a handful of members like yourself, it is not wise to post anything personal in Trip Reprorts on this forum.  The travelogue is fine without any persona information.  My Trip Report on the other forum had a large following and many, many compliments for the day to day interaction between my fiance and myself.  The newbies and some old timers loved the real life  day to day interaction between my fiance and myself.  Unfortunatey, members like yourself will discourace members from posting what is probably the most valuable detailed experiences we have in our adventures to the FSU.  It is unfortunate that there is not venue where we can provide this experience to the newbies without persons like yourself from tearing them aparat and making it not a wothwhile effort.   As it is, most of us are sharing our trip reports among trusted friends off line where we are imune to criticism and caustic remarks from members like yourself.

calmissle, then don't post your trip report. Nobody, AFAIK has twisted your arm to do so. Why do you persist in this vein to discourage others from posting one? Get over it. There are literally 1000's of TRs posted on the internet for those to read who wish to. There are also 1000's of places to post TRs for those who wish to do so, this board included. TRs tend to stand on their own merit, many do not cut the muster. Big fuggin deal.

Perhaps your following at the other forum wasn't quite as large as you wish for us to believe here but in any event, it doesn't matter. If you want to post your TR then, post it, you are free to do so. If you don't, then don't. There have been no demands on you either way. Discouraging others from doing so because you don't have nerve and wish to whine about it is chicken shit IMHO

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2012, 10:23:07 AM »
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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2012, 10:52:07 AM »
BWT, it doesn't need to be an "active member"- this board is open to the whole Internet.
Somebody who reads English and has connection in Poltava knew or found Irina. That's all.
Riv posted pics and names so it is easy to find her.
There are not that many agencies in this city, so to "recognize" the girls is easy.
Ths "submarine" person also googled Riv's background (which is exposed to everybody).
Did Riv say like "guys, it is a private infor, don't tell anybody"? ))))))
No, he bragged about everything and got what he got.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2012, 10:55:18 AM by Doll »

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2012, 11:16:30 AM »
It is surprising (or maybe not) that you are one of the first to claim it was not you.  Why would it be necessary to defend yourself if you were not one of the first suspects that would come to the mind of the members.... strange indeed..


I can assure you that if I felt it necessary to inform Riv's girl about his postings, I wouldn't be coy about admitting it.


But, to be honest, I found the whole Riv affair to be incredibly tedious and I read less than a few percent of his infamous thread. That he wanted to deceive women about his past says everything I need to know really and I guess he will, and probably has, reaped what he's sown.


Likewise, what I know of your behaviour with your Ukrainian fiancée tells me all I need to know about you too. Your opinion is pretty much worthless in my mind in fact.  ;)  But have at it if you feel it fills your life with some meaning.

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2012, 11:48:27 AM »
Riv,

That sucks.

keep us posted on the whereabouts of this dirty rat please.

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2012, 12:18:59 PM »
Remember with Billy,  one member here suggested we try to make contact with his bride to be and 'warn' her.

I got your back here SJ.  8)

I ain't no squealer or rat, but there isn't one "man" on this forum who wouldn't want to know or be told/warned that he was about to marry the FSU town whore.

So IMHO, there isn't any reason to believe that a nice FSU girl shouldn't be aware of the fact that she just married the village creep.  :rolleyes:

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Re: I smell a rat ... (be careful about posting detailed TRs)
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2012, 12:42:09 PM »
BWT, it doesn't need to be an "active member"- this board is open to the whole Internet.
Somebody who reads English and has connection in Poltava knew or found Irina. That's all.
Riv posted pics and names so it is easy to find her.
There are not that many agencies in this city, so to "recognize" the girls is easy.
Ths "submarine" person also googled Riv's background (which is exposed to everybody).
Did Riv say like "guys, it is a private infor, don't tell anybody"? ))))))
No, he bragged about everything and got what he got.

you are right for the most part, but you are missing one thing.  motive.   while all the info is available, someone must have a reason to collect it all and present it to the woman. To do such a thing, one would have to be bored as hell  AND pure evil, or more likely it's someone Riv has pissed off and been fueding with, someone who want to get (revenge, justice, even...) for something.


EDIT: I did a simple search and found this

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/for-him-dating-c583256.html


Seems you are at it again Riv.
What the hell is wrong with you ?

Just put and end to all this drama once and for all please.

You went onto a complaints boards and posted a bunch of stuff about the guy who introduced you to your girl.  What the hell did you expect to happen?

Get some help man, seriously.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2012, 02:00:21 PM by newjason »

 

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