DELUSIONAL - MEN VS WOMEN

[Eduard]

There has been a lot of discussion on these fora concerning how some WM are delusional because they feel that they can get a hot young gorgeous RW even if they themselves are old and overweight. I'd say that in most cases they are...
Interestingly enough I've been noticing that FSU women are not immunized to this affliction! For instance I'm working with a very good looking, very tall (190cm and women LOVE tall!) guy. Obviously we have no problem getting the most beautiful women to respond (I'm talking 9s and 10s). But what is surprising that he gets so many winks, messages and comments from older, overweight and unattractive women who should know that they have no chance in hell with this guy. So me thinks women can be just as bad as men when it comes to "Unrealistic expectations"!
Ed

[ML]

Agree Ed.

Most all the FSUW who contacted me on dating websites were too old (that means they were my age       ) and overweight.

Plenty of those types here in USA, so no need to fish in a foreign pond, if that is what is desired.

[I/O]

Eduard: There is a theory - the more f*&^s you ask for, the more you get. Apparently some of these ol' boilers are subscribing to that? 

[Eduard]

Eduard: There is a theory - the more f*&^s you ask for, the more you get. Apparently some of these ol' boilers are subscribing to that? 

Matt, don't hold back now, tell us how you really feel! 

[Eduard]

Plenty of those types here in USA, so no need to fish in a foreign pond, if that is what is desired.

exactly! And by the way, this particular guy dated some hot AW locally just didn't feel like they were keepers for a LTR and having a family.

[Shadow]

Women as not as different from men as men think.
However they are in many cases more pragmatic in accepting what they can get.

[Eduard]

Women as not as different from men as men think.

Maybe some of them, however others are even more different from men than most men think! I think it would be naive to think that we even begin to understand women in many cases... I'm learning constantly, and the more I learn the more I'm amazed how difficult it is to comprehend the depth of their emotions and insecurities, how different their logic works from ours.

[The Natural]

On the question of:


Women as not as different from men as men think.

Maybe some of them, however others are even more different from men than most men think! I think it would be naive to think that we even begin to understand women in many cases...

Which is why men, of course, need professional council for a small fee, from other men running a business which were originally formed as a result of a few good men finding out just exactly how women work....

[Eduard]

which were originally formed as a result of a few good men finding out just exactly how women work....

could you clarify this part please?

[Ranetka]

There has been a lot of discussion on these fora concerning how some WM are delusional because they feel that they can get a hot young gorgeous RW even if they themselves are old and overweight. I'd say that in most cases they are...
Interestingly enough I've been noticing that FSU women are not immunized to this affliction! For instance I'm working with a very good looking, very tall (190cm and women LOVE tall!) guy. Obviously we have no problem getting the most beautiful women to respond (I'm talking 9s and 10s). But what is surprising that he gets so many winks, messages and comments from older, overweight and unattractive women who should know that they have no chance in hell with this guy. So me thinks women can be just as bad as men when it comes to "Unrealistic expectations"!
Ed

They probably read on agencies websites that all American women their age are overweight, do not dress well and have horrid attitude so decided that they have a chance in that desert of femininity US seems to be .

[ML]

They probably read on agencies websites that all American women their age are overweight, do not dress well and have horrid attitude so decided that they have a chance in that desert of femininity US seems to be .

Most of us are aware of the misconceptions that are embodied in the 'agency speak' that is directed toward WM concerning FSUW.

Now this is the first I have heard that there is 'agency speak' for the FSUW to read also.

Can you please give us a summary of the main items that are told about WW . . . and for that matter, about WM also?  Thanks

[Ranetka]

Can you please give us a summary of the main items that are told about WW . . . and for that matter, about WM also?  Thanks

You're asking ME? That's too funny. There are plenty men on this very website who can tell how they can not find their match in US because all available AWs are.....fill in the blanks yourself, would you.

[ML]

You're asking ME? That's too funny. There are plenty men on this very website who can tell how they can not find their match in US because all available AWs are.....fill in the blanks yourself, would you.

No, I wanted to know what the agency websites told the FSUW about WW and WM.

[Ranetka]

Most of us are aware of the misconceptions that are embodied in the 'agency speak' that is directed toward WM concerning FSUW.

Now this is the first I have heard that there is 'agency speak' for the FSUW to read also.

Can you please give us a summary of the main items that are told about WW . . . and for that matter, about WM also?  Thanks

It's the same hype really. That ~AMs are mre family oriented and that RWs are "better".


I think you are one of rare breed stating that available RWs are the same only younger.

[ML]

I think you are one of rare breed stating that available RWs are the same only younger.

No, actually my mantra is that there is no difference except the FSUW are generally more slender.

And, I state that, although the same exact specification for any given FSUW can be found in a WW . . .  this WW woman may not be attainable by the WM here whereas the FSUW is attainable.

[Muzh]

Most of us are aware of the misconceptions that are embodied in the 'agency speak' that is directed toward WM concerning FSUW.

Now this is the first I have heard that there is 'agency speak' for the FSUW to read also.

Can you please give us a summary of the main items that are told about WW . . . and for that matter, about WM also?  Thanks

http://russian-brides-mail-order.ru/women/the-best-way-to-meet-women.html

Scroll down.

Now Ed, a simple question.

Do you keep them honest and tell them they have no chance in hell or do you say nothing?

[Ranetka]

No, actually my mantra is that there is no difference except the FSUW are generally more slender.

And, I state that, although the same exact specification for any given FSUW can be found in a WW . . .  this WW woman may not be attainable by the WM here whereas the FSUW is attainable.

Aren't "younger=slender" generally?

[Ranetka]

http://russian-brides-mail-order.ru/women/the-best-way-to-meet-women.html

Scroll down.

Now Ed, a simple question.

Do you keep them honest and tell them they have no chance in hell or do you say nothing?

(shrugging shoulders) Usual women, some pretty some not so, just A LOT of photoshop.

[Muzh]

(shrugging shoulders) Usual women, some pretty some not so, just A LOT of photoshop.

Ranetka, that was a response to ML regarding agencies who refer to AW in a bad way. That is why you have to scroll down and in between some of the photoshopped babes you will find such reference.

[ML]

Aren't "younger=slender" generally?

Generally yes . . . within the same country.

But in cross-country comparisons . . . the FSUW tend to be more slender than their WW counterparts who are equal in age.

For myself . . . I have to go for the women who are somewhat younger than me for the reason of 'still interested in sex.'

[Eduard]

No, actually my mantra is that there is no difference except the FSUW are generally more slender.

And, I state that, although the same exact specification for any given FSUW can be found in a WW . . . this WW woman may not be attainable by the WM here whereas the FSUW is attainable.

and that really is the bottom line!

[Eduard]

http://russian-brides-mail-order.ru/women/the-best-way-to-meet-women.html

Scroll down.

Now Ed, a simple question.

Do you keep them honest and tell them they have no chance in hell or do you say nothing?

who is "them"?

[Muzh]

There has been a lot of discussion on these fora concerning how some WM are delusional because they feel that they can get a hot young gorgeous RW even if they themselves are old and overweight. I'd say that in most cases they are...
Interestingly enough I've been noticing that[/color] FSU women are not immunized to this affliction[/b]! For instance I'm working with a very good looking, very tall (190cm and women LOVE tall!) guy. Obviously we have no problem getting the most beautiful women to respond (I'm talking 9s and 10s). But what is surprising that [/color]he gets so many winks, messages and comments from older, overweight and unattractive women [/b]who should know that they have no chance in hell with this guy. So me thinks women can be just as bad as men when it comes to "Unrealistic expectations"!
Ed

I guess that's "them."

[Steamer]

There has been a lot of discussion on these fora concerning how some WM are delusional because they feel that they can get a hot young gorgeous RW even if they themselves are old and overweight. I'd say that in most cases they are...

I know this will be considered heresy, but I believe that men are actually the more romantic sorts and women are the more calculating hunters. I've seen more "Doe Eyed" men then I have women!

[Eduard]

I guess that's "them."

As far as my clients {WM} are concerned off course I coach them. If I see that a man has completely unrealistic expectations and he won't make adjustments to his criteria I simply won't accept him as a client. But generally my advice is that a WM can date and marry a RW who is a couple of steps above of the type of woman he can date locally. For instance if a man dates a "5" here in the US he can easily date a 6 or a 7 in the FSU. However if he wants to find a 9 or a 10 I will advise him that in my experience his expectations are not very realistic.


If you are asking whether I give a "talk" to unattractive FSU women who contact my attractive WM clients, off course I don't. It would be silly and a waste of time IMO.