After a little experience, but still a long way from "MARRIAGE"

[Ranetka]

Although I do not have anyone on ignore there are posters here I made a decision not to comment to. As opinions are so different there is no ground for discussion. Plus I am absolutely sure same very posters are not interested in my opinions whatsoever. (mutual repulsion I guess).


It's a pity pitbull is leaving, someone else I have high respect for stopped posting here as well.  Not sure how long I will last; I do not think I will be missed by many anyway lol.

[GoodOlBoy]

Not sure how long I will last; I do not think I will be missed by many anyway lol.

Ranetka, you are a valued member here at RWD.
You would be missed a lot.
 
GOB

[Gator]

Not sure how long I will last; I do not think I will be missed by many anyway lol.

Perish the thought, please.  You combine politeness and insightfulness....plus a woman's touch.

[Jumper]

Ranetka-


I think you (and many other of the RW members)  often give a much needed balanced viewpoint. Normally it is right to the core of the matter (which is a good Russian  trait)


The others that have left cause a big loss to readers here , whether they realize it or not, and whether they agree with the opinions expressed or not.


To me its pretty simple:
If a western man, looking for a Russian woman, can't generally find something useful in the opinions expressed by RW here, (even if he doesn't agree with them )
then he really should think about his choices.

[Muzh]

To me its pretty simple:
If a western man, looking for a Russian woman, can't generally find something useful in the opinions expressed by RW here, (even if he doesn't agree with them )
then he really should think about his choices.

This should be posted right under the top icon that has the "RussianWomenDiscussion.com" for everyone to see, ESPECIALLY the noobs.

[GoodOlBoy]

If a western man, looking for a Russian woman, can't generally find something useful in the opinions expressed by RW here, (even if he doesn't agree with them )
then he really should think about his choices.

I completely agree with this.
 
If you can't get along/respect a Russian Woman and her opinions here on RWD then don't bother going to the FSU.

Seriously.
 
GOB

[CanadaMan]

It's a pity pitbull is leaving, someone else I have high respect for stopped posting here as well.  Not sure how long I will last; I do not think I will be missed by many anyway lol.

I hope pitbull will change her mind and stay.
I would miss you if you left the forum Ranetka.

[CanadaMan]

If I honestly express my disgust to things you say, would that be a frank discussion?

You seem to believe that because you have traveled to 2nd and 3rd world countries meeting young and impoverished girls on the guise of looking for "the one to marry" you feel you have acquired this "worldly" status among your peers.

I'll let you in a little secret.

You can put lipstick and pearls on a pig and it will still be a pig.

Muzh has got this thing down pat.
He's an expert at circumventing the TOS, legally! 

[Daveman]

Although I do not have anyone on ignore there are posters here I made a decision not to comment to. As opinions are so different there is no ground for discussion. Plus I am absolutely sure same very posters are not interested in my opinions whatsoever. (mutual repulsion I guess).

And that is a problem which doesn't have a real solution.  A forum such as this has a very diverse membership.  Some members will be polar opposites and can rarely seem to find a common ground.  Some members believe the forum should pretty much be his or her way and that others have no right to post here and by god the mods should make it that way. And then there are all colors and shades of the spectrum up to "agreement and friends".  That's a cross section of life, isn't it?


People always come and go.. some stay a short while and some longer.  That's life also.  I'd prefer no one ever leave, everyone would respect each other and accept that there are differences and... WHAP!  damn, there is that reality thing..


This forum is what YOU make your little part of it.  You are responsible for your part -- how you perceive it and what you bring to it.  (not just you, Ranetka, you meaning everyone).


Anyway, you're a treasure... relax and stay a while... 

[Ranetka]

Thank you very much guys, I never thought I was popular, I am touched.

[ML]

Ranetka and other females who post here.

Years ago, these discussion boards started out with almost entirely male participants.  In many way, that was perfect for an exchange of ideas and experiences by men for men.

But there are two major groupings of WM.  One is historical man and the other are the pussy whipped modern men.  These latter men revel in the idea that they are sensitive and in close contact with their female side.  On a superficial level, women adore these pussy whipped men.  In fact, one female even posted her favorite list of such men here some time ago.

Gradually, over the years, women began to locate these previously male dominated boards and participate.  The PW men are more than happy to grovel at the feet of virtually ANY woman and proclaim how valuable it is to hear the woman's point of view, no matter how totally stupid and illogical the woman's comments may be.

Now, take  a look at the boards that were originated by women for women.  These boards do not welcome a man, unless this man is totally feminized.  These boards will not tolerate for a second a historical man.  There is no groveling by the women on these boards to hear the 'valuable input' of a man.

Most here will think I am out to discourage women from participating on this board.   But that is far from accurate.

My point is for the females here to think about the unreal and exalted position they enjoy here, for the most part, which is the exact opposite of the position a man would occupy on a board dominated by females.

This exalted position, continually fed by the PW men here (which feeding will soon be forthcoming in humongous volume), gives the females a false sense of their importance, intelligence, and point of view which, in turn, causes them great anguish when the groveling is not forthcoming by certain posters.

In short, in many ways, the atmosphere here is unreal for females.  It can be like a roller coaster with its resulting highs and lows.  And, of course, the roller coaster can lead to nausea, which many (of both genders) will certainly feel after reading this.

[Ranetka]

Ranetka and other females who post here.


... gives the females a false sense of their importance, intelligence....

Thanks for the reminder.

[Shadow]

ML, just let me say you could not be more wrong in your perception.
Which is typicla of a wannabe-alpha male.

[GoodOlBoy]

Ranetka and other females who post here.

..... gives the females a false sense of their importance, intelligence, and point of view

Thanks for the reminder.

Ranetka, I am totally aghast that any poster would be allowed to address you (specifically) and the rest of the RW here on RWD in such a manner.
 
I am really speechless. 
 
GOB

[Ranetka]

 
Ranetka, I am totally aghast that any poster would be allowed to address you (specifically) and the rest of the RW here on RWD in such a manner.
 
I am really speechless. 
 
GOB

Gender wars, innit? A shame a (happily) settled man would feel this way.


The idea that women's position here on RWD is privileged  comparing to anywhere else in the internet is pure bullshevism, sorry.
Is it bad for a male on female board, this is not of my concern, please deal with it yourself.


The rest of the post I am not going to address; to so I would have to go into previous posts. This is ML's view of the world, fair enough.

[ML]

Thanks for the reminder.

Read carefully.  I never said you (or any woman) were not intelligent, important or without a (valid) point of view.

I said the PW men here give you and other women a false (very inflated) sense of these qualities.  This makes the landing more harsh.

But, of course, everyone knew how my words would be interpreted and twisted.

[IAmZon]

Read carefully.  I never said you (or any woman) were not intelligent, important or without a (valid) point of view.

I have to say YEP on ML's post about men here looking for a little bit of "locker room" talk (not NECESSARILY intended to be offensive to females!!!!).  Then there are men here that are trying to get a little too in touch with their female side - the male apologists (OH, RIGHT! Slavic women find THAT attractive:)

I talk here, primarily, as if I was in a group of men.  Which is different than how I talk, primarily, when I am in a group of women.  This does not make me 2 faced.  It makes me correctly sensitive and polite:)

There is a tendency here for members to categorize and label each other.  Hell, I have been posting here for 4 - 5 years!  I have gone through several incarnations during that time HAHAHA  I am sure that many of my original posts came off as naive and PW.  Now, I have the opposite problem.

THE OBSERVATIONS I MADE earlier in this thread, and elsewhere, regarding shifts in gender roles and how these differ substantially from 1st to 2nd world countries are not my arguments or preferences.  They are my observations.  Similar statements and essays have been published in The Atlantic, The Economist, and The Wall Street Journal over the last 3 years.

I would certainly PREFER an more equal relationship, PERSONALLY. However, I would also PREFER to be the man in the relationship also.  Normal, or the exception?

==  BTW ==

Many years ago, I READ this pages more than commented.  In those times I met several members from this board that have since become inactive.  My opinion of some of those older members could not be higher - AJ; Kuna; MichealAngelo; Groove ... all good solid guys that were adventures and looking for the most out of life.  I see new member here too that are cut from the same cloth, NewJason and others.  I have not paid too much attention of the women (except I could not help to notice that Miss A. would gladly burn me at the stake given the chance).  However, I have found several of the women here to have the very sound thoughts and good intentions.  ( I would accept Bo's advise over almost any other). I have found that many of the most active men tend to be a little light in the loafers nowadays:)

[Ranetka]

Read carefully.  I never said you (or any woman) were not intelligent, important or without a (valid) point of view.

I said the PW men here give you and other women a false (very inflated) sense of these qualities.  This makes the landing more harsh.

But, of course, everyone knew how my words would be interpreted and twisted.

What landing? I do not understand the point you are trying to make. I understand you are saying (some) men treat me favorably because I am a woman. May be they do, may be they just share my point of view regardless of gender (ever considered this opportunity?); what difference does it make for me or you ?
It's internet and my life otherwise has no connection to MOB whatsoever. [size=78%]How does it apply to my real life, what kind of attitude adjustment  should I make and why? [/size]

[ML]

What landing? I do not understand the point you are trying to make. I understand you are saying (some) men treat me favorably because I am a woman. May be they do, may be they just share my point of view regardless of gender (ever considered this opportunity?); what difference does it make for me or you ?
It's internet and my life otherwise has no connection to MOB whatsoever. [size=78%]How does it apply to my real life, what kind of attitude adjustment  should I make and why? [/size]

Ranetka, I used your name in my first post of this sub-thread because you had made reference to Pitbull's situation.

She said:  "Since this sort of narrative is condoned by the board, I no longer wish to be associated with the place.  Will delete my profile shortly."

This is an example of what I meant by 'harsh landing.'

This harsh landing came not just from what she didn't like to hear from a poster; but even more because she did not see the PW men come rushing to defend.  i.e. They 'condoned' it because no ass kissing to her and other females occurred, at least not soon enough to satisfy her.

Well sure I understand many (most) of the men here share your point of view.  You could do a little research and list the number of times any man disagreed with you compared to the times you got some compliments.  Then use a little logic and ask yourself:  Wow, isn't that amazing?

Attitude adjustment:  I don't know that any is necessary in your real life.  Probably none.  I know none needed in my life as I am perfect (or nearly so).     Just ask my Mother or my Gal.  And if my Gal disagreed, well I would tie her to a tree or something until she attained the correct view.

Speaking of whom . . . I sent her out to do a days worth of physical labor without any breakfast, so I need to go sit outdoors now, drink a beer and watch that she is proceeding with due haste.

[Ranetka]

Ranetka and other females who post here.



My point is for the females here to think about the unreal and exalted position they enjoy here.

When someone says "think about..." it normally means that they think they see something I don't and when I think about ......I will come to the same conclusion they have already arrived to.


One conclusion can easily be seen from your post is that you do not want women do be posting here. You already said this is not the case, OK, accepted. So what is another conclusion then?


Just spell it out for me, will you.

[Muzh]

Ranetka and other females who post here.

Years ago, these discussion boards started out with almost entirely male participants.  In many way, that was perfect for an exchange of ideas and experiences by men for men.

But there are two major groupings of WM.  One is historical man and the other are the pussy whipped modern men.  These latter men revel in the idea that they are sensitive and in close contact with their female side.  On a superficial level, women adore these pussy whipped men.  In fact, one female even posted her favorite list of such men here some time ago.

Gradually, over the years, women began to locate these previously male dominated boards and participate.  The PW men are more than happy to grovel at the feet of virtually ANY woman and proclaim how valuable it is to hear the woman's point of view, no matter how totally stupid and illogical the woman's comments may be.

Now, take  a look at the boards that were originated by women for women.  These boards do not welcome a man, unless this man is totally feminized.  These boards will not tolerate for a second a historical man.  There is no groveling by the women on these boards to hear the 'valuable input' of a man.

Most here will think I am out to discourage women from participating on this board.   But that is far from accurate.

My point is for the females here to think about the unreal and exalted position they enjoy here, for the most part, which is the exact opposite of the position a man would occupy on a board dominated by females.

This exalted position, continually fed by the PW men here (which feeding will soon be forthcoming in humongous volume), gives the females a false sense of their importance, intelligence, and point of view which, in turn, causes them great anguish when the groveling is not forthcoming by certain posters.

In short, in many ways, the atmosphere here is unreal for females.  It can be like a roller coaster with its resulting highs and lows.  And, of course, the roller coaster can lead to nausea, which many (of both genders) will certainly feel after reading this.

LMFAO


Besides a good laugh, what's your point??   


I haven't heard so much Kakashka (aka bullshevism) put together in a long time.


Okay, another one who need to be educated.


ML, it is very simple. There are MEN who love women and would do anything to please them. I am one of them. All through my life I have loved women, lots of them. I KNOW I received the same in return. It is bliss.


THIS is what you call being pussy-whipped.


You can call me pussy-whipped any time. Seriously, you can.



Tsk, Tsk


It is TOO BAD you will never experience this bliss. You are under the sad impression that women can fall in love with misogynists and you have no idea how wrong you are.


Regarding what is your opinion of the "sensitive" man.


First, I take them opinions from where they are coming from. You would never be able to insult me (attention Mods!) by calling me pussy-whipped.


Second, the women who will judge me are whose opinion really matter. I would seriously listen to what they have to say. After all, I was looking for a soulmate and found one.


Sorry, I'm not going to tell you how that feels, you'll never be able to understand.


Just keep being the "tough" guy. More women for the "sensitive" guy.


BTW, would you be able to recognize a tough guy? Seriously?

[LiveFromUkraine]

ML, it is very simple. There are MEN who love women and would do anything to please them. I am one of them. All through my life I have loved women, lots of them. I KNOW I received the same in return. It is bliss.


THIS is what you call being pussy-whipped.


You can call me pussy-whipped any time. Seriously, you can.

You get bliss from kissing the ass of women you never met on a message forum?

First, I take them opinions from where they are coming from. You would never be able to insult me (attention Mods!) by calling me pussy-whipped.

heh  Saying ML can't hurt you and then calling the mods in the same sentence is pretty damn funny.

[Daveman]

 
Ranetka, I am totally aghast that any poster would be allowed to address you (specifically) and the rest of the RW here on RWD in such a manner.
 
I am really speechless. 
 
GOB

I don't believe that... 


The post in question may be perceived in a variety of ways.  It is not a violation of the ToS.. however, anyone may respond with counter points to the content of the post as is happening.  I point you back to my post upthread about RWD's official position.  Attack the post all you want. The problem, which is being discussed elsewhere, is when the attacks inevitably turn to the poster.  Let's see how many address the post and how many address the poster.  Should be an interesting test case.

[Daveman]

You get bliss from kissing the ass of women you never met on a message forum?

If what is posted is true, then it isn't ass kissing.  I think Ranetka is a treasure.  Statement of personal opinion.  Just because someone has a favorable opinion of a woman here or anywhere) doesn't necessarily mean he's kissing her ass.

[Ranetka]

You get bliss from kissing the ass of women you never met on a message forum?

For a man it's better to kiss a woman's ass than that of another man. You may disagree.