After a little experience, but still a long way from "MARRIAGE"

[Muzh]

If a woman wants to act like a man, and allow guys to bail her out when she is called out then I don't want to act in a gentlemanly manner.  I just want to get away from her and any problems she is causing.


I have seen women called out for bad behavior and guys coming to their rescue.  That is what I don't understand.

I will keep pestering you until you give me examples of women's "bad behavior." Your last sentence would be a good place to start.


Until then, you are not looking that good.

[LiveFromUkraine]

I will keep pestering you until you give me examples of women's "bad behavior." Your last sentence would be a good place to start.


Until then, you are not looking that good.

Am I suppose to care how you think I look?

[GoodOlBoy]

I will keep pestering you until you give me examples of women's "bad behavior."

From his previous posts Muzh, I would probably say "allowing" yourself to get smacked around and choked by your husband. 
 
GOB

[LiveFromUkraine]

From his previous posts Muzh, I would probably say "allowing" yourself to get smacked around and choked by your husband. 
 
GOB

Says the guy who admits to pushing his "late" wife around. 

[GoodOlBoy]

Glad you finally learned how to state that correctly (with a correction).
 
GOB

[Muzh]

Am I suppose to care how you think I look?

Dude, you are the one who has to live with yourself. So you are absolutely correct.


All I know now is not to waste bandwidth with you.


But to answer your question, if you didn't care, you wouldn't be defending yourself. Think about that, son.

[LiveFromUkraine]

Dude, you are the one who has to live with yourself. So you are absolutely correct.


All I know now is not to waste bandwidth with you.


But to answer your question, if you didn't care, you wouldn't be defending yourself. Think about that, son.

lol  Answering a question asked by Dave, who was interested in my opinion, was defending myself? 


I sometimes wonder what is in your head that allows you to twist reality in such a way. 


Sorry, I already have a father but thanks for the fatherly advice, dad.   

[GoodOlBoy]

I will keep pestering you until you give me examples of women's "bad behavior."

Of course the other example may be picking up a drinking glass?? 
 
GOB

[Gator]

Currently  I am flipping between college football and the Ryder Cup, and I am not following this discussion well, so pardon me if my timing is bad.  However, I logged in and feel compelled to write something.
 
I attempt to read every post by a RW.  I welcome women at RWD because my purpose here is to understand everything about women, Russian women.  Many opinions expressed by women here have helped me with my dates and relationships.
 
Every woman here is different.   As I read their posts, I sometimes think, "She is an interesting person."   At other times I feel grateful that I never met Miss "So and so."   Yet, I still respect their right to express an opinion.
 
In life I find the company of men, not women,  more pleasant.  I can discuss golf, football, investing, warped humor, etc. Few women want to talk about such.   I don't believe this  makes me a misogynist, yet I imagine a couple of RW now possess that opinion of me. 
 
It is good when people feel passionate about an issue.  Nevertheless, it goes too far if that includes  nit picking quickly written statements, defaming people's character without knowing that much about them, claiming conspiracies, ...  Yet I have been there myself or close to it. 

[Daveman]

...I still respect their right to express an opinion.
 ..

Agreed.  yet, the right to express an opinion here is, and should be, limited. 


I don't want to remove a woman's freedom of speech










_{though sometimes I really really really wish they had less freedom of volume!}

[Muzh]

lol  Answering a question asked by Dave, who was interested in my opinion, was defending myself? 


I sometimes wonder what is in your head that allows you to twist reality in such a way. 


Sorry, I already have a father but thanks for the fatherly advice, dad.   

I've heard better deflections from my 10 year old.


Oh boy.

[GoodOlBoy]

Many RW are proud and a bit too easily offended.

I agree completely with you Jumper.
And I think anyone married to a RW knows this statement is true.
 
GOB

[Daveman]

I agree completely with you Jumper.
And I think anyone married to a RW knows this statement is true.
 
GOB

I agree number three. Though sometimes I think they only pretend to be.  It's a funky little game they play sometimes.  But, we can't let 'em know we're onto it...

[Muzh]

I agree number three. Though sometimes I think they only pretend to be.  It's a funky little game they play sometimes.  But, we can't let 'em know we're onto it...

Shhh

LOL

[Gator]

Many RW are proud and a bit too easily offended. That theme is repeated  in real life and here....

I will join the long line of men agreeing with this.  I recall 10 years ago, before RWD, when we talked about RW as being "short on cash but long on pride."
 
It is one of RW's many endearing qualities.  Life was particularly difficult in the FSU 10 years ago, yet I never met one RW who was sad.  Most said "such is life" while preparing for the evening as if they were meeting the Queen of England.  The only RW who talked about difficulties in her life was probably a scammer trying to get a man to  feel sorry for her and play white knight.  Only after getting close to a RW would she confide her situation.
 
I will now be criticized for being disrespectful of women, or worse a misogynist.

[Eduard]

  Life was particularly difficult in the FSU 10 years ago, yet I never met one RW who was sad.  Most said "such is life" while preparing for the evening as if they were meeting the Queen of England.  The only RW who talked about difficulties in her life was probably a scammer trying to get a man to  feel sorry for her and play white knight.  Only after getting close to a RW would she confide her situation.

[size=78%]Very true![/size]

[Muzh]

 
It is one of RW's many endearing qualities.  Life was particularly difficult in the FSU 10 years ago, yet I never met one RW who was sad.  Most said "such is life" while preparing for the evening as if they were meeting the Queen of England.  The only RW who talked about difficulties in her life was probably a scammer trying to get a man to  feel sorry for her and play white knight.  Only after getting close to a RW would she confide her situation.

Absolutely. Very accurate.

 

I will now be criticized for being disrespectful of women, or worse a misogynist.

You know very well this was not what they were referring to.

[Misha]

It is one of RW's many endearing qualities.  Life was particularly difficult in the FSU 10 years ago, yet I never met one RW who was sad.  Most said "such is life" while preparing for the evening as if they were meeting the Queen of England.  The only RW who talked about difficulties in her life was probably a scammer trying to get a man to  feel sorry for her and play white knight.  Only after getting close to a RW would she confide her situation.
 
I will now be criticized for being disrespectful of women, or worse a misogynist.

Actually, that sounds about right and RM would not have complained either IMHO.

[Jumper]

I agree number three. Though sometimes I think they only pretend to be.  It's a funky little game they play sometimes.  But, we can't let 'em know we're onto it...

For what its worth, it was a general statement,not aimed at anyone,  and sounds a bit different out of context.

I have a rather goofy  sense of humor and that can seemingly easily offend a certain  percentage of RW. So that's an uphill battle to simply *be yourself*,(I mean who else can you be afterall? )  when yourself can so easily offend lol
Frankly it wasnt something 'id routinely run into in other cultures.
Reality is i'm likely not compatible in general with Russian women initially.
After some trust is established then the issue isn't there.
Its just not something i'd genrally have to get past in a different cultural setting though,but found it a routine hurdle there, or more topic related: in written text / email /forum

 

[GQBlues]

... 
It is one of RW's many endearing qualities.  Life was particularly difficult in the FSU 10 years ago, yet I never met one RW who was sad.  Most said "such is life" while preparing for the evening as if they were meeting the Queen of England.  The only RW who talked about difficulties in her life was probably a scammer trying to get a man to  feel sorry for her and play white knight.  Only after getting close to a RW would she confide her situation....

Giving an unbias view worldwide, can we not say this to be true to majority of women the world over whose society aren't as economically and/or culturally *favorably* liberal or progressive as they are in most western civilization? I can't help but think of Islamic societies for starters...

Just me as my violin sings the tunes for the world a plenty and isn't limited to the heritage of the woman I married.

[Gator]

Having dated seriously a couple of Iranian women, I would say the sense of personal pride is not the same.  One of the two women was a Communist and while strong willed, she did not have that strong air of pride.  The other a traditional women with a Western education.  It is a male dominated society to say the least, and this affected the women. 
 
 

[GQBlues]

My experience differs. I've dated women from countries that is almost represented in the UN. Give or take 15-20 countries. The Persian women I dated admittedly were of the *moderate*  kind being recently relocated to LA by way of Sweden and Germany. But even with these women I can't recite any lack of pride of self, country or heritage. Lebanese women more passionately, as with any SA/Asian women. Many in-countries. Looking back I would be mistaken if I said any of all those women fell short on pride of self or country if I had to compare any of them to all the Russian women I had ever met. No more, no less..as a whole.

Heck, for what it's worth, a Canadian woman I fell for before likely takes the cake if I'm pressed to choose one from the lot.

[Doll]

Okay,
so the official RWD position is "there is nothing offensive in this". Saying that providing education, choice and freedom to women degenerates a whole society and turns everyone into fat, lazy slobs?
There is just one logical step from this into "Let's take back their rights, including voting and education, and make them sit at home, make kids and serve their husbands. This will turn our society back on track".
Coupled with the persona of the OP.
Since this sort of narrative is condoned by the board, I no longer wish to be associated with the place.
Will delete my profile shortly.
Godd luck.

agree 100000000000000000%
will NOT feel like be a member anymore
Good luck to everybody anyway.
Irina

[IAmZon]

so the official RWD position is "there is nothing offensive in this". Saying that providing education, choice and freedom to women degenerates a whole society and turns everyone into fat, lazy slobs?

Interesting the affect of my ramblings have had on this place, especially the women here!  My original statement applied to BOTH genders, but that has been conveniently overlooked.

You know there is sometimes, and used to be more often, a "locker room" atmosphere here ... a coaching process that was male centric.  IMO, there was a pre-occupation with men getting SCAMMED.  Myself and others usually were hard on men saying "buyer beware" or "look in the mirror".  I do re-call that when woman did come to the forum, there was curiosity and interest (it is natural).

I do not know why woman would become active here - BUT, then again, I do not know why ANY OF US become active here. I have always felt that people ought take what they want / or can apply in their own lives; and leave what they do not like / or with which they disagree.

[Doll]

I don't care, Riv, it is all BS.
Good luck (you will need it). Stay in Colombia.
I really hope no FSU woman will be yours. I mean it.
Amen.