After a little experience, but still a long way from "MARRIAGE"

[IAmZon]

You know, I would first put industrial type rubber gloves before I shake your hands.

Do not compliment yourself ... you have shown nothing to me that would make me WANT to introduce myself to you, with gloves, or without.

You think that I RUN ENTERPRISES?!?!!?  SHHHH.  I am a terrible manager - I only do things that I am good at.

I do not intent to explain anything to you, because you are clearly content with an allusion you have created. 

[Daveman]

Well, it seems the door back in this direction has been opened, so let's run with it a bit.. let's just at least make the attempt to keep things civil...

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This client is beta testing new applications with PlayboyTV this month, and in-house LIVE casinos feeds  because THE DEMAND in the first worlds accommodate it.

Now then, I doubt this is the image you create in your mind, or the image that you WANT others to create in their minds.  You would prefer to imagine exactly WHAT ... and for WHAT purpose? 

I understand the concept of supply and demand.  However, sometimes the demand is met by nefarious means.  I have no problem with a woman choosing to do what she will with her own body, and making as much as she can by meeting that demand.  I have no problem with others facilitating such and making a profit from that facilitation.


The problem I do have is with the coercion which occurs.  Not making an accusation here.  There will also be the argument that because of the inequality a woman who wants to move upward must either marry (depending on a man) or turn to this line of work (depending upon multiple men) whereas if there were a level field of opportunity, many would not need to go in this direction.  So, in essence, it is all coercion whether physical or economic.


How would you respond to those?

[LiveFromUkraine]

I don’t think it’s because of the car culture..likely nutrition/processed food is the culprit.

Of course it is nutrition.  You can lose weight without exercise just by maintaining a calorie deficit.  I still wonder what factors are leading to the food selection.

If you guys can’t be as objective and honest online in front of, or with, men in the same suit as you, how the heck are you ever going to be honest with everyone else in your respective societies? More importantly your own wife?

It took me a few seconds to understand the lecture but do agree that it isn't very hard to find a woman, who is not fat, to date in the states. 

[IAmZon]

The problem I do have is with the coercion which occurs.  Not making an accusation here.  There will also be the argument that because of the inequality a woman who wants to move upward must either marry (depending on a man) or turn to this line of work (depending upon multiple men) whereas if there were a level field of opportunity, many would not need to go in this direction.  So, in essence, it is all coercion whether physical or economic.

What line of work are you referring to? The web cam studios I mentioned above? Those studios are clients of our law firm. They retain us to make ensure they are incomplete compliance with laws and regulations, and to stay on top or billing / payment issues. Our firm works with hundreds of production companies and web sites - most of which are based in USA, or Europe.  Which means that most of the performers / models are in the USA.  What type of coercion are these people victims of?

THE SAME COULD BE SAID ... for the coercion a woman may feel living in desperation, thus feeling compelled to seek a foreign husband.  In terms of stereotypes ... this is just as valid and as common. No?

[Gator]

I have limited time and do not know which topic in this thread should I address.
 
Nutrition:  there were no fat people among the survivors of Auschwitz.  Insensitive, yes, but starvation will work.  However, I belive it is best to both count calories and exercise (exercise keeps metabolism high, starvation slows metabolism).
 
Pride:  Pride has many definitions, pride of place, pride of achievement.  When I talk about RW and pride, I think of Scarlett O'Hara.  The film is popular in the FSU, and  RW have a remarkably high opinion of Scarlett.  Pride  as expressed in high self-esteem, dignity, not conceding, haughtiness.....

Coercing economically disadvatanged women:  Not me, and shame on men who do it.  What is the difference between coercion and simply making an opportunity available?

Porn industry:  It exists because some men have no self-control, the same as many overweight people.

[Eduard]

Porn industry:  It exists because some men have no self-control, the same as many overweight people.

Phil, just curious, does this mean that: 1. men who are in control of themselves don't or can't enjoy porn? 2. There are no women who enjoy porn?

[GQBlues]

Of course it is nutrition.  You can lose weight without exercise just by maintaining a calorie deficit.  I still wonder what factors are leading to the food selection.

Easy accessibility to junk/comfort food. Bad Parenting ~ slapping high carbo/high sugar goodies to silence kids. Besides, processed foods are far more attractive to eat than say, fresh vegetables or even fruits. The old adage, "It's not so much what you eat, but what you do with what you ate.", rings very true....

...It took me a few seconds to understand the lecture but do agree that it isn't very hard to find a woman, who is not fat, to date in the states.

The graph below is staggering...

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe_in_wom-health-obesity-in-women

I thought if there ever was a high concentration of good looking women, it would be either Czech/Slovakia. Looking at the graph, it reports 25% of Slovak women are 'obese'. Makes one wonder then how come Slovak men (Czech) aren't going to Ukraine/Russia in hordes and busloads looking for wives? The likely answer to that is, 75% of their women are not obese...

[GoodOlBoy]

Tah-Dah... Porky the news anchor from Wisconsin:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rUOpqd0rQSo
 
GOB
 
BTW.... My local weather lady:
 

 

[Faux Pas]

I thought if there ever was a high concentration of good looking women, it would be either Czech/Slovakia. Looking at the graph, it reports 25% of Slovak women are 'obese'. Makes one wonder then how come Slovak men (Czech) aren't going to Ukraine/Russia in hordes and busloads looking for wives? The likely answer to that is, 75% of their women are not obese...

Actually, a good friend of mine is a Czech and ironically enough is married to an AW. As you might can imagine he and I have had many of discussions about women from various countries seemingly ad nausea . He's convinced there's no difference in EE women and AW in looks, style or weight. He has significant ground time in Russia, Ukraine and Poland as well.

[Eduard]

Actually, a good friend of mine is a Czech and ironically enough is married to an AW. As you might can imagine he and I have had many of discussions about women from various countries seemingly ad nausea . He's convinced there's no difference in EE women and AW in looks, style or weight. He has significant ground time in Russia, Ukraine and Poland as well.

IMO the difference is nothing less but striking, but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder and maybe your friend and I just have a very different taste in women.

[IAmZon]

He's convinced there's no difference in EE women and AW in looks, style or weight. He has significant ground time in Russia, Ukraine and Poland as well.

It's the same genetics, but diet and exercise makes a HUGE difference ... plus the near universal tendency for women to dress more feminine (sexy) in EE.

[Shadow]

It's the same genetics, but diet and exercise makes a HUGE difference ... plus the near universal tendency for women to dress more feminine (sexy) in EE.

That is not a universal tendency, but just fashion....

[ML]

... plus the near universal tendency for women to dress more feminine (sexy) in EE.

So, in the nude . . . everything would be pretty much the same.

[IAmZon]

 - locker room talk -

NOPE!  Not really.

I dated a couple women in the USA over the last couple months ... but, it just lacks color.   there is the immature thing; the butler thing; the entitlement thing ... plus, the age gaps works for casual, but not for serious.

I even tried online dating in the USA.  HAHAHA  I knew something was wrong when I could not search by height and weight!!!  The women who have contacted me ... I have to wince when I look at the photos as if I am getting punched in the solorplexes.  It is opposite world to the life I am familiar. 

- end locker room talk -

[Faux Pas]

IMO the difference is nothing less but striking, but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder and maybe your friend and I just have a very different taste in women.

I guess it's too bad Eduard that it doesn't dovetail with the wares you try to peddle but it is only one man's opinion. I've known this guy for 15 years, conferred with him before and after I ever went to the FSU. He thought I was wasting time and money. Maybe he was right, may be wasn't. It is the opinion of a FSUM that has been on both sides of the spectrum. There is some truth to it for those willing to see it. IMHO, the women are different (that's his too) but it is mostly just on the surface. Anything deeper and they are women, like all other women. The same as we men.

Those that don't wish to see it probably are not looking hard/deep enough, unwilling to do so or unable.

[Slumba]

I guess it's too bad Eduard that it doesn't dovetail with the wares you try to peddle but it is only one man's opinion. I've known this guy for 15 years, conferred with him before and after I ever went to the FSU. He thought I was wasting time and money. Maybe he was right, may be wasn't. It is the opinion of a FSUM that has been on both sides of the spectrum. There is some truth to it for those willing to see it. IMHO, the women are different (that's his too) but it is mostly just on the surface. Anything deeper and they are women, like all other women. The same as we men.

Those that don't wish to see it probably are not looking hard/deep enough, unwilling to do so or unable.

Hmm... one man's opinion, vs. another man's opinion.  Both are FSUM, both have dated or married both Western and FSU women.

So why not go to Gambia or other parts of Africa then?  They will be exactly the same as Russian and American  women, right?

[Eduard]

I guess it's too bad Eduard that it doesn't dovetail with the wares you try to peddle but it is only one man's opinion. I've known this guy for 15 years, conferred with him before and after I ever went to the FSU. He thought I was wasting time and money. Maybe he was right, may be wasn't. It is the opinion of a FSUM that has been on both sides of the spectrum. There is some truth to it for those willing to see it. IMHO, the women are different (that's his too) but it is mostly just on the surface. Anything deeper and they are women, like all other women. The same as we men.

Those that don't wish to see it probably are not looking hard/deep enough, unwilling to do so or unable.

I've always said that people are people everywhere and that other than some cultural differences women basically are the same the world over. That's not the issue here.

[Shadow]

- locker room talk -

NOPE!  Not really.

I dated a couple women in the USA over the last couple months ... but, it just lacks color.   there is the immature thing; the butler thing; the entitlement thing ... plus, the age gaps works for casual, but not for serious.

I even tried online dating in the USA.  HAHAHA  I knew something was wrong when I could not search by height and weight!!!  The women who have contacted me ... I have to wince when I look at the photos as if I am getting punched in the solorplexes.  It is opposite world to the life I am familiar. 

- end locker room talk -

Looks will change, what is inside will not.
You can take a wife and trade her for a newer model when she gets too old, problem is that prices on doing that go up faster as oil during a crisis in the Middle East.
If that is not your concern, go ahead.

[Faux Pas]

Hmm... one man's opinion, vs. another man's opinion.  Both are FSUM, both have dated or married both Western and FSU women.

So why not go to Gambia or other parts of Africa then?  They will be exactly the same as Russian and American  women, right?

By all means, go find you a woman in Africa and form your own opinion. Maybe some of those babes with a ring through the nose will be quite sexy for you

[GQBlues]

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BTW.... My local weather lady:

She's a cutie but you know no one can bring sunshine in my weather forecast than my personal weather forecaster. LA's the place..




 

[Eduard]

She's a cutie but you know no one can bring sunshine in my weather forecast than my personal weather forecaster. LA's the place..




 

Here in Tampa Bay I rarely see women with her looks, on the other hand I see tonnes of them in Moscow.

[Muzh]

Ed, I suggest you stop referring St. Pete as Tampa. You want to see even hotter? Go to Clearwater.


BUT, don't tell me you cannot find a hot looking babe in Tampa or Clearwater.

[Hammer2722]

Ed, I suggest you stop referring St. Pete as Tampa. You want to see even hotter? Go to Clearwater.


BUT, don't tell me you cannot find a hot looking babe in Tampa or Clearwater.

I agree with this. Half of my family lives in Tampa and every time I travel there, I do see some hot girls but for the most part, most will be located at the beaches.

[Eduard]

crap, I really should start making videos of local scenery 

[Brillynt]

Ed, I think if you are in Tampa proper the scenery is better. If you live outside of Tampa/St Pete/Clearwater, then not so much. I know where I live, about an hour north of Tampa, it is very poor scenery.