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« on: March 31, 2006, 10:53:53 AM »
Here is an interesting scam.
 
I won't drag this out over weeks but will summerize in two post's here the long and short of this particular scam.
 
Beautiful woman writes Guber. She really likes Guber.
Guber tells her he would like to meet her, he will be in Lugansk next month and prefers not to write so much but would rather meet.
 
Beautiful Elena says it is disappointing he does not want to write and get to know her better.
 
Finally after the first three letters the scam agency writes and indicates it's time to start paying for Elena's translation services.
 
Guber sends agency an e-mail in Russian, with a letter to Elena in Russian and says no need to pay for translation, here is letter to Elena already translated, can they give to her next time Elena is in the office.
 
The agency writes back,....
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elenita77" <elenita77@mail.ru>
To: "Guber"
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:05 AM
Subject: information


> Dear Guber,
>
> We  are sorry but we are not a marriage agency. We are the translation
> company and we do not pass any letters, we do not have this service.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Danilo Eshkovich
> "WIC_2004"
> Director
 
 
So Guber writes agency and ask's them how much will it cost for then to translate a letter which they will now give to Elena. The agency will deliver a letter that they translate but will not deliver a letter that is already translated because they are not a marriage agency. I'm still trying to figure that one out.
 
So scam agency sends price list, $200 a month for this, $300 a month for that, $6 for a single letter.
 
A few days pass and on March 23rd the scam agency says "Guber, what's up, don't you like Elena?  She is always asking about you, she misses you".
 
Guber writes the agency the same day and says he is going to hand deliver $6 to the agency so they will give Elena the letter. What is the address we deliver this letter to.
 
And wouldn't you know it, on the 23rd of March Elena has GREAT interest in Guber but by the 26th Elena has found someone new.
 
Seems these scam agencies don't want to give an address were we can hand deliver money to.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2006, 10:56:01 AM »
Here are the letters from the lovely Elena.
 
I swear those look like American bought ci-ci's that Elena has.
 
 
 
 
First letter
 
Hello dear !

How  are you today? I am glad to begin our communication. I can't help
wondering  how we could meet! I was very glad to have your interest in
me  and  I  want our friendship to be pleasant for both of us and grow
into  strong  friendship.  What do you think? Though we are now so far
away  from  each  other  I  hope  it  will  not  affect the warmth and
tenderness  of  our  letters.  What  do  people  want?  A  loving  and
understanding  soul  beside  them  to  convince them that they are not
alone  in  this  world.  What  do  you  like  to do best? What is your
favourite  pastime?  What  do you do when you are in your best mood? I
want  to  know  everything  about  you.  Let's make friends! I like an
active  way of life and I would like to meet a man of the same kind. I
work  as  an  accountant.  I  have  never  been married before. Do you
believe  in  love?  Did you use to love someone? I know I ask too many
questions for the first letter :)) That is because I'm excited to meet
you. I know time should pass till we get to know each other but I feel
that  I want it sooner. I can't wait. I asked you if you loved someone
because  love is the best feeling in the world. When you love you feel
happy  though  sometimes love can hurt. I want to love a man, a decent
man  who  can  make  me  happy and can love me in return with the same
strength.  I  want  to  give  all  myself  to  him and fulfill all his
desires,  be  his  mistress and best friend, caring mother and playful
child,  his  love  and  happiness in the whole world. I want to have a
family,  a  loving  husband  and  nice  children of our own. If he has
already  a child, I will do my best become his or her second mother. I
will appreciate all that he does for me, his love, attention and care.
I will never do any evil thing to him, will be sincere and frank, will
always  share  my feelings and thoughts and will gladly listen to what
you  want  to  say and share with me. Though I am an energetic person
I like romantic evenings for two with candles and wine, nice music,
talks about love.

I  would  like  to  tell  you  that  I do not speak English. I use the
services of a translator to write to you. It's so interesting that with
her  help  I  can  make  you  understand me and can share my ideas and
feelings with you and also understand what you will write to me. So,
if you are writing to me just for fun I would like to ask you not to
waste my time and money in vain. I am serious in finding someone.

I am waiting for your letter without patience.
Write to me to my e-mail address: [u" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">elenita77@mail.ru[/u].

Elena
 
 
 
Second letter
 
Hello Guber!

Thank you for your letter. I'm also very serious about finding a man
to have a family with. But I understand that I can meet any man in
Internet, including bad people and so on. I don't want to say that you
are one but as I do not know you I don't want to give my home address
to the unfamiliar person.

If you think that we can't correspond and get to know each other
better and then if we like it, we decide to meet and you come to my
city where we can see each other in person, then I think we shouldn't
waste each other's time. I pay for the translation of my letters and I
am not so rich to write just for fun.

Elena
 
 
 
Guber's reply
 
----- Original Message -----
From: ]
To: "Elenita77" <elenita77@mail.ru
>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: from Elena


> Elena, I agree with you.
>
> I would prefer to just meet.  What city do you live in?
> I can understand about not getting flat address. I think it should
> not be a problem to get your cell phone, yes?
>
>I can meet you in person, no problem.  If you are sincere to
>  meet me then I need to talk to you. If we can talk, we
> can meet. If I cannot talk to you on the phone then
> of course we cannot meet. It is your choice. 
> Please give me your cell, or flat phone and if you do
> not have your own cell or flat phone then please give me the
> number of a freind, relative or neighbor and tell me a good time
> to call.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Guber
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Third letter
 
 
Dear Guber,

Thank  you  for your letter. I live in Lugansk and I am flattered that
you  would  like  to come to meet me. I would like to talk to you very
much  on  the phone but I do not have the home phone and I do not have
cell  phone  either.  Please understand me that I do not want to ask a
friend  or  colleague  to  let me use their phone to receive your call
because  I  don't  want to tell them about you. Our correspondence and
acquaintance  with  you  are something private and intimate. They will
ask  questions... And I would prefer not to tell them about you before
anything  is  sure  between  you  and  me.  I don't want other people,
especially  girlfriends  to envy me if they find out that you call me.
And they will!
 
Phone   conversation   with   the  interpreter  is  available  at  the
translation  company,  of  course, but this service is less affordable
than  translation  of  the written letters for me and as I am not very
rich I choose what I could, I am sorry.

Even  if you call me on somebody's phone what will I understand? Maybe
I  will  be  able to understand only your name. What's the use of this
conversation?  I would like to understand what you say to me and I can
only afford translation of letters.

Guber,  you  can  inform me by e-mail when you come to see me. It's a pity you don't want to
get to know each other better by letters before you come.

Waiting to hear from you
Elena
 
 
Fourth letter, First from Agency
 
 
Dear Mr. Guber,

Your  correspondent  Miss  Elena  uses the translation services of our
company.  We  deal  with  translation  of  all sorts of scientific and
technical  literature, patent, technological, export, import and other
legal   documents.  Certifying  translation  adequacy.  Interpretation
during  negotiations,  assembly  work  and adjustment of equipment, as
well  as during conferences, workshops etc. The name of our company is
"World Interpreters Company". Miss Elena has been totally satisfied by
our  work  but  she  had  to  stop  her  payments due to her difficult
financial  situation. If you want to continue your correspondence with
Miss  Elena  and can take care of the cost of the translation services
we will be glad to help you. You are welcome to contact us and we will
be glad to inform you about the conditions of our collaboration.

Regards,

Danilo Eshkovich
"WIC_2004"
Director


 
 
Fifth letter, second from agency
 
Dear Sir,

Thank  you for your mail. We will be glad to give you our best service
and   to  help  you  continue  your  correspondence  with  Miss  Elena
Goncharowa. From her side, she is interested in you very much.

Our services and prices for your perusal are as follows:

 -translation and printing of one letter - 6 USD
 -scanning of one photo -                  3 USD
 -printing of one photo -                  3 USD
 -phone call translation -      5 USD/10 minutes

If   you   are  interested  in  money-saving  propositions,  so-called
unlimited  correspondence  where  all the letters and all the pictures
you and your lady send are processed, the prices are as follows:

- one month unlimited correspondence - 210 USD
- two month unlimited correspondence - 350 USD

This  service  works  like this:

Your lady receives your letter translated and printed. She writes her
reply.  After being translated and printed we e-mail her reply to you.
We  notify  you  if  the letter is returned to us for any reason. When
your  account  is over we will send you a balance with detailed report
of your expenses.

You  can  make your payment through Western Union [u" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">www.westernunion.com[/u]
(the  Joint-stock  Company  ]representative  of  the  Western Union in Ukraine) to the name of your
Lady. So, you write in your document:

the name of receiver         ELENA GONCHAROWA
the TOWN                     LUHANSK
the address                  Sovetskaya, 63
zip code                     91055
country                      UKRAINE

You  can use also your credit card to send payment through the Western
Union  service. You can do it on-line on web site www.westernunion.com

only if you are from USA or Canada.

You   can   also   send  the  payment  through  the  MoneyGram  system
[u" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">www.moneygram.com[/u]  if  it  is  more  comfortable  for you. The payment
should  be  sent  to  Exim Bank, to the name of ELENA GONCHAROWA, your
correspondent, Ukraine.

As  soon as you make a payment, please, inform us with your full name,
country  you are from, the number of the transfer operation (MTCN) and
the  sum  you  sent.  With  Western Union MTCN has 10 figures and with
MoneyGram there are 8 of them.

We are open for your suggestions.

Sincerely,
Danilo Eshkovich
]Director

 
 
Sixth letter, third from the agency
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Elenita77" <elenita77@mail.ru
>
To: Guber
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:17 AM
Subject: information

> Dear Sir,
>
> Elena  asked  us  about you many times. She is very much interested in
> you  and  misses  your  letters very much. Are you still interested in
> her? What should we tell her about your correspondence?
>
> Regards,
>
> Danilo Eshkovich
> "WIC_2004"
> Director
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Guber's reply,......
 
 
----- Original Message -----


From: Guber
To: "Elenita77" <elenita77@mail.ru>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2006 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: information

> Hello Danilo,
>
> Miss Elena Goncharowa has indicated a great interest to meet me.
>
> I will be in Lugansk in three weeks and would like to get a letter to her.
>
> I have associates who work with me in Lugansk who are going to bring $6 to
> you so you will send this one letter to Elena.
>
> What is the address where I need to drop off this $6?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Guber

 
Last letter from agency
 
 
Dear Sir,

Thank  you  for  your mail. Unfortunately Miss Elena couldn't wait for
the  news  from you for so long and she has now met somebody else. She
wishes you best of luck.

Rgds,
Danilo


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2006, 11:02:22 AM »
 

(letter sent to scam agency)

 

Hello Danilo, this does not make sense.
 
On March 23 Elena ask's about me, she is interested in me and misses my letters.
 
 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Elenita77" <elenita77@mail.ru
>
To: ]
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:18 AM
Subject: information

> Dear Sir,
>
> Elena  asked  us  about you many times. She is very much interested in
> you  and  misses  your  letters very much. Are you still interested in
> her? What should we tell her about your correspondence?
>
> Regards,
>
> Danilo Eshkovich
> "WIC_2004"
> Director

 
 
On the SAME day I send you this e-mail,..
 

 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guber"
To: "Elenita77" <elenita77@mail.ru[/url]>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: information

> Hello Danilo,
>
> Yes, I want you to send a letter to Elena.
> I am going to hand deliver $6 to your office for you to send this letter to
> Elena.
> I need your office address.
> Thanks,
>
> Guber

 
 
 So the same day she says she misses me I write I am trying to send her a letter as I would like to meet her.
 
And you write me back three days later and tell's me she has found someone else. Seems that this Elena may not be such a good and sincere lady wouldn't you agree Ms. Danilo?
 
Guber
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----

From: "Elenita77" <elenita77@mail.ru>
To: "Guber"
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:14 AM
Subject: information


> Dear Sir,
>
> Thank  you  for  your mail. Unfortunately Miss Elena couldn't wait for
> the  news  from you for so long and she has now met somebody else. She
> wishes you best of luck.
>
> Rgds,
> Danilo

 
 
 
 
« Last Edit: March 31, 2006, 11:05:00 AM by Jack »

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2006, 12:26:34 PM »
You should consider yourself lucky that you were able to recognize this scam so fast. As to the girl... It's amazing how much make up can change the face!!!  And what happened to her on the second pic? Did she forgot to put on some top? Why does she wear only a bustier?


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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2006, 04:57:27 PM »
Jack, your tactics aren't working, even us hardened criminals want to send the 350 a month. She's quite pretty isn't she?

Dan, can we all club together?

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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2006, 05:18:37 PM »
Guys, I have a great proposal: I'll open agency, will find a bunch of nice pics. Promise, you'll love them!!! And you'll start send me money. You'll enjoy pics, and I'll enjoy your money. And everybody will be happy!!!
Gosh, I'm so smart!!! :D

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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2006, 02:04:47 AM »
Quote from: rose
Guys, I have a great proposal: I'll open agency, will find a bunch of nice pics. Promise, you'll love them!!! And you'll start send me money. You'll enjoy pics, and I'll enjoy your money. And everybody will be happy!!!
Gosh, I'm so smart!!! :D

Not really something new... We call so site a porno site... when you pay for see sexy or naked photo...

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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2006, 04:17:54 AM »
Jack - these threads are priceless & it just boggles the mind how many men actually fall for this bull. But then we all know that a lot of the Keyboard Romeo's are no better so they get exactly what they deserve. Its the guys who are really sincere in their search & put up hundreds of $'s to find the right lady that are the ones who get hurt in the end.

Kudo's & keep up the fine work!!! Perhaps the newbies will learn to recognize the A-Typical Scam & save themselves some money & heartache.

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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2006, 10:42:34 AM »
Heres what we do:

1. Start a dodgy agency

2. Scam loads of men

3. Invest the money wisely

4. Pay the scammee's back

5. Live at Richards place on whats left

Can we look at the finance aspects of this for the purposes of showing how many people are scamming and and how many are scammed?

How much real money is involved?

Ste

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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2006, 05:33:25 AM »
Steve I think you would be totally amazed at the amount of money that is involved!!!

I can't give you hard stats but I can give you an example of one agency that I was involved with, that is crooked as hell & I was on the inside looking out for a very short time.

They charge $5.00 per letter, both directions. On average guys were sending & receiving 5 letters per week. Thats $25.00 per guy per week which totals $100.00 per month. Doesn't seem like much does it? Now consider that that agency when I left had 200 plus clients writing letters & all of a sudden you are talking mega dollars. With a client base of only 200 guys it comes out to $20,000.00 per month or $240.000.00 per year. Not bad I'd say, & that is but a relatively small agency. Very big incentive for a company to write phoney letters to gullible clients knowing full well there is very little legaly that the client can do about it, especially if they are based in Russia. Why do you think Anistasiaweb moved their headquarters to Russia instead of staying in the US?

HRB boasts of having over 10,000 members & expenses that are astronomical. Just figure how much money they are making per month when their payroll for 1 month is $50,000.00 & up.

I don't know the exact figures but I am willing to bet that literally millions are involved & the sad part is for all those millions, very few are getting what they paid for.

By the way if ya'll are movin' in to my place I reckon I'd best start shoppin' for a bigger apartment!!! He!! maybe I best just get a whole building!!! LMAO:D

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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2006, 08:07:46 AM »
Quote from: Rvrwind
 He!! maybe I best just get a whole building!!! LMAO:D

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With those kinds of profits, might as well grab up a city block and as long as it's in the "company name" we can write it off as "operating expenses" :P.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2006, 09:48:01 AM »
GOOD NEWS/bad news!
 
 
First, the good news!!!!  As you recall two weeks ago Guber learned that his Elena had found someone new. One day Elena had great interest in Guber, Guber tried to pay the agency $6 to send a letter to Elena but when Guber told Director Daniloa Eshkovich he was trying to hand deliver the money to her address, then lovely Elena suddenly became unavailable. As Danilo told Guber, she "had found someone else".
 
Well GOOD NEWS to you guys who were attracted to the lovely Elena. She's AVAILABLE again. Guber just received e-mail from Danilo saying that Elena was now available again.
 
 
And oh, yes.......the bad news. 
 
Yes, their is some bad news. Danilo had to inform Guber that the lovely Elena no longer has interest in Guber.   :(    The lovely Elena, or Danilo, has read of these post's on the RWD and Elena knows that Guber is not a sincere man, so Elena is no longer interested in him, but she is available again!!!
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elenita77" <elenita77@mail.ru>
To: "Guber"
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 6:23 AM
Subject: information

> Hello Guber,
>
> We  got  your  letter.  We  are  sorry  to  inform you that Miss Elena
> Goncharowa  is  no  longer interested in you and she doesn't need your
> letter.  She  realised  that  you are not serious about her and she is
> continuing her search.
>
> Regards,
>
> Danilo

 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guber"
To: "Elenita77" <elenita77@mail.ru>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: Fw: information


> Hello Danilo,
>
> It is good news to hear that the beautiful and sincere Elena is now
> available again. Only two weeks ago you told me she had found someone

> new. I  was surprised that a lady who had such a real and sincere interest in
> me all of a sudden had found someone else.
>
> When I asked you about the sudden change in her feelings you told me that
> you just did not understand her. Hopefully now you understand her a little
> more.  On March 23rd she is in love with me, on the 26th of March, after I try

> to deliver money to your office, she has found someone new.
>
> I think with a woman like this that good foreign men should know about her,

>  don't  you?  I'm sure you do and that is why the photo of the lovely Elena will
>  be  posted on the internet for many years to come. Guys need to know about
> this woman's apparent quick change of feelings.
>
> I do wish you luck with getting better, more emotionally stable
> clients in the future.
>
> Guber

 
 
 
 
 
 
« Last Edit: April 07, 2006, 09:50:00 AM by Jack »

 

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