Interesting interview with Ukrainian wife in US

[naigalina]

Where did you see the word "friend"?  She was my former classmate from university. I haven't seen her in over 6 years. I do NOT have any friends working for any marriage agency.

And I was sincerely sharing my story as is. No sugarcoating.


PS I don't have a preference about my name. Both are fine with me.

[Daveman]

I have seen some men date for months, years, hold hands and hope things would move along somehow. In Ukraine, women rarely take initiative. So if you wait for her to come around and make the first step, you will be tomorrow where you are today. That was my point. No point banging on the doors that are shut specifically not to let you in.

About the agency writing:

I ended up writing 90% of the letters. But later I did discover that they were tweaked by the agency. Where I said that I didn't have time for a meeting or a vacation, they put "oh, I would be happy to see you soon in my city."

...

Interesting.


How would you suggest a man know the door is indeed shut if the Agency letter editors deliberately tell him the door is open?


Obviously, he should be able to read body language, etc. upon an in person, face2face meeting... but let's say.. he's been writing to a woman for X amount of time. The letter editor has edited or written letters stating her interest, or even more -- now he meets this woman and must also rectify in his own mind the discrepancy between this lady's apparent (non)interest with all the wonderful sweet and inviting letters he exchanged with her.. inviting him to travel half way around the world to meet because of such stated interest...


So, it's an interesting process...  would you recommend men to use such sites?

[naigalina]

I personally wouldn't use major big sites. Look at the photos that those sites have. Provocative? Screaming "sex"-- avoid those. Think not with reptilian brain, but with the main one.
Look for smaller agencies. Go, physically visit her in her home country. See how she interacts with you. If you have some experience with women in general, you will be able to understand if there is a connection (emotional, mental, physical.) She will be very engaging, will not take you shopping right away, will show the affection (hold hands, hug, kiss.)

That's just how I think. You asked - I answered.

[Patagonie]

I personally wouldn't use major big sites. Look at the photos that those sites have. Provocative? Screaming "sex"-- avoid those. Think not with reptilian brain, but with the main one.
Look for smaller agencies. Go, physically visit her in her home country. See how she interacts with you. If you have some experience with women in general, you will be able to understand if there is a connection (emotional, mental, physical.) She will be very engaging, will not take you shopping right away, will show the affection (hold hands, hug, kiss.)

That's just how I think. You asked - I answered.

A lot of guys write and write, believing that there will be a guarantee with this. They are engaged, because they think that they have a connection. Many times i have explained that, in the best case, they have to pass first the physical attraction test who works for both, and after you need to climb the ladder (job's man) in the intimacy topic, and carefully (both) see how you interact each other.
You underline that guys who have some experience shoud understand if there is a connection, many fails. and make this connection working and improving (more fails here again).
Have you, as interpreter, assisted to many meetings ? And what had been your experience about such meetings ?

I can confess you that i have gamed my lady, i have pushed emotions any time, i used a lot of humour which boosts the connection. i worked all in feelings but letting the struggle between both personnalities have their fierce fights.

[naigalina]

I never worked as a paid interpreter for any agency, but I helped some people for free and only few times. I helped only to initiate the conversation. I talked to some women to see if they were interested talking to certain guys, and if they were I would introduce them.

PS I worked in Tourism and Finance.

[Daveman]

So far there are 50 some odd posts in this thread -- 8,346 of them having been "reported".


I'm not going back through to edit/dick with all the posts in the thread.  Play nice... if anyone feels this is too difficult then stay out of the thread.



As a reminder...  we still use the "self-moderation" model.  If there is disagreement with a post, or even the manner in which it was written or the way it comes across, we leave it - as much as possible -- to the members to moderate the threads... to challenge each other's posts WITHOUT taking things to a personal level.

[TomT]

So far there are 50 some odd posts in this thread -- 8,346 of them having been "reported".


I'm not going back through to edit/dick with all the posts in the thread.  Play nice... if anyone feels this is too difficult then stay out of the thread.



As a reminder...  we still use the "self-moderation" model.  If there is disagreement with a post, or even the manner in which it was written or the way it comes across, we leave it - as much as possible -- to the members to moderate the threads... to challenge each other's posts WITHOUT taking things to a personal level.

That is very progressive, Daveman. At the other place, the mods are forever editing insults, profanity, slurs about race/sexual orientation and threats. It doesn't work, of course.

[newjason]

GQ:
Thanks for welcoming me here!

I don't have to prove my point here. And I am not going to! I'm not here to promote my blog either, or anything else. No commercial interest! And I'm not here to impress anyone. Pure curiosity.

You can disagree with everyone here and in the whole world- just be cool about it. Think about this: why does it still bother you so much what other people do?! How does it affect your life? Answer this question yourself. And then let it go!

Hello Galina.
Welcome to the Forum.

Interesting story you tell.
I must agree completely the GQBlues, as he tells it like it is.

I find it confusing that you joined as a commercial member yet maintain you have no commercial interests here. You posted the link to your blog, therefore you are promoting.
Your story finds you and your husband both members of a marriage agency , yet  you claim neither of you were looking to get married.

deny, subterfuge and obfuscate.

[lordtiberius]

So far there are 50 some odd posts in this thread -- 8,346 of them having been "reported".


I'm not going back through to edit/dick with all the posts in the thread.  Play nice... if anyone feels this is too difficult then stay out of the thread.



As a reminder...  we still use the "self-moderation" model.  If there is disagreement with a post, or even the manner in which it was written or the way it comes across, we leave it - as much as possible -- to the members to moderate the threads... to challenge each other's posts WITHOUT taking things to a personal level.

To be fair, there are some really evil people out there.  They tell me that this forum is different.  Let us hope that your maintain your high standards and fall victim to some malefactor's cult of ego.

[Slumba]

Hello Galina.
Welcome to the Forum.

Interesting story you tell.
I must agree completely the GQBlues, as he tells it like it is.

I find it confusing that you joined as a commercial member yet maintain you have no commercial interests here. You posted the link to your blog, therefore you are promoting.
Your story finds you and your husband both members of a marriage agency , yet  you claim neither of you were looking to get married.

deny, subterfuge and obfuscate.

Thought it was the mods that determined who was commercial?

[naigalina]

I'm a very straight forward person.

I did not put any link to my blog here. And the blog itself is a free blog, I don't pay for it, therefore I don't make any money on it. It's a hobby. No links from me, no names, etc.  I don't sell anything, nor provide any services. So, what does it make me a commercial user?! BTW some other guys attached the link.

I saw a discussion of the interview here, and decided to give one woman's perspective on the matter. How do I suddenly become a commercial user?!

If you read and listened to my story, I clearly reasoned why my husband was not looking for a wife at the moment, and why I was on the agency web-site in the first place (mainly curiosity.) I asked them to remove my profile after about 2 months of me been there.

I thought that the point of this forum was for different people to share their experiences, in order to help others understand how things are in FSUC.

I am here to help guys and couples who need advice on how to overcome cultural differences, how to understand each other better, what to expect, etc. Because marriage is not something you get with a click of the mouse. You meet, communicate, and then move to the next step.

The question to the moderators: ]I don't sell anything, nor provide any services. So, what does it make me a commercial user?!!!

[TomT]

How do I suddenly become a commercial user?!

That depends. Who suggested that you register here yesterday?

p.s.
lordtiberius wasn't calling you an evil malefactor; he was referring to me.   
[Edit to add: lordtiberius is reporting this post to moderation.]

[GQBlues]

GQ:
Thanks for welcoming me here!

Pajulsta.

..I don't have to prove my point here. And I am not going to!...

Super! Because it isn't about you. But methinks you'd like to make it so.

...I'm not here to promote my blog either, or anything else. No commercial interest! And I'm not here to impress anyone.

Great, cause I'm not 

...You can disagree with everyone here and in the whole world- just be cool about it. Think about this: why does it still bother you so much what other people do?! How does it affect your life? Answer this question yourself. And then let it go!

OY! Here it goes (you were doing so well, too) Obviously my intial assertion wasn't accurate...So allow me to give you some 101 time, oh-wise-one:

* Practice what you preach* 

What a terrible thing to write! You'll be an old fart in your 70s someday. Of course, I'll get there long before you will.     Personally, I thought that the interview was a hoot, especially the part about age being just "a passport number." (It must have been a Freudian slip...) As you know, age is as huge as girth (pun intended), sobriety, mental health and physical performance. Of course, the guys who fail on every count love to hear otherwise....

Well, as always, you're always the astute one, TomT. It leaves me not wondering why you're the only one who actually got the point based on what you quoted from me. Que sera, sera..

It seems I struck a wider chord than I expected as these old farts either lost reading comprehension, or the subject is coming so close to home.

...p.s.
Wassamatta Matt? You've been in the search for two years and haven't gotten lucky yet?..

Yeah, that's what Father Time said so, too. That's lil Dougie in case you didn't know. He's got a tweeter account now, too. #StickyBunz

...At RWD we try to add balance to expressed viewpoints.  GQ made a sweeping assumption without facts about Mark's clients and chat membership.   If GQ insists on journalistic balance, I suggest that he choose particular points made by Galina and offer a counterpoint.   Other options:  Galina could return for a second chat when she is in a bad mood.  Or maybe Mark should have a chat with Antidate members?  Or maybe GQ could find a bitter FSUW for one of Mark's chats.

OY! You've been such a bore lately Gator...

Wrong. I know at least ONE of them is, for a fact, an old fart...lil Dougie. Ask jone, he knows him personally, LOL.

Like lil Dougie, is your stubborness age-related, Gator? Frankly, assumptions are just that *ass*umptions. If it was fact-based, then it is no longer an assumption. I can't say how many old farts there were on that chat, but I know, matter-of-fact, at least one of them is an old fart. Fathertime himself. No excuse from you of course though maybe that remains to be seen.

As for Galina, no need to repeat myself. I can't help that you don't pay attention, too.

As for balance, I'm glad you mentioned that. Balance. Yes, it's about time we explore one aspect of this silliness that time and people had been silent about. That is...

Why do men in their late 60s and 70s go to 3rd world countries to get a woman nearly half their age and marry? Is this a natural refusal to admit the end is near? Is this some last great attempt to hold on to their long past memories of youth? Is life really that boring and empty and convincing yourselves there's an ounce of value in you as a much younger woman's husband despite the obvious?

We have one couple here not too long ago, he: 67, she 33...every gathering and in everything they do, I can't really help but feel for them. He's such a nice guy, too (the lady as well) - but you can easily see how uncomfortable they to be seen together. It was painful to watch. They're divorce now. She's got a new beau 2 years older than she is - Ukrainian man, and he's home alone...likely to die alone, too. She visits him now and then just to make sure he's OK. Boyfriend knows about it and understands. But that's just reality, man. You can't change any of it.

I mean, I realize FSUM doesn't live past 50s in FSU so these ladies are denied the grim reality that a man in his late 60s and 70s with a hard-on can be something they'd rather soon forget they saw, much less, well, fondle.

Seriously now. This is one topic that has never ever been discussed around these halls, which to me is remarkable considering the majority of men (Danger: *Ass*umption) should be pre-ordering their HoverRounds instead of whatever it is they think they're going to do in FSU.

If I'm like lil Dougie and I'm on my 70s and single, why on earth will I petition a woman from another country that's barely able to speak English when I know I have on foot over that 6er...Colonoscopies, prostate-hosing, life-alerts, hoverrounds, drippies and pampers, bedpans, etc...are likely normal occurances at that age/s. Viagra or Cialis are even way beyond their usefulness at that age I would think, no?

I mean, at the age like lil Dougie (maybe you, too?), are these ladies just your long-term care plans? You know, in case something happens who's going to know - or care - like the tree falling in the forest when there's no one there. That may be a bit sickening to think but its' definitely far closer to reality than thinking at late 60s and 70s you're a raging, zesty El Bandido, yes?

But fear not, man...it isn't too late to join social clubs made for folks like you and lil Dougie. Here's Club Hoverround for one..



"Hoverround takes me where I want to go.."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=kM6pEg_Ps9o&feature=endscreenThe new models come equipped with a Cup holder and magazine tote bags, man. Good stuff! I'm thinking someday I may need this thing, you know...by then I hope they'll come in red. Hoverround and a remote - that would be like 'sex' when you're in your 70s, I would think...


Heck, even Taco Bell may have started a trend already...you even get free churros, man.http://www.youtube.com/tacobell
No offense but when I saw that commercial, LOL, I can't help but think of you and our lil Dougie...p.s. It seems *old farts* is found to be offensive by some of you so from now on I'll use *Sticky Buns* in lieu of Old Farts, cool?

Seriously...think about it. Let's discuss this for *balance* for a change. OK?

[pitbull]

If you read and listened to my story, I clearly reasoned why my husband was not looking for a wife at the moment, and why I was on the agency web-site in the first place (mainly curiosity.) I asked them to remove my profile after about 2 months of me been there.

How come he was looking at a MOB website and writing to girls who were supposedly seeking marriage to american men? And then he just happened to be in Ukraine? What WAS he looking for? 

[pitbull]

If I'm like lil Dougie and I'm on my 70s and single, why on earth will I petition a woman from another country that's barely able to speak English when I know I have on foot over that 6er...Colonoscopies, prostate-hosing, life-alerts, hoverrounds, drippies and pampers, bedpans, etc...are likely normal occurances at that age/s. Viagra or Cialis are even way beyond their usefulness at that age I would think, no?

I mean, at the age like lil Dougie (maybe you, too?), are these ladies just your long-term care plans?

You might have wrtitten this as a joke, but many stories I've read over the years on the russian-fiancee forum confirm that this is a very valid motivation of men (aka old goats) in many of such marriages   

[TomT]

It was nice of you to say so, GQ, but I have the advantage because we go back nearly a decade. Are you guys wealthy yet?
 

[TomT]

You might have wrtitten this as a joke, but many stories I've read over the years on the russian-fiancee forum confirm that this is a very valid motivation of men (aka old goats) in many of such marriages 

Truer words were never written.

[noelscot]

Pajulsta.

Super! Because it isn't about you. But methinks you'd like to make it so.

Great, cause I'm not 

OY! Here it goes (you were doing so well, too) Obviously my intial assertion wasn't accurate...So allow me to give you some 101 time, oh-wise-one:

* Practice what you preach* 


Well, as always, you're always the astute one, TomT. It leaves me not wondering why you're the only one who actually got the point based on what you quoted from me. Que sera, sera..

It seems I struck a wider chord than I expected as these old farts either lost reading comprehension, or the subject is coming so close to home.

Yeah, that's what Father Time said so, too. That's lil Dougie in case you didn't know. He's got a tweeter account now, too. #StickyBunz


OY! You've been such a bore lately Gator...

Wrong. I know at least ONE of them is, for a fact, an old fart...lil Dougie. Ask jone, he knows him personally, LOL.

Like lil Dougie, is your stubborness age-related, Gator? Frankly, assumptions are just that *ass*umptions. If it was fact-based, then it is no longer an assumption. I can't say how many old farts there were on that chat, but I know, matter-of-fact, at least one of them is an old fart. Fathertime himself. No excuse from you of course though maybe that remains to be seen.

As for Galina, no need to repeat myself. I can't help that you don't pay attention, too.

As for balance, I'm glad you mentioned that. Balance. Yes, it's about time we explore one aspect of this silliness that time and people had been silent about. That is...

Why do men in their late 60s and 70s go to 3rd world countries to get a woman nearly half their age and marry? Is this a natural refusal to admit the end is near? Is this some last great attempt to hold on to their long past memories of youth? Is life really that boring and empty and convincing yourselves there's an ounce of value in you as a much younger woman's husband despite the obvious?

We have one couple here not too long ago, he: 67, she 33...every gathering and in everything they do, I can't really help but feel for them. He's such a nice guy, too (the lady as well) - but you can easily see how uncomfortable they to be seen together. It was painful to watch. They're divorce now. She's got a new beau 2 years older than she is - Ukrainian man, and he's home alone...likely to die alone, too. She visits him now and then just to make sure he's OK. Boyfriend knows about it and understands. But that's just reality, man. You can't change any of it.

I mean, I realize FSUM doesn't live past 50s in FSU so these ladies are denied the grim reality that a man in his late 60s and 70s with a hard-on can be something they'd rather soon forget they saw, much less, well, fondle.

Seriously now. This is one topic that has never ever been discussed around these halls, which to me is remarkable considering the majority of men (Danger: *Ass*umption) should be pre-ordering their HoverRounds instead of whatever it is they think they're going to do in FSU.

If I'm like lil Dougie and I'm on my 70s and single, why on earth will I petition a woman from another country that's barely able to speak English when I know I have on foot over that 6er...Colonoscopies, prostate-hosing, life-alerts, hoverrounds, drippies and pampers, bedpans, etc...are likely normal occurances at that age/s. Viagra or Cialis are even way beyond their usefulness at that age I would think, no?

I mean, at the age like lil Dougie (maybe you, too?), are these ladies just your long-term care plans? You know, in case something happens who's going to know - or care - like the tree falling in the forest when there's no one there. That may be a bit sickening to think but its' definitely far closer to reality than thinking at late 60s and 70s you're a raging, zesty El Bandido, yes?

But fear not, man...it isn't too late to join social clubs made for folks like you and lil Dougie. Here's Club Hoverround for one..





"Hoverround takes me where I want to go.."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=kM6pEg_Ps9o&feature=endscreen


The new models come equipped with a Cup holder and magazine tote bags, man. Good stuff! I'm thinking someday I may need this thing, you know...by then I hope they'll come in red. Hoverround and a remote - that would be like 'sex' when you're in your 70s, I would think...


Heck, even Taco Bell may have started a trend already...you even get free churros, man.


http://www.youtube.com/tacobell


p.s. It seems *old farts* is found to be offensive by some of you so from now on I'll use *Sticky Buns* in lieu of Old Farts, cool?

Seriously...think about it. Let's discuss this for *balance* for a change. OK?

Why do you care if someone rocks the cradle of love, so long as it isn't illegal?

[Slumba]

Pajulsta.

(much thread-crapping deleted)

Of course, GQ, now that I have a chance to review the video/interview in question, it is apparent you did not actually watch much of this interview....

I actually listened for about 3 minutes and realized the podcast/interview comprised of a bunch of middle-aged (translation: old, very old) men curiously captivated (translation: horny) by a woman in her 20s (translation: much, much younger than they are) recounting her story about marrying a man 20 years her junior.

LOL, the chat transcribe on the side were asking questions like...

what's their age difference? Does Galyna own her own agency? How can we meet others like her? Does she have friends, relatives, etc...blah, blah, blah...there was one statement that said *how refreshing it is to hear a woman saying how she doesn't mind the age difference*

After minute 12:18 or so, the chatbar on the side is closed by the chat moderator/interviewer and he conducts a typical Q&A interview. 

So let's say 12 minutes out of an interview of 72 minutes - 1/6th or ~17% of the time - didn't stop you from rather dickishly mis-characterizing the entire interview, did it?

GQ, concerning the rest of your post, ask any FSUW how they buy clothes - they always think QUALITY, not QUANTITY ... a wise man might try to use this concept in other parts of his life.  Like, for instance, forum postings ...

(PS:  should be "a man 20 years her *senior*" - a 29 year old woman with a 9 year old male in the USA is usually called "a schoolteacher"  ...)

[lordtiberius]

I just read the bog link you posted for the first time.  This lady is quite a good author/writer.  She shows so much charm in her writing.  I will have to read more of her blog.

Yeah, back to the interview and the subjects of the interview.   

I am going to go check out her and stay off this forum for a while.  Respect and gratitude to the interviewer and the interviewee for the share.  Also, Calmissile, I think it is disgraceful that so many members of this forum distracted from the subject by making personal attacks against you.     I object to it although I am fairly certain I have seen it in other circles we have traveled in. 

RWD, I have a feeling you will and encourage the liberal use of "Report to Moderator" function.  I also encourage the administrators of this site to not only enforces standards,  but to add an ignore button.  Speaking only for myself, I have no interest whatsoever in soliciting the services of some of the commercial members and those ASPIRING to be commercial members.

[jone]

Folks,

The point of the thread was to give a Ukrainian woman's perspective on what she thought and felt when she was deciding that she wanted to marry a WM.  It was a charming interview.  So much so that Shadow actually thought she was an actress.

She runs a charming (oh, an Eastern European woman with Charm  - But that's for another current thread!!!!!) blog that highlights the wonderful things about Ukraine.

As a double bonus, we get to have her join our forum and get to ask her questions in more detail.  Let's put on our best faces and try not to Sh####t the bed.  (No references to the geriatric set intended.)

[TomT]

Folks,

The point of the thread was to give a Ukrainian woman's perspective on what she thought and felt when she was deciding that she wanted to marry a WM.  It was a charming interview.  So much so that Shadow actually thought she was an actress.

She runs a charming (oh, an Eastern European woman with Charm  - But that's for another current thread!!!!!) blog that highlights the wonderful things about Ukraine.

As a double bonus, we get to have her join our forum and get to ask her questions in more detail.  Let's put on our best faces and try not Sh####t the bed.  (No references to the geriatric set intended.)

Do you think that my question about who suggested that she register here was out of line?

[ML]

Quotes from naigalina:

"So, when my former classmate asked me to create a profile (as part of her new inventory for her dating website), I first refused. I thought that all American men were as they say "fat, dumb, and happy", and there would be nothing for me- a well-educated girl- to talk to them about.
She kept asking me to help her with her new business in the area. She said that it wouldn't take any of my time (I worked 11 hrs/day for a FOREX broker company, and was quite busy), that she would respond to most letters for me."

"About the agency writing:  I ended up writing 90% of the letters. But later I did discover that they were tweaked by the agency. Where I said that I didn't have time for a meeting or a vacation, they put "oh, I would be happy to see you soon in my city."

= = = = = =  ==

Hi Galyna:

You mentioned somewhere that a classmate of yours talked you into posting a profile to help her business get started.  And you mentioned that she or someone on her staff replied to the letters that men sent to your profile.

And you further note that the agency changed some of the letters that you wrote yourself.

Questions:

Can you explain why you participated in a scam of men who thought they were actually receiving replies from you, when in fact they were not?

Are you now still on speaking  terms with these people who were (and probably still are) running a scam operation?  i.e. Communicating with men under false pretenses with money involved.

And if yes; how do you justify this to yourself?

And what does your husband think of your being at least a silent partner in the scamming operations where you agreed to let others write and send letters to men when those men thought the letters were from you

And what does your husband think about your acquaintances still running a scam operation?

Don't just focus the situation that developed between you and your husband; I am addressing the larger situation your acquaintances are involved in that you agreed to participate in for at least awhile.

[jone]

Quotes from naigalina:

Hi Galyna:

You mentioned somewhere that a classmate of yours talked you into posting a profile to help her business get started.  And you mentioned that she or someone on her staff replied to the letters that men sent to your profile.

And you further note that the agency changed some of the letters that you wrote yourself.

Questions:

Can you explain why you participated in a scam of men who thought they were actually receiving replies from you, when in fact they were not?

Are you now still on speaking  terms with these people who were (and probably still are) running a scam operation?  i.e. Communicating with men under false pretenses with money involved.

And if yes; how do you justify this to yourself?

And what does your husband think of your being at least a silent partner in the scamming operations where you agreed to let others write and send letters to men when those men thought the letters were from you

And what does your husband think about your acquaintances still running a scam operation?

Don't just focus the situation that developed between you and your husband; I am addressing the larger situation your acquaintances are involved in that you agreed to participate in for at least awhile.

As usual, ML, you're way ahead of us. 

These were exactly the questions that I wanted to ask, but in a little softer context so we could actually get a response rather than a blow back.  Obviously, the agency in question is running a PPL (Pay Per Letter) operation.

But, Galyna, this falls directly into the perspective that most men have here about PPL sites.  You've given us an example of one that had a success story - but by your own admission, it was not until you were spending copious amounts of time with your husband that you really were serious about having a relationship with him.  Yet these sites advertise about Ukraine Brides, when, in many cases, the women are only there  because the agency is paying them to be there, and for various other reasons, not related to true dating.

If you were talking to a man and advising him of how to find a woman (and I don't see any references to it in your blog) would you not tell him to stay clear of such sites because the chances of success are slim and none?  And, additionally, would you not also decry foul of the tactics used by the site that provided the eventual introduction?

We tell all of our new correspondents to stay clear of PPL sites because of the deceptions that were played not only on other men trying to contact you, but on your husband as well.

I am hoping that you will be a participant in these discussions because, ultimately, your knowledge is most valuable and your ability to communicate is extraordinary.

-jon

[GQBlues]

You might have wrtitten this as a joke, but many stories I've read over the years on the russian-fiancee forum confirm that this is a very valid motivation of men (aka old goats) in many of such marriages

No, it wasn't meant as a joke. I concur with what you stated as one of the sample I shared is real. I still remember the first time we went over for dinner with a few people in their circle. His friends comprised of folks in their late 60s (one woman mostly men), while her side was comprised of FSUWs in the late 20s and early 30s...I got the gist I stated above from one of 'his' friend when he said, ' Nice. That's a great way to insure your long term care, XXX'.

Of course, GQ, now that I have a chance to review the video/interview in question, it is apparent you did not actually watch much of this interview....

After minute 12:18 or so, the chatbar on the side is closed by the chat moderator/interviewer and he conducts a typical Q&A interview. 

So let's say 12 minutes out of an interview of 72 minutes - 1/6th or ~17% of the time - didn't stop you from rather dickishly mis-characterizing the entire interview, did it?

GQ, concerning the rest of your post, ask any FSUW how they buy clothes - they always think QUALITY, not QUANTITY ... a wise man might try to use this concept in other parts of his life.  Like, for instance, forum postings ...

(PS:  should be "a man 20 years her *senior*" - a 29 year old woman with a 9 year old male in the USA is usually called "a schoolteacher"  ...)

*3 minutes* is NOT *12 minutes* braniac.

Were you born dense or just acquired the trait along the way? There's no need to use the word *apparent* that I didn't listen to the silly interview/showcase,  genius! I already said it took me all of *3 minutes* in the first darn sentence which YOU quoted.

It took you ALL DAY long trying to figure this out?

Holy Molly!


Folks, now I understand the topic I swayed this thread to may be a bit sensitive to some many of you. But the topic is on cue (age disparity) and if this make you boys squirm a little, good. It is meant to be that.

The facts are what they are. Men who are so old they can no longer control where and when they fart (No, Noelscott - that isn't illegal either, LOL) are and/or promoting looking for wives half their ages is a very real and tragic case in places like the FSU.

Many had even discussed and agreed amongst themselves how this is much more germaine based on their arguments about 'life stages'. LOL. The women in their late 30s early 40s and the men in their diaper stages.

So, knowing this, shouldn't discussions be about, say..

Viagra/Cialis. What's your weapon of choice, and why?

Who gets to do the stimulating for the rise. The old fart or the non-English speaking 3rd world country gal?

Maybe get the insight from the women's side about what they really thought when they first laid eyes on these men's naked bodies? Are the skin as soft and soupy as the mass? Do the butts sway side to side at every movement?

When kissing, do they feel the dentures moving around? Can they taste the adhesive they use?

Do they accidentally 'fart' in the heat of, whatever they call it at that age.

I mean...I can't even begin to imagine having sex with a woman in her 60s or 70s, even at my age today. I also know because of the rise of cougars these days, older women actually love sexing up some much younger stud than fathertimes whose hard-ons are likely best describe as expired yogurt on a stick, no?

C'mon, let's have some balance here, guys. Fathertime Dougie wanted this thread, let's have him chair the darn discussion and the other StickyBuns can chime in their thoughts, experiences, etc...

So lil Dougie...yah got your wish, man. The discussion forum is wide open, baby!