Reflections on my first trip to Ukrainel

[lordtiberius]

While in Kiev, I took pictures of things I did not understand, but liked and thought was cool.  I lived in 2-room Soviet Style apartment.  It was 64 square meter in the Lipki, Kostya Hordijenka Ln, 1А, Kiev, Kiev City 02000, Ukraine.

On my walk toward the Pinchuk Art center.  I passed by a curious monument.  I later did the research and submitted for your approval, offerings from my collection.

On June 16, 2010, the people of Ukraine erected a monument to Philip Orlik, an 18th century Ukrainian freedom fighter. Following the defeat at the Battle of Poltava, Orlik organized Mazepa's forces and gave the people of  a democratic Constitution - one of the the first Constitutions in Europe.

Born on the 11th of October 1672 to Stephen and Irina Orlik, Philip Stephanovich Orlik lived under Polish rule.   His father, a Catholic noble of Czech extraction serving at the Grand duchy of Lithuania married an Orthodox woman, Iryni Malachowski from Belorussian and Ukrainian nobility. Stephen Orlik died one year after Philip was born fighting the muslim Turk at the battle of Khotin.

Jesuit educated in Vilnius and at the Kiev Mohyla Academy.  In 1698, he served as secretary of the kiev Metropolia.  Sweden, Poland and the Turks went war with Peter the Great of Russia.  In 1699, he joined Ivan Mazepa's General Military chancellory and organized anti-Russian resistance.

The 38 year old Philip Orlik offered the first free Ukrainian Constitution to Europe following the Battle of Poltava. The Constitution often called the Cossack Social Contract, set up three branches and limited the powers of the executive in terms of taxation, foreign policy and the execution of justice.  Historians sometimes refer to the Constitution as the Bender's Constitution as Philip Orlik composed the Constitution in exile in Bender, Moldalvia.  Orlik spent the rest of his life in the courts of France, England and all over Europe championing the cause of a free Ukraine, but the Constitution met to entice free Ukrainian patriots would have to wait three centuries to carry the weight of the law.
 
The sculpture is the work of Anatoliy Kush (born 1945).  Well respected and famous, Mr. Kush's works, such as the Monument of Independence, the sculpture of the legendary founders of Kiev and the bust of Lenin in the Kiev Metro)  dot many of the national monuments across Ukraine.  Mr. Kush is a member of the National Union of  Ukrainian Artists and a 1972 alumni of the Kiev State Art Institute.  His awards include Honored Artist of Ukraine (1979) and People's Artist of Ukraine (1996).

The Monument to Philip Orlik stands at the intersection of Orlik and Lipsky* Street. Considered one of the most prestigious places to stay in Kiev. Plans for settlement began in the 18th century when the military governor of kiev subdivided the land around Klovsky Place - the current site of the Ukrainian Supreme Court. Construction did not begin until the 1830s. Many mansions dot the boulevard.

Built in 1911, architect I. Belyaev designed House number 3 in the neoclassical style. Across the street sits house number 4, a sumptuous mansion built in 1908 in the Renaissance style.

This area of town was badly damaged in the Russian Civil War. Reconstruction begin in 1930. From 1930 to 1950, new buildings mark the Soviet period where NKVD employees lived.






*Lipsky means lime.

[Mod3]

Use the image picture, then resize as the original seems a bit large.

[lordtiberius]

Bought my ticket today for my second trip.  It will be a short trip.  But I cannot wait.

[cc3]

Bought my ticket today for my second trip.  It will be a short trip.  But I cannot wait.

How short?

[mendeleyev]

LT, back to Kyiv?

[anm8tr]

Bought my ticket today for my second trip.  It will be a short trip.  But I cannot wait.

Are you going back to see a girl or more statues?

[cc3]

Are you going back to see a girl or more statues?

He may not reply.
He's back on RUA, claiming the moderators here were too strict with him. 

[jone]

Hey,

If we are doing what we are supposed to be doing - helping out with FSUW / WM relationships - then there should be no requirement for true moderation.  It is when emotions and egos get in the way (and I am guilty just like the rest of the bunch).  But to really try helping people, and sharing common experiences, the results should be a no-brainer. 

[CanadaMan]

Are you going back to see a girl or more statues?

LOL!   

[lordtiberius]

LT, back to Kyiv?

Sir!  Going back for 5 day visit in March.  I am prolly going to take Vinny's advice and stay close to Pinchuk Art Center.

Great articles btw!  Especially the Boy Scout, I was speaking to Nina Petrovna about freedoms in America versus Russia.  I hate to say it but we are losing ours and they are gaining theirs because people over here are more concerned about what's appropriate and what's not versus what is right and wrong. 

They say it can't happen here.  I would encourage them to read Solzenitsyn.  I am going to post more pictures of some more buildings of Philip Orlik street.  It has a cleft history.  The distant past is at war with the nearly past.  It's like the old saying:

- Don't look at the past because you will loose an eye.  = Don't look at the past and you may loose both eyes.

[lordtiberius]

Hey,

If we are doing what we are supposed to be doing - helping out with FSUW / WM relationships - then there should be no requirement for true moderation.  It is when emotions and egos get in the way (and I am guilty just like the rest of the bunch).  But to really try helping people, and sharing common experiences, the results should be a no-brainer.

Agree.  IMO, if you really want to change things it is best not to lobby the managemnt but start your own board and see what happens.

You have been over there.  You have to admit it is not an easy place to visit especially in the winter.  Doesn't enhance your experience when you know what you are looking at and why its' important?  It does for me.  If a newbie books an apartment in Lipki and reads this post, at least he know what he is looking at.  I didn't

[Daveman]

Agree.  IMO, if you really want to change things it is best not to lobby the managemnt but start your own board and see what happens.
...

"lobby the management"...  ahhhhh..... NOW I get it... 

Hey,

If we are doing what we are supposed to be doing - helping out with FSUW / WM relationships - then there should be no requirement for true moderation.  It is when emotions and egos get in the way (and I am guilty just like the rest of the bunch).  But to really try helping people, and sharing common experiences, the results should be a no-brainer. 

Agreed... thus the concept of the self-moderation model... it works well most of the time.. at least it gives me more nap time..




Anyway, good luck on the new trip, LT,  and looking forward to hearing more about the first one. 

[Faux Pas]

Agree.  IMO, if you really want to change things it is best not to lobby the managemnt but start your own board and see what happens.

You have been over there.  You have to admit it is not an easy place to visit especially in the winter.  Doesn't enhance your experience when you know what you are looking at and why its' important?  It does for me.  If a newbie books an apartment in Lipki and reads this post, at least he know what he is looking at.  I didn't

Perhaps you could think of it this way. Someone has invited you as their guest into their house. You accept the invitation, immediately walk in, sit down, throw your feet on the coffee table. In between the loud belching and beer farts you demand someone bring you more beer. Do you make that particular entrance everywhere you go?

[TomT]

Sir!  Going back for 5 day visit in March.  I am prolly going to take Vinny's advice and stay close to Pinchuk Art Center.

At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious, spending five days with your fiancee three or four times a year is grossly inadequate. 

[lordtiberius]

Gentlemen, the previous poster and our resident super moderator are correct and I am wrong.  And I thank them for the correction.  Sometimes we cannot see in ourselves our many faults.  Sometimes it takes others to help us along the way.  For that I thank the two gentlemen sincerely.  I apologize for my less than classy comments. 

So let me set the record straight,   I am not interested in making new enemies but new friends.  I am not interested in changing policy on your forum but finding a creative place to express myself and share ideas - even criticism.  My lady is a private person but if you want to read the personal details between me and my harem, you can buy my book.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1481088599?ie=UTF8&tag=secrtostudabr-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=1481088599

I created this thread to share my pictures and insights of my last trip.  I am interested in building a family with this woman.  50% of any offspring will have her genetic code.  I think it is important to understand the heritage and culture of this race.  If you disagree with me, this TR is not for you. 

Further, as you men know I have the attention span of a hyperactive puppy a weak bladder, because I am SOOO weak, I ask all our self moderators to self moderate any non sequitur comments off this thread.  Thank you for your support,

Yours Truly,

A moderated self moderating self moderator

[I/O]

50% of any offspring will have her genetic code

And the other 50% will have whose code? I hope most other things you do in life are done better than your genetic calculations. Back in the day, we would have referred to you as a blowhard or an idiot but seeing as we don't do that now, I won't.

[lordtiberius]

And the other 50% will have whose code? I hope most other things you do in life are done better than your genetic calculations. Back in the day, we would have referred to you as a blowhard or an idiot but seeing as we don't do that now, I won't.

   God Bless you!!!

[lordtiberius]

Bld 22 on Shovkovychna
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64801874@N00/8454627549/in/photostream/

Ukraine is a state of civil war with itself. Here unseen partisans fight for control of the street. Ghosts vie for the hearts of men. The past argues with itself to the frustration of the present and for the amusement of the future.  Here on this street, you can still hear the bullets of the Bolshevik Kievan uprising of 1918 whizz by as the Legion of Ukrainian Sich Riflemen supported by the Free Cossacks face the Red Guards of Left Bank Ukraine.

Soldiers of Free Ukraine

Red Guards

The Lipki suburb hosted violent clashes with free Ukrainians and Soviet Ukrainians after the toppling of the Czar.

You won't see any carcasses of the starving dead on this 1932 street. 


Even if you did Stalin's watchful eyes will not let you scrape the corpses up but rather let the dead bury the dead.


 
This is an NKVD street.  This is where they made their home.  Their kids went to the school across the street. 

They made movies about their exploits. 

They even made statues to their achievements.

Named Frederich Engels Street, it still serve's the nation's elite.

This house sat on the estate that was the old Klovsky castle or the Kievan Royal Residence for the visiting Tsar.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64801874@N00/8455721154/in/photostream/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/64801874@N00/8455722284/in/photostream/

Built in the Renaissance Style, this 1908 structure stands in silent homage to the world and order that presided before the Revolution. In former days a mansion to a wealthy family, building 4 is home to the new aristocracy - government offices that serve the state.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/64801874@N00/8454626557/in/photostream/

The Josper Bar, calling itself a meat bar, the fine dining restaurant caters to well heeled government bureaucrats in the Justice Departments. It sits in building 6, a post-Revolutionary extension (1932) of a pre-Revoltionary structure building Number 4 (1908).  There are a lot of ghosts in Ukraine.