What is an MOB'er?

[jone]

Yep, but that's where you are the same as the majority and where GBQ is different.


My ex was from the same category - I could do the best I saw fit and he would not discourage me. What it meant in my reality was after 10 hours day work I'd come home and he would tell me "I got you the newspaper, see if anything worth applying". And I was supposed to be studying weekends plus do not forget the housework; he was helping but it would took him 6 hours just to tidy the kitchen having a glass or two now and then so I had choice between cleaning or living in a shithole. It took me years to get a job I wanted because of the circumstances I was in with no support available and having to deal with a number of expensive and emotionally draining family issues on my own.


GQB for a change made his wife's first job happened by using his networking, was willing to postpone children even, willing to go through his wife not taking part in housework etc....And I remember his post, his motivation he is always saying is not to support his wife in whatever she chooses, that's without saying btw but give her the ability to stand on her own feet even if his own life was temporarily getting some discomfort. He was not just assisting he was working on it as much as he could and nearly as hard as she did.


Plus he understand his wife is his parent's future support and he is thinking of stuff like how to organize their life later in time....Just to compare there are many posters here who openly express fear or unwillingness to have her parents as guests, to grandparents speaking Russian to their kids...


Regardless of how I may disagree with him he is more man than 99% here. Every man takes his wife interests at heart when it is not against his wishes or benefits. GQB takes his wife interests at heart even when it's not directly beneficial for him. A Real Man what every woman admires.


He may found his wife through MOB but he is not typical, no.


I do apologize for discussing a member but the whole thread seems to be about it .

Damn You GQ!  You're making us all look bad!

Nah, the whole thread was not supposed to be about GQ.  We've discussed other topics.  But they're the same old ones.  But I was happy to check back in today over my self-made tasty sandwich, at lunchtime.

Speaking of tasty, when I was going through my search last summer, I was amazed at the number of women who put near the top of their resume, "Cooks tasty dishes".  Quite honesty, I can cook better than most women I know, and will expect to in my future life.  But growing up on an austerity budget, most of the women that I did wind up meeting were pretty sharp at knowing how to keep a clean home and throw together a meal.

I kind of resent the fact that I believe that they are told to put such in a resume.  If they have a love of cooking, fine, but I'll put my rack of lamb and pumpkin bars up against anyone else's.  My resentment stems from the stereotypical idea that this is what a man is looking for in a woman.  Ha!

This is one more way that the MOB sites dumb down their advertising to try to entice the stupid and uninformed.

[pitbull]

Fair enough!
Men like me do not need to compromise and marry a bitching woman with a nasty disposition.

As far as my fiance having access to forums, she already has including this one.
After reading the insult exchanges and stupid arguments, she chooses to not participate.

She also indicated that after we marry, we will be enjoying our family rather than wasting time on forums.  Makes sense to me.

I like a woman that thinks positive about life rather than make a career out of denigrating other people.  It took some time, but there are FSUW with pleasant, happy personalities.  That's what life's about.

Let's be fair - I give credit where credit is due on this forum. There are plenty of posts where I am not shy with my admiration for certain male posters. Even those I disagree with on some issues. I just don't have to be "pleasant" to an old goat in exchange for a GC, so no  BS from me - tell it like it is
 

[LiveFromUkraine]

tell it like it is

Maybe you can answer the question I posed to Bo.   Why is your reality truth while others is not?

[Boethius]

Fair enough!
Men like me do not need to compromise and marry a bitching woman with a nasty disposition.

As far as my fiance having access to forums, she already has including this one.
After reading the insult exchanges and stupid arguments, she chooses to not participate.

She also indicated that after we marry, we will be enjoying our family rather than wasting time on forums.  Makes sense to me.

I like a woman that thinks positive about life rather than make a career out of denigrating other people.  It took some time, but there are FSUW with pleasant, happy personalities.  That's what life's about.

Hmm, well, pitbull's husband has posted here about what a wonderful gem she is.  He, like pitbull, is very well educated, and he has a great career.  They have a beautiful child, and, I mean, beautiful, I'm not embellishing.  You don't live with her, so you don't know pitbull's disposition.

Be careful with those statements, cal.  I used to read the same, "Boethius you're a such a bitch, your poor husband, blah, blah, blah.  Thank God my (FSU) wife is nothing like you."   None of those posters is still married to his "wonderful wife".  Yet, my poor husband still comes home to a wife who greets him at the door with a kiss, a squeeze, and a smile.
 

[Ranetka]

Maybe he has a woman that is worth doing all those things?

This is normally the case, no?   

[Boethius]

Quoting the post in your response would help.  It doesn't matter since my question is still on topic with your response.

Since I responded to the post immediately preceding mine, I assumed posters have the grey matter to follow. 
 

[LiveFromUkraine]

This is normally the case, no?   

I hope so!  hah

[jone]

Hmm, well, pitbull's husband has posted here about what a wonderful gem she is.  He, like her, is very well educated, and he has a great career.  They have a beautiful child, and, I mean, beautiful, I'm not embellishing.  You don't live with her, so you don't know pitbull's disposition.
Be careful with those statements, cal.  I used to read the same, "Boethius you're a such a bitch, your poor husband, blah, blah, blah.  Thank God my (FSU) wife is nothing like you."   None of those posters is still married to his "wonderful wife".  Yet, my poor husband still comes home to a wife who greets him at the door with a kiss, a squeeze, and a smile.

May you have lots of kisses, squeezes and smiles in your life!

[LiveFromUkraine]

Well, my reality is the thruth of course! Cause I said so. Just take it on faith 

 I can't argue with that.  I'm a believer.      

[pitbull]

Be careful with those statements, cal.  I used to read the same, "Boethius you're a such a bitch, your poor husband, blah, blah, blah.  Thank God my (FSU) wife is nothing like you."   None of those posters is still married to his "wonderful wife".  Yet, my poor husband still comes home to a wife who greets him at the door with a kiss, a squeeze, and a smile.

Exactly, and where are these guys now?
Actually I've noticed that people with long happy marriages on RWD tend to agree with each other. While those who crash and burn and jump from fiancee to fiancee and from wife to wife are in opposition as a group (generally speaking, with some notable exceptions both ways)

[Misha]

[size=78%]women that love their husbands and have no need for such forums?[/size]

I have to say that the site that really has captured my wife's interest these days is Pinterest    She finds it much more enjoyable than forums. C'est la vie.


Now, the whole thing about career and kids is something that varies from family to family. I would be more than happy for my wife to find a high paying job. The challenge was her English: when she arrived, she knew zero English as she has studied German. Now, she can hold her own in a conversation, but it will take some more studying before she is capable of writing fluently in English. Now, her focus for the next few years will be children, and after that I expect that she will either seek to upgrade her qualifications or perhaps study for a new profession.


Has nothing to do with MOB or not MOB, just the challenges that face most people immigrating to a new country and families doing their best to balance children and work and bills to be paid...

[LiveFromUkraine]

I have to say that the site that really has captured my wife's interest these days is Pinterest    She finds it much more enjoyable than forums. C'est la vie.


Now, the whole thing about career and kids is something that varies from family to family. I would be more than happy for my wife to find a high paying job. The challenge was her English: when she arrived, she knew zero English as she has studied German. Now, she can hold her own in a conversation, but it will take some more studying before she is capable of writing fluently in English. Now, her focus for the next few years will be children, and after that I expect that she will either seek to upgrade her qualifications or perhaps study for a new profession.


Has nothing to do with MOB or not MOB, just the challenges that face most people immigrating to a new country and families doing their best to balance children and work and bills to be paid...

I hope your wife finds something that she can "own" outside of raising a family.  I have seen retired people sit around the house and almost lose their identity.  It isn't fun to watch nor, I can imagine, live. 


I think we all need something like that in order to stay healthy and happy.

[Misha]

I hope your wife finds something that she can "own" outside of raising a family.  I have seen retired people sit around the house and almost lose their identity.  It isn't fun to watch nor, I can imagine, live. 


I think we all need something like that in order to stay healthy and happy.

What exactly are you saying? What she can "own"? Yes, she paints, she takes photos, she does the occasional contract in her line of work, but she won't be rushing off to work when we have a newborn baby at home in a few months    Then again, I am fortunate as I qualify for a generous parental leave...

[Boethius]

Touché Muzh.

Let's go back to GQ's original post.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=15676.msg323549#msg323549

Every example he cited has been posted on this forum at some point.  So, uh, yeah.  It is reality.  Unless, of course, the man posting the example cited was lying.

[LiveFromUkraine]

What exactly are you saying? What she can "own"? Yes, she paints, she takes photos, she does the occasional contract in her line of work, but she won't be rushing off to work when we have a newborn baby at home in a few months    Then again, I am fortunate as I qualify for a generous parental leave...

Yeah, I was saying she needed something just for herself like the painting. 


Forgot to mention congrats, Misha.

[Boethius]

but she won't be rushing off to work when we have a newborn baby at home in a few months     

Congratulations.
 

[pitbull]

What exactly are you saying? What she can "own"? Yes, she paints, she takes photos, she does the occasional contract in her line of work, but she won't be rushing off to work when we have a newborn baby at home in a few months    Then again, I am fortunate as I qualify for a generous parental leave...

Misha, this is wonderful news, congratulations! Are you having a girl, just like every RWD-er who had a baby recently

[Misha]

Misha, this is wonderful news, congratulations! Are you having a girl, just like every RWD-er who had a baby recently

Thank you. The ultrasound technician told us it is likely to be a girl. We are both very happy and are now painting our second bedroom to make a nursery

[Ade]

Thank you. The ultrasound technician told us it is likely to be a girl. We are both very happy and are now painting our second bedroom to make a nursery

Congrats.


Just wait, nothing can prepare you for it no matter how much you read and think you know.


Now, off to clean a butt (again) before bed.


Oh, and check out this; http://www.4moms.com/mamaroo It's just the coolest swing/bouncer thing there is.

[Ranetka]

Thank you. The ultrasound technician told us it is likely to be a girl. We are both very happy and are now painting our second bedroom to make a nursery

Fantastic news, congratulations.

[Belvis]

I used to read the same, "Boethius you're a such a bitch, your poor husband, blah, blah, blah.  Thank God my (FSU) wife is nothing like you."   None of those posters is still married to his "wonderful wife".  Yet, my poor husband still comes home to a wife who greets him at the door with a kiss, a squeeze, and a smile.

Recipe for a happy marriage: find a bitch and do not care about her bitching.
Sigh... seems to be my case...

[Boethius]

That's what forums are for.  Direct her here.    Then, as in my case, she will be sweet and caring to her husband.

[Belvis]

That's what forums are for.  Direct her here.    Then, as in my case, she will be sweet and caring to you.

Too late. I get addicted to her bitching 

[Daveman]

Yep, but that's where you are the same as the majority and where GBQ is different.

and, you would know that how exactly? 
If the majority were exactly like me, you Russian ladies would be in an orgasmic emotional state 24/7.. guaranteed.  There would be no need for RW fora, or complaining.. (imagine that.. an RW with zero complaints).. yes, it would seem as if you had been touch by the Hand of God himself... only slightly exaggerated...


Ranetka, I'm sorry you had to go through something painful for you.  If you admire GQ, that's fine and dandy.  The way he describes his wife and marriage is admirable.  His situation (or mine, or...) is simply not all that different than many who have gone before or after.  And a few of those very close to identical have been listed in this thread.  I hope these are not truly the few, the proud, the exceptional.

And that's (part of) the point of the thread. 

[GQBlues]

What exactly are you saying? What she can "own"? Yes, she paints, she takes photos, she does the occasional contract in her line of work, but she won't be rushing off to work when we have a newborn baby at home in a few months    Then again, I am fortunate as I qualify for a generous parental leave...

WOW!!! Congratulations Misha. I do mean that sincerely! May she come into this world happy and peaceful...

*Alexandra* is taken just so you know...