I think this Russian woman scared off a Japanese woman

[lakecreek]

I'm at this entertainment center where people shop, watch movies, play games and eat. I was at this at this restaurant by myself eating lunch when this lady sat across from with a nice tight, low cut jeans. I ain't going to deny I did checked her out briefly, and she notice it. Then about a few moments late she decided to sit closer to me and we had a small conversation. She asked me do I come her a lot and I said I come here from time to time. After that I finished I told her it was nice meeting you and left. About a week later I wen to the video game center and saw this Japanese girl who comes there often with her friends. Me and her were talking about the newest games and PS4 that is coming out soon. As I was talking I saw through the window that Russian lady walked by and I think she saw me too because she came in and approached us. Then she saw me and the Japanese lady talking and the Russian lady gave her a mean look at the Japanese lady got spooked and she said she have to go. Then she started talking to me and after that incident happen I started to wonder what happen. Can anyone give me an idea what is going on here?

[ML]

After that I finished I told her it was nice meeting you and left.

 Can anyone give me an idea what is going on here?

You mean other than you being completely stupid ???

[I/O]

Can anyone give me an idea what is going on here?

Yep, you have no clue with women.

[Muzh]

T-R-O-L-L

[lakecreek]

Maybe I'm completely clueless but I think she went out of line. I think the Asian lady will be scared to see me again, she did look intimated by the Russian lady because was taller than she is and feel she could get hurt by her physically.

[mendeleyev]

Lakecreek, I don't want to put you down so will offer some helpful suggestions:

First, for the love of God please stay awake during Grammar class.

Moving forward, women build relationships by conversation, using their senses and \emotions. You did well in talking with the girl at first right up to the point when you said goodbye.

Here is something to learn and put into use with every woman you find interesting: Never leave her side just because you are nervous and have run out of things to say. Look her in the eye and say "you are so interesting that I am nervous and tongue-tied. I don't know what to say but I want to stay here and learn more about you."

Then shut up. Look at her but stay seated and keep quiet. She is a woman, they are naturals at this and she will pick up the conversation and in no time your friendship will grow.

Next tip: The worst time in the world to get up and walk away is when you are nervous and scared and every nerve in your body is screaming for you to get up and walk away. If, and only if there is a necessary reason at some point to leave, go into closing mode. Like a salesperson, you must close the next appointment. She did what sales professionals would call a "trial close" by asking "do you come here often?" You must learn to recognize the "buying signals." That wasn't a throw away line like so many guys ask too soon in a bar; the only reason in the world a woman would ask you that question is because she was interested in seeing you again.

Look her in the eye and say "I would really enjoy meeting you again. I'll be here (pick a day and time) and maybe we could grab a coffee/tea/gallon of moonshine/latte or whatever beverage you like. Here is my phone number in case something comes up and we could meet sooner."

She may give you her number or maybe not, but don't worry about it at this point. Don't ask her to write it down or enter it into her cell--that is junior high. Give it to her on a piece of paper or business card. Sell the next appointment right now and give her a nice compliment on how cool it was to spend time with her. Women are attracted to men who make them feel special, so plan ahead on a genuine compliment with every meeting.

The issue is not about a Russian girl versus the Japanese girl. Forget about that. Heck, practice your skills on them both until you are ready to settle on one or the other. The issue is you and how you must learn to entertain and attract a lady.

[cc3]

Lakecreek, just curious...what is your native language?     

[lakecreek]

Sorry there are errors but I was on lunch break and typing from my Android.

My native language is English. That is all I speak.

[lakecreek]

I left that day because I had to be at work. When you have a drop dead gorgeous Russian in front of you, you are going to get nervous at some level.

[BillyB]

You did well in talking with the girl at first right up to the point when you said goodbye.

I agree with you there but disagree with what you said below how Lakecreek should end the conversation.

Look her in the eye and say "you are so interesting that I am nervous and tongue-tied. I don't know what to say but I want to stay here and learn more about you."

I never show a woman I'm nervous. Lack of confidence is a turn off and women can smell the lack of confidence in a man. If this good looking woman is interested in Lakecreek, she initially feels he's equal or superior to herself. Lakecreek should not be nervous with a woman who is less or equal than himself.


If I don't have time to finish a conversation with a lady or I just run out of things to say, I tell her "I enjoyed our conversation but I have to go and would like to continue our conversation later" and then ask for her number. I don't offer my number because most RW think it's the man's job to call. I've dated RW who said they never call a man.


Lakecreek, because you had to go to work, you had a good reason to end the conversation but you did not know how to give yourself an opportunity to continue the conversation with the lady in the future. Your reasons for ending the conversation may have been you're nervous but she doesn't need to know that. Going to work is a good reason and she will admire you more since you're a man with purpose.


There was mention in another thread by RW that it's easy to have conversations with RW and that is true. When I was in the FSU, there were times in a cafe I had positive eye contact with a lady. That is a clue the lady may have interest in me. I would get up from my table, introduce myself, and ask if I can join the lady at her table and the answer was always "yes". 


One time I sat with a lady who was nervous with me and she was fiddling with something small in her fingers near her cheek. Each one of her breasts were the size of a human head so she had a lot of cleavage. The item in her fingers fell out and down her cleavage. I pretended it wasn't a big deal so she wouldn't be so embarrassed and carried the conversation as if nothing happened. 30 minutes later we got up to leave since she had to go to college. She went to the bathroom and came out with her hair looking nicer and wearing more cosmetics. I opened the door for her, exited the cafe, and offered my arm. She accepted and when we arrived at the metro, I again told her it was nice to meet her, leaned toward her to kiss goodbye on her cheek. It's a normal way to say goodbye to an FSU lady if a she likes you, she won't refuse your kiss.


When courting women, you don't have to be nervous. Let the ladies be nervous. The act of courting for you should be fun. Once you "get it" nobody will ever tell you that you're clueless again.

[mendeleyev]

I never show a woman I'm nervous.

Billy we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Women value honesty over machismo. Honesty about being nervous also sets them at ease and builds a level playing field for both parties.

Obviously being married I don't go around exchanging phone numbers, but again I would offer mine first. It shows balls as if you're not afraid of rejection and it doesn't make the girl feel like she is giving up something of personal security without you giving up something as well. These gals value leadership and being the first in giving up something in regards to personal security is leading.

However, do what works for you. 

[mies]

Me and her were talking about the newest games and PS4 that is coming out soon.
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 Can anyone give me an idea what is going on here?

yes .   What is going on  here is that the Russian probably wants to talk about something else than games. And that probably, she is interested in the normal serious men. Maybe she was fooled by your looks, or maybe she views you as the "project" - after some time and effort on her part you will be domesticated.

The japanese woman was scared off by the RUssian because the russian approached you two talking as if she had rights on you, as if you and the Russian were a couple whereas the japanese woman was flirting with the taken man, and the RW was jealous seeing you talking to another woman. Since japanese woman isn't your girlfriend, she suddenly felt uncomfortable because she was given a signal by the Russian woman that she got into the territory of another woman and isn't welcomed there. The japanese woman doesn't have serious/long-term/romantic plans about you, that's why she left.

[lakecreek]

yes .   What is going on  here is that the Russian probably wants to talk about something else than games. And that probably, she is interested in the normal serious men. Maybe she was fooled by your looks, or maybe she views you as the "project" - after some time and effort on her part you will be domesticated.

The japanese woman was scared off by the RUssian because the russian approached you two talking as if she had rights on you, as if you and the Russian were a couple whereas the japanese woman was flirting with the taken man, and the RW was jealous seeing you talking to another woman. Since japanese woman isn't your girlfriend, she suddenly felt uncomfortable because she was given a signal by the Russian woman that she got into the territory of another woman and isn't welcomed there. The japanese woman doesn't have serious/long-term/romantic plans about you, that's why she left.

Thanks for your input seem like you were on it.  Anyways days later I saw her again we talked and exchanged phone numbers and ask her for a date. She said yes immediately. Go out on the date and I meet up with her, omg she dress to kill. She was hot!! We went out for wine tasting and had dinner afterwards. I also loved her accent. After the date she text me before she went bed saying she had fun.

We went on a few more dates and things got a little more touchy. She then had me spend the night over her place. I was a bit nervous since I didn't know her all that well, but I did anyway. Once i saw her take off her shirt I knew were this was heading. Had great sex, I was shock because I thought Russians don't have sex before marriage.

[ML]

Had great sex, I was shock because I thought Russians don't have sex before marriage.

Yes, you are right.  It virtually never happens.

So I think this was was not a RW;  she was merely impersonating one.

She worked on the accent a long time to try to perfect it.

[Patagonie]

Billy we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Women value honesty over machismo. Honesty about being nervous also sets them at ease and builds a level playing field for both parties.

Obviously being married I don't go around exchanging phone numbers, but again I would offer mine first. It shows balls as if you're not afraid of rejection and it doesn't make the girl feel like she is giving up something of personal security without you giving up something as well. These gals value leadership and being the first in giving up something in regards to personal security is leading.

However, do what works for you. 

I disagree totally and i am with BillyB at 200 % on this. .

Before i have been a gamer, i was thinking that i would be rewarded and noticed for the high respect i can give to a lady by just letting my personal card to let her call me back.
Additionnaly a lot of guys who are doing this are mainly doing it because they are suffering of a high fear (the fear of rejection) and they find some good excuses.

Let me tell you i have followed the path you talk about for two decades and changed all for few years.

The difference is amazing, simply.

The maximum rate (ROI) or phone calls you can expect by letting your card is 10%. In 90 % (i would say more) you would never see the girl again.
Contrary to what many men believe women reward confidence , audacity and if you can surprise them. Of course you must stay elegant and put humour in the package, so you can enter in their heaven.
You need to get the important and capital idea that they don't want to have 100 % direct power on what can happen to them. For the same physical, between the guy after two dates who "respects" her by just looking her and the guy who suddenly kiss her in the dark before exiting the parking, i can tell you who is the winner.
The man is expected to make action, and to force destiny, not too much, but not to less. He just must show "HOW" he want her. Women respect such men, provided of course they are interested in them. It is the job of the man to pass all the tricks she will push through his journey and to keep her focused on him. 
You have the stage of the first dating and getting her phone number. Here starts the stage "phone game".
The only goal to get her number is to go on stage 2 : the second date, alone.
And after third date.....
Each stage you get don't mean that you will arrive on the final destination.

last thing : explaining your nervousness and all around what you are feeling for her during the first meeting is a strong dial breaker
in relationship attraction for women. I strongly recommend to any men to don't fall in such pitfall. Anything who pushs you in an inferior position of any sort shoul be avoided (except if you do it intentionnaly by joking because you have a strong sense of humour). The i "i fall in love in one hour" is a common disease among men, and show just to the 8 and 9 that you are a puppet in the usual crowd.
You should avoid "i just want you to tell you how i am troubled" in the beginning because it is a common fantasm vehiculed by movies and litterature but in the real life, that makes women run away.
I have screwed up a lot of my relationships for two decades by doing this. 

[ML]

Pat, you are on the right track; but there is a much simpler approach.

"I want you very much, and I cannot wait!!"

[lakecreek]

I will be upset if lied to find out she not really Russian. But last lady I knew she was Russian too, but she was traditional. Russian in general from what I see are really great as long you respect them. I would like marry one in the future. About 2 years I study some Russian language, so I can expand my network for future careers. Russian culture is pretty interesting.