Boston marathon bombers are Chechens?

[mendeleyev]

I have no idea whether they did or didn't do the bombings. Lets say they did.

Still the White House and ICE mishandled the Saudi case in reporting to the American people. It was not done in a transparent manner and as a result the conspiracy theories, both here and abroad, will be in full gear.

[pitbull]

I have no idea whether they did or didn't do the bombings. Lets say they did.

 the conspiracy theories, both here and abroad, will be in full gear.

Oh yes, they will, regardless of the Saudi case

[Boethius]

The first suspect was killed during a chase in which the brothers threw explosive devices out the window, had shot and killed on police officer who did not even know of their existence, and, they were shooting at the police, who returned fire.  So, it wasn't "shoot first".

The police are currently searching apartment buildings, and want to take the suspect alive.  I can't imagine they would wish him dead, as there is a good chance the Chechens did not act alone, and the police would wish to interrogate him.

I think it was a Boston police source who first reported on the Saudi, at least, that is how it was reported in the Boston Globe and on CNN.

[GQBlues]

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The police are currently searching apartment buildings, and want to take the suspect alive.  I can't imagine they would wish him dead, as there is a good chance the Chechens did not act alone, and the police would wish to interrogate him.

Shame on you, they can wish all they want but we no longer waterboard anyone    We're out of practice.
 
If they do capture the guy, and he in fact is one of the guys who did the bombing, I think they should put him in the room with the guy who ran the marathon and had his entire family fall victim to this crime.
 
I'm still interested to know when did backpacks look just like shopping paper bags.

[Muzh]

Boy, how quickly it went from "Marathon Bombing" to "Political Shenanigans."

Right on!!!

[BillyB]

It doesn't matter if innocent or not, the shoot first and ask questions after dead mentality of most US police in general says to me that they'd be dead no matter of innocence or guilt.

I wouldn't mind them dead. They left a sloppy trail of violent and deadly crime even a dummy could follow. If the other guy dies and there's nobody to convict, some people will never believe them guilty or create conspiracy theories but if the cops catch the wrong guys, there will be more bombings and the cops will look silly. I don't think they want to look silly. They got the right guys in their cross hairs.

[Faux Pas]

Okay, all the information we really have is, two young guys were tagged from surveillance tape as possible suspects. This is after the injured Saudi and at least two others (that later turned themselves into police) were named as possible suspects. Then, 3 days after the bombing 2 Chechen brothers were named as suspects. They are Muslim, familiar with American sentiment, especially after a bombing toward Muslims, what might I do if I were in their position? I'm not sure.


"We" don't know that they built and ignited such a bomb. We don't "know" they they robbed a convenience store and killed a cop. We don't know that they threw IED devices at some cops that were chasing them. All we really know is, one of them is dead and the other has yet to be found and an entire city is in lock down because of a kid, barely out of high school. Something stinks to high heaven.

I do not think he will be brought in alive. Never underestimate the power of authority to prove "it's" case. No matter what that case is. Does anyone remember Benghazi and the supposed offending video on Youtube?

[Hammer2722]

They were from the Dagestan region (radically Muslim) of Russia. It doesn't matter if innocent or not, the shoot first and ask questions after dead mentality of most US police in general says to me that they'd be dead no matter of innocence or guilt. If one is taken alive, that will add credibility to the FBI case. If not....

Given where they're from, courts don't exactly have the best of reputations. Do you know what the acquittal rate is for Russia's judicial system? Less than 1%. In Russia, if arrested you are DE facto guilty.

I don't know how long you've been living in Russia Mendy, but it makes absolutely no sense for the authorities to want to shoot first. They surely want to find out if their were others involved in this bombing. How will they do this if all the known suspects were killed outright without being interrogated first?

[Faux Pas]

I wouldn't mind them dead. They left a sloppy trail of violent and deadly crime even a dummy could follow. If the other guy dies and there's nobody to convict, some people will never believe them guilty or create conspiracy theories but if the cops catch the wrong guys, there will be more bombings and the cops will look silly. I don't think they want to look silly. They got the right guys in their cross hairs.

Why didn't you tell us 4 days ago it was two young Chechen brothers?

[BillyB]

"We" don't know that they built and ignited such a bomb. We don't "know" they they robbed a convenience store and killed a cop. We don't know that they threw IED devices at some cops that were chasing them. All we really know is, one of them is dead and the other has yet to be found and an entire city is in lock down because of a kid, barely out of high school. Something stinks to high heaven.

 You can convince me of a few bad cops but there are many honest and decent cops out there that want to catch the right guys. They don't have to tell us everything now pertaining to evidence but if an police officer of integrity doesn't believe he's chasing the right guys, he's going to speak up. After the next guy goes down, I don't think we are going to have these style of bombings anymore.


Besides the father, the guy's uncle on tv is asking his nephew to turn himself in and ask forgiveness for what he's done to the victims. Do you think his uncle is in on it with the cops?

[mendeleyev]

Interesting read:

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/behind-the-chechen-islamic-terrorist-bombing-in-boston/

[lordtiberius]

Obama should sign an executive order banning bombs.

[Faux Pas]

You can convince me of a few bad cops but there are many honest and decent cops out there that want to catch the right guys. They don't have to tell us everything now pertaining to evidence but if an police officer of integrity doesn't believe he's chasing the right guys, he's going to speak up. After the next guy goes down, I don't think we are going to have these style of bombings anymore.

Who said anything about bad cops? Cops like any other paramilitary group follows orders.

Besides the father, the guy's uncle on tv is asking his nephew to turn himself in and ask forgiveness for what he's done to the victims. Do you think his uncle is in on it with the cops?

You've not been following the story, have you?

[BillyB]

Who said anything about bad cops? Cops like any other paramilitary group follows orders.

I was in the Army and guess what? I have a brain and conscience and I'm as free as you are to use those to think for myself. If my superiors tell me to shoot an innocent, helpless child, I don't have to follow orders.

You've not been following the story, have you?

Ok, you tell me the story and then tell me why you know it better than anyone in Boston. Obama representing the federal government, state of Massachusetts, city of Boston, and cops at all levels are looking to frame a couple of innocent young men for a bombing our own government committed? Is that the story?

[GQBlues]

This is in response to Mendy's Word Press article...
 
Earlier, I told wifey this morning that the authorities killed a Boston bomber suspect and was hunting down another. They apparently are brothers. I purposely left out the fact the suspects were Chechen. I figured she'll find out herself eventually.
 
So I just got a text from her clarifiying if indeed the suspects were from Chechnya. I think maybe a co-worker likely mentioned it. I responded 'yes'. Her response..." This is very upsetting. Even more upsetting is the fact they are from Russia...f*ck!..I bet not many people remember that we also fought with them.!"

[Shadow]

Okay, all the information we really have is, two young guys were tagged from surveillance tape as possible suspects. This is after the injured Saudi and at least two others (that later turned themselves into police) were named as possible suspects. Then, 3 days after the bombing 2 Chechen brothers were named as suspects. They are Muslim, familiar with American sentiment, especially after a bombing toward Muslims, what might I do if I were in their position? I'm not sure.


"We" don't know that they built and ignited such a bomb. We don't "know" they they robbed a convenience store and killed a cop. We don't know that they threw IED devices at some cops that were chasing them. All we really know is, one of them is dead and the other has yet to be found and an entire city is in lock down because of a kid, barely out of high school. Something stinks to high heaven.

I do not think he will be brought in alive. Never underestimate the power of authority to prove "it's" case. No matter what that case is. Does anyone remember Benghazi and the supposed offending video on Youtube?

I agree here. On the other hand if they are Chechens and did commit those crimes, the guy who is still alive will be wondering how the hell it is possible he has not yet been shot.... just look at how they handle terrorists locally in Chechnya..

[Faux Pas]

I was in the Army and guess what? I have a brain and conscience and I'm as free as you are to use those to think for myself. If my superiors tell me to shoot an innocent, helpless child, I don't have to follow orders.



Ok, you tell me the story and then tell me why you know it better than anyone in Boston. Obama representing the federal government, state of Massachusetts, city of Boston, and cops at all levels are looking to frame a couple of innocent young men for a bombing our own government committed? Is that the story?

Well that is certainly arguable 

This is the same Billyb that just a few posts earlier wish the the 2nd guy dead. You apparently don't need any facts to make a rational decision, you just believe what you are told. You were in the what, Army? Yeah, let's try, convict and execute a 19 year old kid because of what you saw on the news. 

[Faux Pas]

This is in response to Mendy's Word Press article...
 
Earlier, I told wifey this morning that the authorities killed a Boston bomber suspect and was hunting down another. They apparently are brothers. I purposely left out the fact the suspects were Chechen. I figured she'll find out herself eventually.
 
So I just got a text from her clarifiying if indeed the suspects were from Chechnya. I think maybe a co-worker likely mentioned it. I responded 'yes'. Her response..." This is very upsetting. Even more upsetting is the fact they are from Russia...f*ck!..I bet not many people remember that we also fought with them.!"

Take it one step farther, it is imperative that our leaders keep a "boogeyman" front and center. Last week it was Kim Jong Un. Then as quick as a bombing it was a Saudi, then a Malaysian, then something else (I forgot), no it's Chechens. The blog Mendy posted, the author is correct. You can't believe what you are seeing in the mainstream media outlets as the facts or the truth. That is just another tool of those that control it.

I don't know if these Chechen nationals did the bomb. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. It's not the point. The point is that the Billyb's of the world believe they did

[GQBlues]

As if by design...apparently the hunted suspect was naturalized on September 11. They are just still 'suspects' until proven guilty, correct?

[Faux Pas]

As if by design...apparently the hunted suspect was naturalized on September 11. They are just still 'suspects' until proven guilty, correct?

The "perception" should never be overlooked. There has been a lot of egg on the face's here lately and  the powers that be do not "cotton" to looking bad. Benghazi, Sequestration, latest attempt at gun control beaten like a red headed step child. Now a bomb at the Boston Marathon. They need us to be afraid and they need us to believe that only they can protect us.

Ideally, they are just suspects until proven guilty but, dead men tell no tales

[BillyB]

 

You apparently don't need any facts to make a rational decision, you just believe what you are told.

I have faith in our best and brightest local, state, and federal law enforcers do get it right after reviewing all the evidence. Unlike you, I don't need to see the evidence of every crime scene or be at every trial in existence to be satisfied if someone is guilty or innocent.
 
If those two guys were innocent, running away, hiding, shooting cops, killing a security guard, and committing other crimes are the wrong way to tell the world "I'm innocent".  If they don't like dealing with cops, they can turn themselves in to a journalist or priest. How about a little sypathy for the victims instead of criminals? They are criminals unless you think the victims who survived to tell their story are in it with the government too to frame two innocent people.
 

They need us to be afraid and they need us to believe that only they can protect us.

Who's they? Aliens? Obama/federal government? I don't approve of many of Obama's policies but I will defend him as I did Bush during the 9/11 attacks. What goes through your guy's minds to think one of the best governments in the world is one of the worst? If Obama did have a hand on this evil, you need to blame everybody you voted for too. Democrats, Republicans, federal cops, state cops, local cops, military, etc....for all collaborating the Boston bombing and/or staying silent on a crime committed by our governement. Silly isn't it? Still sticking to that story? Paranoia will destroya.

[noelscot]

The USA has a police mentality of kill first, assume answers later and that troubles me even more than the no questions should be asked until bones are broken and blood is running mentality of Russian police.

Look at the history of law enforcement in America regarding capturing big name criminals without killing them--Tim McVeigh, Eric Robert Rudolph, Ted Kaczinski, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez, etc. Certainly, as a journalist, you can see that there is a HUGE difference between the American and Russian police?


 

[GQBlues]

...Last week it was Kim Jong Un. Then as quick as a bombing it was a Saudi, then a Malaysian, then something else (I forgot), no it's Chechens.

Arrgghhh! The AXIS of EVIL LIVES! IT's ALIVE!!!! No. not Elvis, the AXIS of EVIL!
 
I hope the real bombers get caught and made to pay for their crime - slowly. I just get fed up with the whole mainstream news determining *what* we need to know. They still  haven't reported what happened to the Stevens investigation.
 
Anyway, it is of interest to note than when 9/11 tragedy happened, it was coupled with that silly Anthrax mail attack. Now this Boston bombing is coupled with another silly Ricin mail attack. WTF, eh?
 
I do miss Kim Jung Un in the headlines though... he looks just like an Asian doughboy with a Hitler haircut.

[Gator]

For the four RWD members (CG,FP, GQ and Mendy)  convinced of a conspiracy theory, you should feel your conviction strengthened by the fact that the person who knows  the two Tsarnaev brothers the best agrees with you.  That would be their father Anzor Tsarnaev, who says his sons were framed.  He also says his younger son Dzhokhar is a "true angel."
 
Geez!

[CanadaMan]

As if by design...apparently the hunted suspect was naturalized on September 11. They are just still 'suspects' until proven guilty, correct?

Correct, just as Bin Laden was just a suspect until he was proven guilty.