Thoughts on returning to Russia...what women are looking for.

[Muzh]

Not a question of knowing better, simply a matter of understanding that a person's emotions influence their subjectivity. The best time to ask a person for an opinion that will be more balanced is once they have settled in to their new lives, once the euphoria has passed, once the culture shock negativity has passed, etc...

And how this differs from 'knowing better?'

[Misha]

And how this differs from 'knowing better?'

Quite simple: I asked how long she has been in Russia, and she said one month. For most people, this is not long enough to be settled in yet. It is called a rational prediction based on likely scenarios founded upon observed behaviour of individuals over many years...

[Muzh]

Quite simple: I asked how long she has been in Russia, and she said one month. For most people, this is not long enough to be settled in yet. It is called a rational prediction based on likely scenarios founded upon observed behaviour of individuals over many years...

My Lord!!

And how this is NOT "knowing better?'

You already analyzed the patient and she should be expecting your bill in the mail.

[Misha]

My Lord!!

And how this is NOT "knowing better?'

You already analyzed the patient and she should be expecting your bill in the mail.

Muzh, you might want to read what the "patient" has already written: "But I am curious myself what I am going to feel like later" If anything, Vasilisa has already acknowledged that her thoughts and feelings are likely to change...

[Vasilisa]

Muzh, you might want to read what the "patient" has already written: "But I am curious myself what I am going to feel like later" If anything, Vasilisa has already acknowledged that her thoughts and feelings are likely to change...

Not likely, but I have never stayed in Russia for such a long time for ages. I am sure it will not change in 3 months' time though.

[Misha]

Not likely, but I have never stayed in Russia for such a long time for ages. I am sure it will not change in 3 months' time though.

Three months would still be too soon. But, again, time always tells 

[Muzh]

Tell you what. I will let Ade slap you around. I'm not getting into this inane conversation.
 
Dude, you have one hell of a problem.

[Misha]

Tell you what. I will let Ade slap you around. I'm not getting into this inane conversation.
 
Dude, you have one hell of a problem.

I expect as much 

[pitbull]

"Spiritual" and "romantic" women, so-called "Тургеневские барышни" looking for love and soulmates are not doing very well there,

I don't think modern Russia is a good place for "Spiritual" and "romantic" women, so-called "Тургеневские барышни" either. 

[Boethius]

Not likely, but I have never stayed in Russia for such a long time for ages. I am sure it will not change in 3 months' time though.

I suspect you were not unhappy with your life in Russia before you married, so it is unlikely your feelings will change. 

[Daveman]

Welcome back to Russia, Vasilisa!


Good see you haven't lost your flair for inspiration! 


I hope you find the happiness you seek.. best of luck in your new old surroundings!

[JohnDearGreen]

-In Russia you have a lot wider choice on what to have and what not to have. You can have a car but you don’t have to have a car especially if you live in a big city.

I can understand why you didn't like driving in Texas.  Many people here are incredibly rude when they get behind a steering wheel.  It wasn't so much that way in some other states I've lived in.  But overall, I would consider the large cities in Texas reasonably good places to live.

[Voyager36]

Thoughts after coming back.
I am safely at home now, I’ve spent some time with my family and friends and decided to share some of my thoughts about online search and international dating.

Vasilisa, did you live in other parts of the US or only Texas? (sorry if this was answered already)

[Ooooops]

... I’ve met a lot of Russian women living in the US, I have never seen a non-materialistic RW living in the US! ... When you start asking them about their life in the US and Russia they always start telling about the things they could have never afforded in Russia and they can afford in the US now: to compare the cars they have with the cars of their ex classmates in Russia, how many trips abroad they can afford now, etc. They never tell about the BETTER personal qualities of the AM they have. Moreover, they start threads about how hard it is to discuss some things with their AM as they have a different cultural background and are never “on the same level”. ...

WOW!   Just WOW!  Nice reference group...   

[Vasilisa]

Vasilisa, did you live in other parts of the US or only Texas? (sorry if this was answered already)

I lived in Chicago and New York, too.

[Vasilisa]

WOW!   Just WOW!  Nice reference group...   

"Wow" was the first word I said when I came to the New Year's party of the RW living in the US for the first time...

[Ooooops]

"Wow" was the first word I said when I came to the New Year's party of the RW living in the US for the first time...

Run, Forest, run!!!   


No, seriously, what you described sounds like bunch of not-too-bright jabbermouths.   Where they all MOB? 

[Voyager36]

I lived in Chicago and New York, too.

After you left your husband I guess?
Did you feel more comfortable in New York where there were many Russians?
Did your husband ever try to learn Russian? Learn about your culture?
(Sorry for all the questions, just curious)

[Vasilisa]

Run, Forest, run!!!   


No, seriously, what you described sounds like bunch of not-too-bright jabbermouths.   Where they all MOB? 

Oooooops, it was MY experience, and yes, I met some exclusively family-oriented,  romantic  and shy women, too, but they didn't make it well there, some of them returned home, some stayed in shelters of any kinds, had to raise kids there as it was time for the boys to go to the Russian army or everything in Russia was sold, money spent, etc so there was no place to come back.

[Vasilisa]

After you left your husband I guess?
Did you feel more comfortable in New York where there were many Russians?
Did your husband ever try to learn Russian? Learn about your culture?
(Sorry for all the questions, just curious)

Voyager, I have a thread about my personal experience, so I wouldn't like to talk about it in all threads around the forum.

[Ooooops]

... I met some exclusively family-oriented,  romantic  and shy women...

Eeeerrr....  How this reply correlates with my question?        But after reading about your experience and your thoughts about comparing Russia with USA I can understand better what made you move back.

[Voyager36]

Voyager, I have a thread about my personal experience, so I wouldn't like to talk about it in all threads around the forum.

Apologies, I will look for the other thread.

I met some exclusively family-oriented,  romantic  and shy women

Why do you think these relationships didn't work out?

[Ooooops]

Anyway, my post wasn't for RWor RM, so I don't see the point in discussing it with other Russians here, everyone will have his or her own opinion,  it was for AM(especially older AM) looking for young beautiful RW hoping to find the woman that will love them, not their money and their country. Hopefully they will understand what I mean and make conclusions.

Oh, I see...   Ok, I'll leave this battlefield to "older AM" then...   

[JohnDearGreen]

What is your "game plan" for meeting men in Russia?  I assume you have given up on the long distance relationships (which are always risky).

[Vasilisa]

What is your "game plan" for meeting men in Russia?  I assume you have given up on the long distance relationships (which are always risky).

I haven't given up on foreign men.  I still plan on traveling and meeting people. God knows where it is going to end. I don't have any particular plan. But I have to say that I hadn't tried active local dating before meeting my AH, so I am trying to see what it looks like and compare things. 3 days ago I got registered on the Russian website and tomorrow will have 2 Skype conversations with RM. I want to have children very much but unfortunately didn't have them in my marriage, so I decided to look for single dads in Russia.
So far the main observation is that they really want to talk, see me  and meet in person as soon as possible. As they are from different cities I am not sure I am ready for this yet. I am NOT telling I have a condo.
When I was on the American dating website in the US men preferred to chat in the messenger and exchange a lot of text messages.