Russian dating sites it took a long time but now I can say there is an option!

[steveboy]

Hello everyone,
I would like to introduce myself, my name is Stefan Hendrick and I am the operator of one of the only genuine Russian dating sites on the net today.
If your thinking this is a spam message read further! A little about myself first, Im from the UK but presently living in St Petersburg, feel free to find me in Facebook or linkedin. And feel free to add me there and ask any questions. Mine is a long story how I became involved in the Russian dating thing it started about 7 years ago, during that time all to do with Russian dating I have done and bought the t shirt lol. Travelled extensively all over Eastern Europe. I know Moscow and St petersburg like the back of my hand as well as learning to speak Russian pretty good, Russian dating sites! done them all! the bottom line is 97% are a total waste of time effort and money. I had some pretty good experiences on a few but in general most sites are plagued by scammers and fakes, though if your not stupid it is something you need never worry about. Another big point I have noticed is all these Russian dating forums seem to have the same old boring stories about being scammed on the same old boring sites lol. The bottom line is I noticed a huge gap in the market for a GENUINE Russian dating site, which was operated by a genuine person with a big interest in Russia , Russian life and culture. Four years ago I set about building my own Russian dating site, its been a long trip along the way I have had all sorts of problems and you think scammers are a problem! I have had competition trying to do all sorts of things. Finally I have created one of the most genuine sites on the net, we have over 300 new women each week signing up.
I have learnt over the years all the sites offering "Scam control" bla bla bla its total busllshit, most do not even make the effort!
There is only one genuine scam control and that is to have someone online monitoring the ladies 24/7.

So why am I here? To promote my site? Not really, so much so Im going to give 10 guys the chance to put my site to the test. The first 10 guys to sign up I will give a full 12 months FREE Gold membership allowing unlimited communication, exchange of contact details with the ladies. All you need do is register and send me via email your profile number, you can mail me here or contact me via Facebook just search Stefan Hendrick.

At the same time any guys ever visiting St Petersburg feel free to message me, Im happy to give any advise or meet up for a beer or any information you may need in Russia there is little I do not know about:)

You can also find information about myself by Googling "Englishrussian"

Lets finally get a quality site out there. And to any moderators! check me out becouse when it comes to Russia, Russian dating, Russian life and culture you will not find a better person with a wealth of valuable knowledge for your members.

Bridesandlovers.com   

[Steamer]

Oh yippee! Another BS site to screw romantic US schlubs.

[steveboy]

Dont judge a book by its cover mate! obviously you got screwed over during your experiences and now you feel you need to share your experiences on this forum

[mendeleyev]

Steve, from your original post one can see that you love those long run-on sentences with no paragraph breaks and my first piece of advice is to hire a grammar girl to come in and do some housekeeping on the site. Don't rush her as she is going to be busy for awhile.

The search software leads me to think that you're an affiliate of some larger agency group, or am I mistaken? Those relationships tend to dilute transparency and generate duplicate profiles so that is why I ask.

Is your personal success story of your own successful marriage on the site? I didn't see it.


As to this claim on your "Travel2Gether"

Bridesandlovers.com    travel  together , where you can post an ad and meet up with   Russian and Former Soviet Union countries ladies for holidays, vacations or business trips. The ideal place to meet up with a Russian   bride.

(ah, the swap called "you pay for the trip, I'll put out nightly and in the daytime go shopping on your dime cause you can't get laid at home" holiday.)

Are you single and prefer not to travel        alone?Looking for a Holiday partner?		Find travel partners whose interests &        plans mesh with yours!
Are you married or in relationship and        partner can't get away?		Find a person to travel with whose situation        is similar! Travel together on Holiday

(As a married man yourself, how many married persons have your found to be okay with a spouse taking off on holiday with someone of the opposite sex for a week or two?)

[steveboy]

No no!! I am no affiliate! As I said you can find me in Facebook. My site is 100% totally bespoke  it has taken 4 years to develope the site.
Did I find my wife on my site? Of course not! I did the Russian dating site thing nearly a decade ago I met mine during the course of my travels

If you check out Yandex or Google Ukraine for the main key words in Russian "Dating with foreigners" "International dating" you will see exactly where the ladies come from we have no affiliates or agency women.
The main point of the site is to put REAL women in front of REAL men.

As for the travel together section Im sure you know as well as I do 50% of the Russian dating thing is used by players on both sides!

St Petersburg is full of guys coming over for just some fun and nothing else. Its just ad added feature and guys and girls are free to do as they wish.

The bottom line the site has REAL women for Real men.

Yes sorry for by bad grammar

[mendeleyev]

You can also find information about myself by Googling "Englishrussian"

Didn't find anything until adding your name, then found a lot. You have some decent articles.

I'm curious as to whether you still offer your free service including free contact information at your other website or is this site going to replace that one?
 

[steveboy]

No I first started a Contact site about 5 years ago a little like bride.ru but gave up on it a few years back its old hat! just like bride.ru 

[mendeleyev]

As for the travel together section Im sure you know as well as I do 50% of the Russian dating thing is used by players on both sides!

St Petersburg is full of guys coming over for just some fun and nothing else. Its just ad added feature and guys and girls are free to do as they wish.

The bottom line the site has REAL women for Real men.

Ah ha, at first I thought this was a dating and marriage site. But it seems that I was mistaken, it is a FUN site.

Well thank goodness you've gotten rid of the fun scammers--hate those rascals. No man wants to deal with someone whose passport hasn't been checked when he's traveling for a little FUN. 

[steveboy]

It is far from a fun site! it is one of the ONLY genuine sites on the net.

But Im going to be honest with you here and say the Russian dating thing only has several more years to run before it is finished! No more Russian brides sites and no more forums with men complaining about being scammed

Make the most of it.

[steveboy]

There is a big problem in the Russian dating business and that is trying to educate some guys , I know so many women who tell the same story and have seen it in my own site.
For some reason 75% of guys who sign to a Russian brides site are under the illusion they will be able to pick up a women 25/35 years younger than themselves. If you are 70 years old you simply will not find yourself a young 20 something Russian bride that is fact, but its the 75% of stupid guys who actually fuel the whole Russian brides scammer business.

If guys used their brains instead of what is in their trousers there would be NO scammers

[mendeleyev]

No I first started a Contact site about 5 years ago a little like bride.ru but gave up on it a few years back its old hat! just like bride.ru

A Google search of your name brings up the free address site of www.email2female.com. Is that the contact site?

It is far from a fun site! it is one of the ONLY genuine sites on the net.

Wait, now it isn't fun? I'm getting confused.

Genuine at what? You've said that 50% are players so would they care about a site being genuine if it isn't fun? Or perhaps it is the other 50% of non players who find it genuine but not fun?

But Im going to be honest with you here

My red flags fly at the top of the mast when someone tells me "I'm going to be honest..." which most police officers will tell you ranks right up there with "I've only had a couple of beers tonight, officer." (hiccup)


What is ending, the demographic imbalance? Maybe the desire to seek a quality mate will be overcome by the desire to defy St. Petersburgs new restrictive laws on gays and lesbians?

Or is it perhaps the idea that RW will no longer need WM for economic stability? But wait, what about LOVE?

Help me understand this idea that RW will not longer be interested in marriage, Steve.

But you've encouraged us to make the most of it while it lasts (what is it, by the way?) and to have FUN. If we're not getting married, what kind of FUN are we having?

[mendeleyev]

If guys used their brains instead of what is in their trousers there would be NO scammers

I wouldn't say "NO" scammers, but you and I have found common ground on this one, Steve.

[steveboy]

I see the evidence every day and even have some of these old guys report the women for abuse becouse they refuse their advances.

But I guess when a huge majority of US guys sign up to a Russian dating site still thinking Russia is a communist country and that even taking photos in the country is ilegal what more can you expect.
Guys need to do some big research on Russia, Russian life and culture before embarking on these adventures

[steveboy]

I think even players are going to want to sign up to a site that is genuine ? I mean why would they sign up to a site full of scammers! 75% of Russian women who register at these sites only do so out of curiosity and most will not return after 2/3 weeks. Finding real love on a Russian dating site is not an easy task.

The main point here is a site with REAL women.

Email2femail.com was my first attempt to create a dating site. I closed that site 2 years ago.

"Im going to be honest" well I think if I really pointed out some honest opinions of the Russian dating site thing many guys would give up

As I said your welcome to find me in Facebook and another point my site doesn't hide behind any proxy names.

I think you are slightly going off the issue here.

[steveboy]

"Help me understand this idea that RW will not longer be interested in marriage, Steve. "

I guess RW will evolve to survive just like any other business ?

[Fishingguy]

steveboy,

thanks! your site is awesome. I found two wonderful women that I have emailing everyday and can't wait for their emails. Sooner or later I'll probably have to decide...

[Patagonie]

Steve
i spent a long time during my search, and especially during the beginning, to lurk dozens and dozens sites and agencies' sites. I agree with you that more than 95% are crap or not professionals.
I like what you do and what you think. Good mark for the last date of connection.
But sorry your first page don't put you away from the others.
Example :

Genuine Russian brides Customer Support Detailed  Profiles Easy Membership Plans [/c][/c][/c]

Easy Payments Live Chat Online    Ukrainian Brides Long established site
I have seen this type of hundreds of time, let me tell you that "easy payments" had never been something who help me to choice a site  , quite the opposite.
The genuine passport verified is shit. I have met on EM two verified passport, they were prodaters, this is crap.
British manage sites, for me it is the first reason to avoid your site, because go between are just adding costs and make me lose my time with girls. FSU people are the ones who hold the girls and the way to go. What you miss is to show how your connection with FSU is unique.
At first sight your site is not different than all others sites. The fact that you don't allow non register people to see the whole profile is a very bad point, i would have drop you in the seconds and choice an other.
You should look Mark Davies site. It is quite easy to quickly understand how his way to do is really different from other people in the business. And sorry, but your site don't sell your "genuine" intention.
You have a huge work to reorganize your site. Like Mendy, and i am not a native english speaker, you have to work on what is written also, the first page is a mess, you have plenty space on the right not used.
You link Check our Prices and payment methods don't work.
But the most important is that : what are going to tell to your customer to make you are really different from an other.

I would like to hear :

I am married to an FSU girl, i am english guy, and i have decided to do something different of the 97% of sites which are just abusing men all over the world. Why ? because i have spent X years to search my wife and realise how it is difficult to meet genuine people......

we are just a site who welcome true people wanting a relationship. The traffic is monitored. No fake profile or fake correspondance like many sites. We record women's identities.

You pay every month XX $ (make it clear)

etc etc .....

[steveboy]

Steve
i spent a long time during my search, and especially during the beginning, to lurk dozens and dozens sites and agencies' sites. I agree with you that more than 95% are crap or not professionals.
I like what you do and what you think. Good mark for the last date of connection.
But sorry your first page don't put you away from the others.
Example :

Genuine Russian brides Customer Support Detailed  Profiles Easy Membership Plans [/c][/c][/c]

Easy Payments Live Chat Online    Ukrainian Brides Long established site
I have seen this type of hundreds of time, let me tell you that "easy payments" had never been something who help me to choice a site  , quite the opposite.
The genuine passport verified is shit. I have met on EM two verified passport, they were prodaters, this is crap.
British manage sites, for me it is the first reason to avoid your site, because go between are just adding costs and make me lose my time with girls. FSU people are the ones who hold the girls and the way to go. What you miss is to show how your connection with FSU is unique.
At first sight your site is not different than all others sites. The fact that you don't allow non register people to see the whole profile is a very bad point, i would have drop you in the seconds and choice an other.
You should look Mark Davies site. It is quite easy to quickly understand how his way to do is really different from other people in the business. And sorry, but your site don't sell your "genuine" intention.
You have a huge work to reorganize your site. Like Mendy, and i am not a native english speaker, you have to work on what is written also, the first page is a mess, you have plenty space on the right not used.
You link Check our Prices and payment methods don't work.
But the most important is that : what are going to tell to your customer to make you are really different from an other.

I would like to hear :

I am married to an FSU girl, i am english guy, and i have decided to do something different of the 97% of sites which are just abusing men all over the world. Why ? because i have spent X years to search my wife and realise how it is difficult to meet genuine people......

we are just a site who welcome true people wanting a relationship. The traffic is monitored. No fake profile or fake correspondance like many sites. We record women's identities.

You pay every month XX $ (make it clear)

etc etc .....

I have spent more times on more sites than you have ever even thought off! Been to meet more girls than you could imagine and traveled all over Eastern Europe for many years meeting all sorts of women, hookers, models, students, money launders  I drew the line at babushkas! I live In Russia
About five years ago I realised there was a huge gap for a genuine Russian dating site. That is what I run!! Everything is transparent , I do not hide the ownership, I have nothing to hide! As for scammers, I know the scammer lark inside out very very few ever get to the site if they do they do not stay long) real women? well my site is top position in Yandex and Google Ukraine for all the top keywords (Im specialist at search marketing) so I have more women joining each day than all the other sites other than cupid , which I will surpass shortly:) The site was originally built the same style as rbrides but is moving away from that theme as development is still taking place, Rome wasn't built in a day? Other than Cupid there IS no other site on the net that will match my site for a genuine chance to meet a Eastern European women without being bombarded by fakes and scammers. That is fact! I will bring the site to perfection over the next 12 months, not just for the Russian/ukrainian side of things but becouse I am developing a global network of niche dating sites.

[Ukraine Brides Agency]

Hi Stefan
I also have a genuine site www.ukrainebridesagency.com and I have spent a few years building the site and sorting the real from the scam.
The problem with these forums is that if you try to say something positive, you are knocked over by writers who are full of negativity.
Yes, the Russian and Eastern dating business has been full of scam for years - but someone has to make a stand and offer the genuine business.
Sure, scammers still manage to join but it is what you do about them that matters. They soon become bery apparent and I deactivate them, publicly list them on my site as scammers and refund all men who communicated with her.
We have made it so difficult for scammers to join our site that we are proud to say we offer a genuine option.
I dont give away gold memberships to men who join - it costs nothing to join and there are no monthly fees or subscriptions. Everyone gets a gold membership!
I wish you luck with this forum - it is a constant battle against guys that have never used your site and like nothing better than to criticise you.

[steveboy]

Hi Stefan
I also have a genuine site www.ukrainebridesagency.com and I have spent a few years building the site and sorting the real from the scam.
The problem with these forums is that if you try to say something positive, you are knocked over by writers who are full of negativity.
Yes, the Russian and Eastern dating business has been full of scam for years - but someone has to make a stand and offer the genuine business.
Sure, scammers still manage to join but it is what you do about them that matters. They soon become bery apparent and I deactivate them, publicly list them on my site as scammers and refund all men who communicated with her.
We have made it so difficult for scammers to join our site that we are proud to say we offer a genuine option.
I dont give away gold memberships to men who join - it costs nothing to join and there are no monthly fees or subscriptions. Everyone gets a gold membership!
I wish you luck with this forum - it is a constant battle against guys that have never used your site and like nothing better than to criticise you.

I dont care how much people criticise me, I do not need any business from the forum Im just here to pick arguments and generally be a pain in the ass Can I ask you a simple question? I looked at your site and took a look at the "Online" women, I noticed you have NO normal online women? I mean fat, ugly, over 40, dwarfs ect ext? Do you have strict face control on the women who sign up to the site?

[Ukraine Brides Agency]

Hi Stefan'
We have no restrictions on what a woman looks like. If you care to do a search you will find a range from 19 to over 60
Naturally very few men write to the ladies that are not so beautiful - which is a shame. I have found that the best relationships on our site have been formed with ladies who are over 35 and have children.
These women usually settle on corresponding with only 1 man and dont have the need to be on line and searching.
As soon as a lady logs onto the site, even to answer correspondence, she is seen as on line
When she is chatting she is off line
Most ladies that are in serious communication will arrange chats by agreed times so will not sit on line - there is no need

[lbkguy12]

just keep going dont let people get you down. Let time tell the truth good luck to you.

[Ukraine Brides Agency]

Thank you for the nice response

Of course we will keep going and we will continue to offer a genuine service and continue to improve - the industry needs it

Nice to know there are some positive people out there!

[Patagonie]

I dont care how much people criticise me, I do not need any business from the forum Im just here to pick arguments and generally be a pain in the ass Can I ask you a simple question? I looked at your site and took a look at the "Online" women, I noticed you have NO normal online women? I mean fat, ugly, over 40, dwarfs ect ext? Do you have strict face control on the women who sign up to the site?

Hi Steve
More than critisising, i highlighted the point which can make you more different than the usual crap sites.
I think you have a card to play and you desserve it.
As you have said it is a long an huge task to create and improve a site. Anyway the best is that you have a large audience, that is great.
Personnaly my search is over but your site is exactly what i would have searched before.

[steveboy]

I know what you mean:) Actually I have a new slightly updated home page coming shortly, and as I said the site was first based on rbrides but I have moved away from that style, all takes time. My main objective is lots of real girls with no scammers. As for guys some guys win some loose all comes down to how committed you are to your search every day I see guys sign up expect to find their women within a few days, it doesn't happen so they give up on the whole process.