Investing $50K in you or a dream RW?

[steveboy]

I would say that if you are in the US it would be a minimum of $2,000.  It cost me around $1,500 for me to go to St. Pete, $650 for the airfare, $240 for the visa, I stayed in a hostel for 8 nights at $23 a night (including breakfast, and it was very clean).  The biggest expense was eating out (the restaurants in St. Pete weren't cheap) and sightseeing.  Now my situation is a little different, Alina has a daughter so to bring her here will cost double, but for one one way ticket, they can be bought for less than $500.  Granted I'm not factoring in the cost of any travel or fiancee visas, or any costs that would incur after she'd get here such as health insurance, food, etc....  But if things would work out between you and your lady, and she stays and you marry and she gets a job, those costs go away eventually.  Unless you are a high roller, or someone trying to impress a girl who is far out of your league, it shouldn't cost anywhere near $50K!

Fair play to you

[Faux Pas]

Were in the 21st Century now. Lots of young guys who are serous about a Russian women don't have $5000 to do a trip to Russia for a week, let alone 2/3 trips over a year or two.
So many guys want to take a trip to Russia maybe to check things out first, so why stay at a 5 star hotel and eat at expensive restaurants, and put on some big show,just doing that alone will soon eat all your cash up. Isn't it better to do a few more trips on a budget and at the same time meet a few more women? I mean you cannot guarantee the first women you meet on any trip will be the one? So just a waste of good money and a big disappointment)

You don't need to flash your cash about today to meet a good women.

Actually it cost me about $750.00 in total to meet my other half:)

Lots of guys think about doing the Russian thing but worry about the cost, "just saying"

Nobody has advocated spending like a drunken sailor on shore leave. But, even for you Brits with your choking economy, a trip to St Pete or Moscow, you can't make a 5-7 day trip even staying at Hostels for less than a $1000 bucks. You're attempting to blow smoke up a lot of ass with that one and you know it. If you plan on traveling further than either of those cities the cost is even more.

For what many of the guys come looking for here is, good logistical information, how to, how much, where at type information and you are lying through your teeth. One can only imagine for attention. If what you claim is true. Why don't you find these actual $150 flights, 3 star hotels, airport transfers $10 dollar meals etc.. That would be a lot more realistic than this BS you are claiming.

$50K is IMHO, a lot of money to spend on dating and finding a wife anywhere but, a lot of men have done it and spent even much more. I have easily spent that not just on dating and marrying a RW but, extra expenses as a result of having a Russian wife. Yes, the expenses are real and they carry much farther than just "I do" at the altar.

So, like ML, I call bullshit on your claim 

[steveboy]

Russian visa $90.00 from the consulate.

Easyjet.com

London Gatwick depart friday 8th November to Moscow. $87.00

Domodevo Moscow Shuttle to Metro $15.00

Metro to Izmailovo Hotel $1.00

http://www.izmailovo.ru/eng/reservation/online/?hotel_id=595

5 nights at Gamma delta 4 star hotel $387.00

Alternatively 5 nights at HomeHostel ( A very nice new hostel ) $120.00

5 nights cash to take one or several nice ladies out $350.00 ( Of course there are plenty of nice women in Moscow willing to go dutch)
You don't have to try to impress any women today.

Moscow London return flight $76.00

Metro to shuttle station $1.00
Shuttle to Airport $15.00

Back in Old Blighty again for either $750ish or $1100.00

Its not my fault the US is so far from Europe!! Or want dine out in some expensive joint to look flash

Latvia, Ukraine, Estonia and Lithuania for a little less.

[steveboy]

Aaaaaaa better still find yourself a nice women who will put you up during your stay, thats even a better deal. I have done this many times and you usually get a nice cooked breakfast in the morning

[GQBlues]

...Its not my fault the US is so far from Europe!! Or want dine out in some expensive joint to look flash ...

steveboy-

As a service provider, you, of all people, have a higher obligation to the readers to be as objective with your posting than anyone. The first thing you need to make sure is determine where the OP is located from. Every single individual in these experience are as subjective as the places they're coming from. Thus each individual will differ in each of their circumstances. You just displayed your serious lack for attention to details. Besides, not everyone aspire to be a one week wonder like you.

To advance a silly notion that experiences will be anywhere near your silly '$1,000.00' only makes you look even more clueless.

Had I been a prospective candidate searching for a service provider at this time, I'd make certain I stay the hell away from anyone making these types of statement like you have in this thread.

[steveboy]

Im clueless!!! I don't think so!! " A one week wonder" ? If you say so! Actually ten years to be precise.

Im just pointing out a fact about all the bullshit costs involved to meet any FSU. You do not need a pile of money to find a beautiful Russian women as you can see by my other half. And I know plenty of others who have done exactly the same.

Just saying:)

[steveboy]

".Its not my fault the US is so far from Europe!!  Or want dine out in some expensive joint to look flash  ."

Dont take everything so serous

[lordtiberius]

Steveboy, you are so full of it and are seriously misleading those who are trying to get started.

I am not saying the $50,000 is needed; but anyone who has made a trip from USA for 1-3 weeks knows that this is going to cost $3-5,000 + for that trip alone.  Several of those trips, then the costs of getting the gal here, etc.

OK, so you are on or near the continent.  Cut the $1,000 plane trip down to your $200 or so.  Still; it ain't going to happen for $1,000 total.

You are spending too much

[Shadow]

".Its not my fault the US is so far from Europe!!  Or want dine out in some expensive joint to look flash  ."

Dont take everything so serous

While I agree you have to take in to account that the US is a 'big market'.
As you may notice for the Europeans I advise to make it a long weekend. Just 2 or 3 nights can be more than enough to get the basis of a relationship. A more extended trip would of course have to follow.
However for most American this is impossible due to travel times, for them a trip of 2-3 weeks seems more rational, with a solid backup in case of the first meeting turning south.

[Fishingguy]

it cost me $4.50 for a passion iced tea at Starbucks to get my last gf. Breakfast was included too. 

[mendeleyev]

Moscow has plenty of reasonable hotels to stay at, you can find one in this complex for less than $100 sometimes and its just 3 stops on the Metro from Red Square.

Steve, I'll agree that there are reasonable hotels for less than $100 nightly, some very decent and I've put folks up at that complex. I like the Hotel Vega (a Best Western flag) best. In past years I've done my visa registrations there by paying $35-50 for one night in a "Russian standard" room in order to get the registration filed. At that price you reserve the one night to get the registration, it takes about 10 minutes, and then go stay in an apartment you've rented.

However, it isn't just 3 Metro stops from Red Square: it is 5 or 6 depending on which station you use to exit the Metro. Starting at Metro station Partizanskaya where the hotels are located, one would be on the blue ARBATSKO-POKROVSKAYA line.

Now if you'll go this interactive Metro map link and click on on Partizanskaya and then click on Revolution Square station which is the easiest: total time is 13 minutes, 5 stops after boarding Partizanskaya.

Metro station Revolution Square is one of the most unique stations and a "must see" when in Moscow.

[jmana]

Now if you really want to meet a Russian girl on the cheap, have her come to you!  I actually had a girl from Moscow come visit me for a few weeks several years ago (she paid for everything), but by the time those few weeks were up I was ready to have her return home    She was really nice, she'd give me massages every night and seemed like she would make a "good wife", but there was just something about her that was off putting.  I still feel bad to this day about it.  She had planned a second trip to come see me and I had to flat out tell her no.  Supposedly she's married and has a kid now and still living in Moscow, so it's all good.  When I was in St. Pete she wrote to me and asked how long I was going to be at the Moscow airport and I was tempted to try and meet up with her, but like I said I still feel a little guilt about it because I know she really liked me and wanted much more than I did. 

[steveboy]

Steve, I'll agree that there are reasonable hotels for less than $100 nightly, some very decent and I've put folks up at that complex. I like the Hotel Vega (a Best Western flag) best. In past years I've done my visa registrations there by paying $35-50 for one night in a "Russian standard" room in order to get the registration filed. At that price you reserve the one night to get the registration, it takes about 10 minutes, and then go stay in an apartment you've rented.

However, it isn't just 3 Metro stops from Red Square: it is 5 or 6 depending on which station you use to exit the Metro. Starting at Metro station Partizanskaya where the hotels are located, one would be on the blue ARBATSKO-POKROVSKAYA line.

Now if you'll go this interactive Metro map link and click on on Partizanskaya and then click on Revolution Square station which is the easiest: total time is 13 minutes, 5 stops after boarding Partizanskaya.

Metro station Revolution Square is one of the most unique stations and a "must see" when in Moscow.

Revolution Square is pretty well well Red Square:) But you do not need to go to any hotel to make registration?, you pop into one of the side street places that handle that for a min 300 Rb . I did the same for a friend only a few months back.

[steveboy]

Now if you really want to meet a Russian girl on the cheap, have her come to you!  I actually had a girl from Moscow come visit me for a few weeks several years ago (she paid for everything), but by the time those few weeks were up I was ready to have her return home    She was really nice, she'd give me massages every night and seemed like she would make a "good wife", but there was just something about her that was off putting.  I still feel bad to this day about it.  She had planned a second trip to come see me and I had to flat out tell her no.  Supposedly she's married and has a kid now and still living in Moscow, so it's all good.  When I was in St. Pete she wrote to me and asked how long I was going to be at the Moscow airport and I was tempted to try and meet up with her, but like I said I still feel a little guilt about it because I know she really liked me and wanted much more than I did.

I have done that as well And a girl from Finland semi Russian:)

[lordtiberius]

Now if you really want to meet a Russian girl on the cheap, have her come to you!  I actually had a girl from Moscow come visit me for a few weeks several years ago (she paid for everything), but by the time those few weeks were up I was ready to have her return home    She was really nice, she'd give me massages every night and seemed like she would make a "good wife", but there was just something about her that was off putting.  I still feel bad to this day about it.  She had planned a second trip to come see me and I had to flat out tell her no.  Supposedly she's married and has a kid now and still living in Moscow, so it's all good.  When I was in St. Pete she wrote to me and asked how long I was going to be at the Moscow airport and I was tempted to try and meet up with her, but like I said I still feel a little guilt about it because I know she really liked me and wanted much more than I did.

there's a bunch of Slava-Americanas on fdating.  I talked to a few of them - kind a hot, but not what I was looking for.

You can do 2 weeks on less than $ 3K a trip.  You just have to be smart and stick to your budget

[mendeleyev]

I've not helped anyone with registration for awhile but didn't know that there were places along the street to register other than the post office.

Okay, did a little checking and here is a state approved list of police "approved" locations for registration in the city of Moscow: http://www.visahouse.com/moscow-militia-departments.asp

And post office locations: http://www.visahouse.com/moscow-post.asp

[Noch1]

So you can do a 4-5 day trip for 1000k, Presuming your nuts and
ask her to marry you, and she is crazy and says yes.
there will be much more to do and spend.
Small wedding?, another trip to marry?
Visa costs? flight and insurance for her to come to your country.
Guess you don't need to pay for insurance, anything happens pretend you don't know her
Cost of a few english lesson?
Classes to upgrade education?
or do you plan having her clean houses to make you money
And not cost you anything?
All that is still more than orignal less than a 1000 you quoted.
Sorry I agree your nuts, can't be done.

Yes we really should be spinning this to newcomers

[CanadaMan]

Steve, I'll agree that there are reasonable hotels for less than $100 nightly, some very decent and I've put folks up at that complex. I like the Hotel Vega (a Best Western flag) best. In past years I've done my visa registrations there by paying $35-50 for one night in a "Russian standard" room in order to get the registration filed. At that price you reserve the one night to get the registration,

Mendy I just checked the site you mentioned and can't find any room for under $100.  When was the last time you stayed there?
Maybe those who come to the front desk speaking Russian get better rates?

[mendeleyev]

I ask for a "Russian Standard" room which is not available on the internet apparently. It is a room not remodeled to Western standards but in which everything works fine. If you called, I'm banking on it being available, outside of Olympics, even in English.

Online, I can stay tonight for $67 plus tax at the Vladykino which is an apartment style hotel with efficiency kitchens in each room. Not a Hilton by any stretch but clean, 2.5-3 stars. http://www.vladykinohotel.ru/eng/main/

For that price rang, +/- $20, you can get a nicer apartment most times of the year at airbnb.com

[cc3]

Moscow has plenty of reasonable hotels to stay at, you can find one in this complex for less than $100 sometimes and its just 3 stops on the Metro from Red Square.
If your going on a budget there are plenty of Hostels for $30.00 a night and pretty clean ones at that Do you need to tell any women your staying at a hostel around the corner?



http://www.izmailovo.ru/eng/

Very, very few experienced members of this forum stay in hotels.

[cc3]

I agree, I used them but sometimes it is a pain in the ass to get hold of the owners of these places as I remember the last time I tried them was for a place in Ukraine. That probably explains it!

Your inherent Ukraino-phobia is becoming tiresome and indigestible. I, not so respectfully, suggest you tone it waaaaayyyyy down.
 

[cc3]

I have done that as well And a girl from Finland semi Russian:)

Don't ever call a Finn a "semi-Russian" to his/her face. You're liable to suffer serious physical damage. (Finns are very adept at doing away with Russians).

[steveboy]

So you can do a 4-5 day trip for 1000k, Presuming your nuts and
ask her to marry you, and she is crazy and says yes.
there will be much more to do and spend.
Small wedding?, another trip to marry?
Visa costs? flight and insurance for her to come to your country.
Guess you don't need to pay for insurance, anything happens pretend you don't know her
Cost of a few english lesson?
Classes to upgrade education?
or do you plan having her clean houses to make you money
And not cost you anything?
All that is still more than orignal less than a 1000 you quoted.
Sorry I agree your nuts, can't be done.

Yes we really should be spinning this to newcomers

I was pointing out the fact that it is possible to do a trip to Russia for under $1000 , not the cost of a marriage and bringing the women to your own country. In which case it makes it easier to do several trips, giving you more chance to meet more women
As for English lessons ?? Not everyone is interested in dating a women who speaks no English and adding even more costs to the whole process.

[Ade]

I was pointing out the fact that it is possible to do a trip to Russia for under $1000 , not the cost of a marriage and bringing the women to your own country. In which case it makes it easier to do several trips, giving you more chance to meet more women
As for English lessons ?? Not everyone is interested in dating a women who speaks no English and adding even more costs to the whole process.

 


The original post was about "investing $50K in a dream RW" - and the inference was the cost from start to finish, not a quick trip to Moscow from the UK on the cheap.


Your $1000 wouldn't put a scratch in a dent of the total cost of the process from start to finish - and by "finish" I mean, your wife is established in your country with no further costs associated to immigration.


You're just writing nonsense and making yourself look silly.

[steveboy]

One of my best friends did a "Quick trip on the cheap to Moscow" just once , met a girl he had been speaking to for several months ( She was from Samara and made her own way to Moscow where she booked and paid for the hotel for a week)
Two months later she came over to the Uk with two kids and married there and then I think it cost him about a couple of thousand dollars start to finish!
maybe I should ask him to write his story here:)

As for myself start to finish less than a few thousand dollars. No 5 star hotels, no big wedding, no Michellin star restaurants, just a normal guy marring a normal girl:)
Of course if your going to come to Russia stay at a five star hotel eat out at the best restaurants , spend as much money as possible to try to buy your love, then thats your prerogative. I guess after a few years $50,000 is about correct.

As I said if you are committed to finding your Russian dream women, you do not actually need to spend a fortune:)